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Continued from: Romans Chapter 7
Romans 8 (CLV)
1 Nothing, consequently, is now condemnation to those in Christ Jesus. Not according to flesh are they walking, but according to spirit, 2 for the spirit's law of life in Christ Jesus frees you from the law of sin and death.
Notice the word consequently. This passage is a conclusion, predicated on the scripture that we have read thus far.
I hadn't noticed it, until I started dissecting this book for understanding; but Paul has a very interesting way of making his points. Up until now he has, for the most part, been defining his point. He lays out the definitions, without laying out the terms first. It has taken him seven preceding chapters, to bring us to the terms of his point.
Paul has revealed two more laws in this chapter.
There are two laws here. Some see the word law, in this letter; and are indoctrinated to believe that it could mean only one thing; that the Torah is abolished. One can't even understand the writings of Paul without understanding the Torah. He said so himself in chapter seven.
Following one of these laws leads to life.
Following the other leads to death.
For those who misunderstand Paul in saying that were not under THE law; which of these two laws do you suppose is according to YHWH's will?
You will choose one. That is the only choice you have. We are either under one law or another. We are all under A law.
Which of these two laws would you suppose is in line with obedience to YHWH's law (Torah) which Yahshua followed; as he told us to follow his example?
3 For what was impossible to the law, in which it was infirm through the flesh, did God, sending His own Son in the likeness of sin's flesh and concerning sin, He condemns sin in the flesh,
The Law of Sin and Death
4 that the just requirement of the law may be fulfilled in us, who are not walking in accord with flesh, but in accord with spirit."
The Law of Faith
The Law of God (Torah)
The Spirit's Law of Life
5 For those who are in accord with flesh are disposed to that which is of the flesh,
The Law of Sin and Death
yet those who are in accord with spirit to that which is of the spirit."
The Law of Faith
The Law of God (Torah)
The Spirit's Law of Life
6 For the disposition of the flesh is death,
The Law of Sin and Death
yet the disposition of the spirit is life and peace,
The Law of Faith
The Law of God (Torah)
The Spirit's Law of Life
7 because the disposition of the flesh is enmity to God, for it is not subject to the law of God, for neither is it able." 8 Now those who are in flesh are not able to please God.
The Law of Sin and Death
If you are in the flesh; you are hostile to YHWH. If you are in the flesh; you will not obey his Torah; nor are you able. The Ruach Ha'Kodesh leads us out of the flesh, through circumcision of the heart.
9 Yet you are not in flesh, but in spirit, if so be that God's spirit is making its home in you.
The Law of Faith
The Law of God (Torah)
The Spirit's Law of Life
Now if anyone has not Christ's spirit, this one is not His."
The Law of Sin and Death
10 Now if Christ is in you, the body, indeed, is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is life because of righteousness."
What is Righteousness?
Definition of righteous
1 : acting in accord with divine or moral law
Definition of RIGHTEOUS
The Law of Faith
The Law of God (Torah)
The Spirit's Law of Life
11 Now if the spirit of Him Who rouses Jesus from among the dead is making its home in you, He Who rouses Christ Jesus from among the dead will also be vivifying your mortal bodies because of His spirit making its home in you."
The Law of Faith
The Law of God (Torah)
The Spirit's Law of Life
12 Consequently, then, brethren, debtors are we, not to the flesh, to be living in accord with flesh, 13 for if you are living in accord with flesh, you are about to be dying.
The Law of Sin and Death
Yet if, in spirit, you are putting the practices of the body to death, you will be living." 14 For whoever are being led by God's spirit, these are sons of God." 15 For you did not get slavery's spirit to fear again, but you got the spirit of sonship, in which we are crying, "Abba, Father!" 16 The spirit itself is testifying together with our spirit that we are children of God. 17 Yet if children, enjoyers also of an allotment, enjoyers, indeed, of an allotment from God, yet joint enjoyers of Christ's allotment, if so be that we are suffering together, that we should be glorified together also." 18 For I am reckoning that the sufferings of the current era do not deserve the glory about to be revealed for us. 19 For the premonition of the creation is awaiting the unveiling of the sons of God.
