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<blockquote data-quote="Evangelion" data-source="post: 529151" data-attributes="member: 5511"><p>isshinwhat - </p><p></p><p>*snip*</p><p></p><p>You have shown me nothing which proves that Irenaeus understood the bishop of Rome to be the central authority of the Church.</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not so.</p><p></p><p>There are <strong>two different traditions</strong> here:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The tradition that Peter was "the first bishop of Rome."<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The primacy of the bishop of Rome.</li> </ul><p>The former refers to the myth that Peter was head of the Roman church. The latter refers to the myth that the bishop of Rome was the central authority of the Church. </p><p></p><p>Hence my previous citation, which (curiously enough) you did not even quote properly:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><br /> <em><strong><span style="color: red">In the late 2nd or early 3rd cent. the tradition identified Peter as the first bishop of Rome.</span></strong> This was a natural development once the monarchical episcopate, i.e., government of the local church by a single bishop as distinct from a group of presbyter-bishops, finally emerged in Rome in the mid-2nd cent.</em><br /> <br /> <strong>Kelly, J. N. D. (1986), <u>The Oxford Dictionary of Popes</u>.</strong></li> </ul><p>You have confused the "Peter was the first bishop of Rome" tradition with the "primacy of the Roman bishop" tradition. They are, in fact, entirely separate and distinct from one another.</p><p></p><p>Your rebuttal, therefore, consists of nothing more than a fallacy of equivocation. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite6" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":cool:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Evangelion, post: 529151, member: 5511"] isshinwhat - *snip* You have shown me nothing which proves that Irenaeus understood the bishop of Rome to be the central authority of the Church. Meanwhile... Not so. There are [b]two different traditions[/b] here: [list] [*]The tradition that Peter was "the first bishop of Rome." [*]The primacy of the bishop of Rome. [/list] The former refers to the myth that Peter was head of the Roman church. The latter refers to the myth that the bishop of Rome was the central authority of the Church. Hence my previous citation, which (curiously enough) you did not even quote properly: [list] [i][b][color=red]In the late 2nd or early 3rd cent. the tradition identified Peter as the first bishop of Rome.[/color][/b][color=red][/color] This was a natural development once the monarchical episcopate, i.e., government of the local church by a single bishop as distinct from a group of presbyter-bishops, finally emerged in Rome in the mid-2nd cent.[/i] [b]Kelly, J. N. D. (1986), [u]The Oxford Dictionary of Popes[/u].[/b] [/list] You have confused the "Peter was the first bishop of Rome" tradition with the "primacy of the Roman bishop" tradition. They are, in fact, entirely separate and distinct from one another. Your rebuttal, therefore, consists of nothing more than a fallacy of equivocation. :cool: [/QUOTE]
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