Sabbaths ...

[Scott Husted]

The sabbath's are a/one picture of the progression of the truth found in our relationship with our Father ...the first is where the last one of the Land defines ...

 

[Noxot]

I guess from our perspective Christ is the second Adam and yet from God's perspective Christ is the first Adam. The Trinity was before the creation was. Which is a good thing as God serves as the eternal stabilizing foundation for all permanent being.

Some thinkers make a distinction between some kind of transcendent potentiality and actualized reality or maybe discursive reality. Being as we know it is a small part of that Supreme Being. So things like space and time may not be very good for trying to understand what is greater than those.

 

[Noxot]

God moves in himself and he finds rest in himself. God is the resolution of God. All permanent being must be incorporated into God, as there is no salvation without him. Still what is so important about us transient beings is we are very vulnerable and need that permanent one. That permanent one has a need to save and to love, to be born through us just as we must be born in him. God and the world fullfil each other, according to Whitehead. I see creation as something bleeding fourth from the sons heart, being born from that Divine love that the Trinity is. all things were made from nothing and this nothing could be nothing but an expression of that which was before creation was since God creates all out of his own self. or we could say that this nothing is like in the Jewish Kabbalah where god Empties himself in order to create. So in the son there is both The Emptiness and fullness of God. therefore I believe it is important to recognize the son's Humanity as something Universal and Cosmic and before this fleshly Humanity.

As I read the other day - God Wills both God and man. It makes sense otherwise why would the Son of God be fully God and fully human? But too many try to make the son of God's Humanity into some kind of minor part of him that he just recently became. This is just one way that humans try to alienate themselves from God. They try to rid Jesus Christ of his Humanity. But that would alienate us from God.

 

[Scott Husted]

God moves in himself and he finds rest in himself. God is the resolution of God. All permanent being must be incorporated into God, as there is no salvation without him. Still what is so important about us transient beings is we are very vulnerable and need that permanent one. That permanent one has a need to save and to love, to be born through us just as we must be born in him. God and the world fullfil each other, according to Whitehead. I see creation as something bleeding fourth from the sons heart, being born from that Divine love that the Trinity is. all things were made from nothing and this nothing could be nothing but an expression of that which was before creation was since God creates all out of his own self. or we could say that this nothing is like in the Jewish Kabbalah where god Empties himself in order to create. So in the son there is both The Emptiness and fullness of God. therefore I believe it is important to recognize the son's Humanity as something Universal and Cosmic and before this fleshly Humanity.

As I read the other day - God Wills both God and man. It makes sense otherwise why would the Son of God be fully God and fully human? But too many try to make the son of God's Humanity into some kind of minor part of him that he just recently became. This is just one way that humans try to alienate themselves from God. They try to rid Jesus Christ of his Humanity. But that would alienate us from God.

I never read the kabbalah, but I have watched God empty himself to create ...

 

[Noxot]

I never read the kabbalah, but I have watched God empty himself to create ...

I haven't either really I just take a passing glance at many different things. There is even danger in perennialism. I have seen that tradition spirit reduce perennialism into less of the fullness that it should be, though everyone is what they is. my neurotic spider senses just tend to want to point out potential pitfalls. Many cannot seem to account for the idea of newness in God and yet discursive reality seems to afford him just that. Whitehead said that there is part of God that becomes, it makes perfect sense even according to my own experience. It was the Greeks who thought of Freedom as something not perfect. Much tradition in the west is based on the Greeks. Anyways that's why many people cannot conceive of a infinite universe.

I tend to want to agree with Jacob Boheme when he says that the universe is God's body and that he relates to it how we relate to our own body, which for him as a Mystic is somewhat of a not identifying with it very much. The universe may not be infinite but it is being born from that infinite.

 

[Scott Husted]

Rest is the great awakening, which the deep sleep is the anti of.

 

[GTW27]

Rest is the great awakening, which the deep sleep is the anti of.

Being weaned from the milk, is akin to Jesus healing the blind, from keeping the Sabbath, to entering His rest. "Whom will He teach knowledge, and to whom will He explain the message? Those whom are weaned from the milk, and taken from the breast?"