The Law of Faith
The Law of God (Torah)
The Spirit's Law of Life
20 For to vanity was the creation subjected, not voluntarily, but because of Him Who subjects it, in expectation"
The Law of Sin and Death
21 that the creation itself, also, shall be freed from the slavery of corruption into the glorious freedom of the children of God." 22 For we are aware that the entire creation is groaning and travailing together until now. 23 Yet not only so, but we ourselves also, who have the firstfruit of the spirit, we ourselves also, are groaning in ourselves, awaiting the sonship, the deliverance of our body." 24 For to expectation were we saved. Now expectation, being observed, is not expectation, for what anyone is observing, why is he expecting it also? 25 Now, if we are expecting what we are not observing, we are awaiting it with endurance." 26 Now, similarly, the spirit also is aiding our infirmity, for what we should be praying for, to accord with what must be, we are not aware, but the spirit itself is pleading for us with inarticulate groanings." 27 Now He Who is searching the hearts is aware what is the disposition of the spirit, for in accord with God is it pleading for the saints." 28 Now we are aware that God is working all together for the good of those who are loving God, who are called according to the purpose" 29 that, whom He foreknew, He designates beforehand, also, to be conformed to the image of His Son, for Him to be Firstborn among many brethren." 30 Now whom He designates beforehand, these He calls also, and whom He calls, these He justifies also; now whom He justifies, these He glorifies also." 31 What then, shall we declare to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? 32 Surely, He Who spares not His own Son, but gives Him up for us all, how shall He not, together with Him, also, be graciously granting us all? 33 Who will be indicting God's chosen ones? God, the Justifier? 34 Who is the Condemner? Christ Jesus, the One dying, yet rather being roused, Who is also at God's right hand, Who is pleading also for our sakes? 35 What shall be separating us from the love of God in Christ Jesus? Affliction, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or danger, or sword? 36 According as it is written that "On Thy account we are being put to death the whole day, We are reckoned as sheep for slaughter." 37 Nay! in all these we are more than conquering through Him Who loves us. 38 For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor messengers, nor sovereignties, nor the present, nor what is impending, nor powers, 39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus, our Lord."
The Law of Faith
The Law of God (Torah)
The Spirit's Law of Life
Hallelu YAH!
Legal Terms:
The Law of Faith (Ch 3)
A Different Law (Ch 7)
The Law of My Mind (Ch 7)
The Law of Sin (Sin's Law) (Ch 7)
God's Law (Ch 7)
The Spirit's Law of Life (Ch 8)
The Law of Sin and Death (Ch 8)
Roman Chapter 9
Romans 8 (CLV)
1 Nothing, consequently, is now condemnation to those in Christ Jesus. Not according to flesh are they walking, but according to spirit, 2 for the spirit's law of life in Christ Jesus frees you from the law of sin and death.
Notice the word consequently. This passage is a conclusion, predicated on the scripture that we have read thus far.
I hadn't noticed it, until I started dissecting this book for understanding; but Paul has a very interesting way of making his points. Up until now he has, for the most part, been defining his point. He lays out the definitions, without laying out the terms first. It has taken him seven preceding chapters, to bring us to the terms of his point.
Paul has revealed two more laws in this chapter.
There are two laws here. Some see the word law, in this letter; and are indoctrinated to believe that it could mean only one thing; that the Torah is abolished. One can't even understand the writings of Paul without understanding the Torah. He said so himself in chapter seven.
Following one of these laws leads to life.
Following the other leads to death.
For those who misunderstand Paul in saying that were not under THE law; which of these two laws do you suppose is according to YHWH's will?
You will choose one. That is the only choice you have. We are either under one law or another. We are all under A law.
Which of these two laws would you suppose is in line with obedience to YHWH's law (Torah) which Yahshua followed; as he told us to follow his example?
3 For what was impossible to the law, in which it was infirm through the flesh, did God, sending His own Son in the likeness of sin's flesh and concerning sin, He condemns sin in the flesh,
The Law of Sin and Death
4 that the just requirement of the law may be fulfilled in us, who are not walking in accord with flesh, but in accord with spirit."
The Law of Faith
The Law of God (Torah)
The Spirit's Law of Life
5 For those who are in accord with flesh are disposed to that which is of the flesh,
The Law of Sin and Death
yet those who are in accord with spirit to that which is of the spirit."
The Law of Faith
The Law of God (Torah)
The Spirit's Law of Life
6 For the disposition of the flesh is death,
The Law of Sin and Death
yet the disposition of the spirit is life and peace,
The Law of Faith
The Law of God (Torah)
The Spirit's Law of Life
7 because the disposition of the flesh is enmity to God, for it is not subject to the law of God, for neither is it able." 8 Now those who are in flesh are not able to please God.
The Law of Sin and Death
If you are in the flesh; you are hostile to YHWH. If you are in the flesh; you will not obey his Torah; nor are you able. The Ruach Ha'Kodesh leads us out of the flesh, through circumcision of the heart.
9 Yet you are not in flesh, but in spirit, if so be that God's spirit is making its home in you.
The Law of Faith
The Law of God (Torah)
The Spirit's Law of Life
Now if anyone has not Christ's spirit, this one is not His."
The Law of Sin and Death
10 Now if Christ is in you, the body, indeed, is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is life because of righteousness."
What is Righteousness?
Definition of righteous
1 : acting in accord with divine or moral law
Definition of RIGHTEOUS
The Law of Faith
The Law of God (Torah)
The Spirit's Law of Life
11 Now if the spirit of Him Who rouses Jesus from among the dead is making its home in you, He Who rouses Christ Jesus from among the dead will also be vivifying your mortal bodies because of His spirit making its home in you."
The Law of Faith
The Law of God (Torah)
The Spirit's Law of Life
12 Consequently, then, brethren, debtors are we, not to the flesh, to be living in accord with flesh, 13 for if you are living in accord with flesh, you are about to be dying.
The Law of Sin and Death
Yet if, in spirit, you are putting the practices of the body to death, you will be living." 14 For whoever are being led by God's spirit, these are sons of God." 15 For you did not get slavery's spirit to fear again, but you got the spirit of sonship, in which we are crying, "Abba, Father!" 16 The spirit itself is testifying together with our spirit that we are children of God. 17 Yet if children, enjoyers also of an allotment, enjoyers, indeed, of an allotment from God, yet joint enjoyers of Christ's allotment, if so be that we are suffering together, that we should be glorified together also." 18 For I am reckoning that the sufferings of the current era do not deserve the glory about to be revealed for us. 19 For the premonition of the creation is awaiting the unveiling of the sons of God.
The Law of Faith
The Law of God (Torah)
The Spirit's Law of Life
20 For to vanity was the creation subjected, not voluntarily, but because of Him Who subjects it, in expectation"
The Law of Sin and Death
21 that the creation itself, also, shall be freed from the slavery of corruption into the glorious freedom of the children of God." 22 For we are aware that the entire creation is groaning and travailing together until now. 23 Yet not only so, but we ourselves also, who have the firstfruit of the spirit, we ourselves also, are groaning in ourselves, awaiting the sonship, the deliverance of our body." 24 For to expectation were we saved. Now expectation, being observed, is not expectation, for what anyone is observing, why is he expecting it also? 25 Now, if we are expecting what we are not observing, we are awaiting it with endurance." 26 Now, similarly, the spirit also is aiding our infirmity, for what we should be praying for, to accord with what must be, we are not aware, but the spirit itself is pleading for us with inarticulate groanings." 27 Now He Who is searching the hearts is aware what is the disposition of the spirit, for in accord with God is it pleading for the saints." 28 Now we are aware that God is working all together for the good of those who are loving God, who are called according to the purpose" 29 that, whom He foreknew, He designates beforehand, also, to be conformed to the image of His Son, for Him to be Firstborn among many brethren." 30 Now whom He designates beforehand, these He calls also, and whom He calls, these He justifies also; now whom He justifies, these He glorifies also." 31 What then, shall we declare to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? 32 Surely, He Who spares not His own Son, but gives Him up for us all, how shall He not, together with Him, also, be graciously granting us all? 33 Who will be indicting God's chosen ones? God, the Justifier? 34 Who is the Condemner? Christ Jesus, the One dying, yet rather being roused, Who is also at God's right hand, Who is pleading also for our sakes? 35 What shall be separating us from the love of God in Christ Jesus? Affliction, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or danger, or sword? 36 According as it is written that "On Thy account we are being put to death the whole day, We are reckoned as sheep for slaughter." 37 Nay! in all these we are more than conquering through Him Who loves us. 38 For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor messengers, nor sovereignties, nor the present, nor what is impending, nor powers, 39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus, our Lord."
The Law of Faith
The Law of God (Torah)
The Spirit's Law of Life
Hallelu YAH!
Legal Terms:
The Law of Faith (Ch 3)
A Different Law (Ch 7)
The Law of My Mind (Ch 7)
The Law of Sin (Sin's Law) (Ch 7)
God's Law (Ch 7)
The Spirit's Law of Life (Ch 8)
The Law of Sin and Death (Ch 8)
Roman Chapter 9
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