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JoshuaCh1v9 · Nov 5, 2006

sawitch said:
Respect is not earned just because a person is an officer. There are many lay people who have earned my respect over the years.

Strangely enough it seems that the officers who insist upon being called by their rank are those who least deserve respect.

If the SA is to survive in the 21st C we must accept that some things need to change. We shouldn't shift on doctrinal issues but need to be more flexible about fringe issues such as rank and uniform. Maybe the army's decline is due to it's inflexibility and refusal to adapt to a changing culture?

When I asked the question though, i didn't use the word respect. I agree with everybody Respect, be it for officer, local officer, soldier or adherent, is something to be earned.

The word I used was 'right'

Having trained and been commissioned as an officer I believe they then have the right to be called by their rank.

My new CO is a young guy fresh from training, who I can give 20 years to (almost).

But he remains my CO, and as such I will call him Captain.

If we met socially, away from Army, then I would feel able to call him Jonathon, but not otherwise.

sreno7 · Nov 8, 2006

I am Susan, went to the army for years, left then two years ago my kids started to go, my son became a soldier and my daughter an adherent. I found myself going to their church more than my own this year.

Abiel · Nov 8, 2006

JoshuaCh1v9 said:
When I asked the question though, i didn't use the word respect. I agree with everybody Respect, be it for officer, local officer, soldier or adherent, is something to be earned.

The word I used was 'right'

Having trained and been commissioned as an officer I believe they then have the right to be called by their rank.

My new CO is a young guy fresh from training, who I can give 20 years to (almost).

But he remains my CO, and as such I will call him Captain.

If we met socially, away from Army, then I would feel able to call him Jonathon, but not otherwise.

not Jonathon Cook by any chance???

JoshuaCh1v9 · Nov 8, 2006

Abiel said:
not Jonathon Cook by any chance???

Indeed

You know him?

JoshuaCh1v9 · Nov 8, 2006

sreno7 said:
I am Susan, went to the army for years, left then two years ago my kids started to go, my son became a soldier and my daughter an adherent. I found myself going to their church more than my own this year.

It's in your blood I guess

Once in, never out

TheDag · Nov 9, 2006

JoshuaCh1v9 said:
When I asked the question though, i didn't use the word respect. I agree with everybody Respect, be it for officer, local officer, soldier or adherent, is something to be earned.

The word I used was 'right'

Having trained and been commissioned as an officer I believe they then have the right to be called by their rank.

The only problem I have with this is that I don't believe we should enforce our rights in every situation. I can assure you that if i was an officer then I would want you to call me by my first name not captain. Have you ever considered some might actually prefer to be called by their name? It is fine to stand up for other peoples rights but sometimes we need to ignore our own rights for God.

JoshuaCh1v9 · Nov 9, 2006

TheDag said:
The only problem I have with this is that I don't believe we should enforce our rights in every situation. I can assure you that if i was an officer then I would want you to call me by my first name not captain. Have you ever considered some might actually prefer to be called by their name? It is fine to stand up for other peoples rights but sometimes we need to ignore our own rights for God.

I think perhaps this further emphasises that there are big differences between the Army in Britain and the Army in Australia.

I'm not saying that is bad or anything, just that the differences exist

TheDag · Nov 10, 2006

Yeah that was partly my point although I am positive that there are officers in Oz who would want to be called by their rank rather than their first name. Of course it is also a generational difference as well.

JoshuaCh1v9 · Nov 10, 2006

TheDag said:
Yeah that was partly my point although I am positive that there are officers in Oz who would want to be called by their rank rather than their first name. Of course it is also a generational difference as well.

ROFL

Gee thanks

Make me feel old why don't you

salvationsoldier · Nov 10, 2006

Hello all, my name is Howard and I'm a member of the Army in Manchester UK. I used to belong to my Corps in the late 80's and early 90's. Then I left and eventually I married and moved to the U.S..I came back to the Corps last year after my marriage ended. It felt good to be back amongst old friends again, but unfortunately I seem to be not getting along with my officer at the moment. Thanks for reading and looking forward to chatting along the way.

Howard

Surviving · Nov 10, 2006

Hello Howard,

It's good to see another Notherner on the site! I live down near Heathrow, but my parents were officers in the Manchester division (now called the Central North Division), but they are over in Yorkshire now. What corps did you use to go to?

JoshuaCh1v9 · Nov 10, 2006

salvationsoldier said:
Hello all, my name is Howard and I'm a member of the Army in Manchester UK. I used to belong to my Corps in the late 80's and early 90's. Then I left and eventually I married and moved to the U.S..I came back to the Corps last year after my marriage ended. It felt good to be back amongst old friends again, but unfortunately I seem to be not getting along with my officer at the moment. Thanks for reading and looking forward to chatting along the way.

Howard

Hey Howard

Great to meet you

I'm just over the Pennines from you in Yorkshire, just outside Selby

Great to have you here with us on Cyber Corps.

Sorry to hear about your problems with your officer. Perhaps it wil sort itself out in time. if not, there are plenty of Corps in Manchester.

Abiel · Nov 10, 2006

JoshuaCh1v9 said:
Indeed

You know him?

Do I ever!!!!

Abiel · Nov 10, 2006

salvationsoldier said:
Hello all, my name is Howard and I'm a member of the Army in Manchester UK. I used to belong to my Corps in the late 80's and early 90's. Then I left and eventually I married and moved to the U.S..I came back to the Corps last year after my marriage ended. It felt good to be back amongst old friends again, but unfortunately I seem to be not getting along with my officer at the moment. Thanks for reading and looking forward to chatting along the way.

Howard

hi Howard! nice to meet you

Abiel · Nov 10, 2006

I have even more reason to come to Knottingly now!

salvationsoldier · Nov 10, 2006

Surviving said:
Hello Howard,

It's good to see another Notherner on the site! I live down near Heathrow, but my parents were officers in the Manchester division (now called the Central North Division), but they are over in Yorkshire now. What corps did you use to go to?

Abiel said:
hi Howard! nice to meet you

JoshuaCh1v9 said:
Hey Howard

Great to meet you

I'm just over the Pennines from you in Yorkshire, just outside Selby

Great to have you here with us on Cyber Corps.

Sorry to hear about your problems with your officer. Perhaps it wil sort itself out in time. if not, there are plenty of Corps in Manchester.

Hello to you all and thanks for the warm welcome. 'Surviving' I wonder if I know your parents ? What corps were they at ?

Looking forward to getting to know you all.

God Bless
Howard

TheDag · Nov 10, 2006

Hi Howard
welcome to cyber corps let me be the first one from down under to say hi!

TheDag · Nov 10, 2006

JoshuaCh1v9 said:
ROFL

Gee thanks

Make me feel old why don't you

If you felt old it's your own fault!!!!

I wasn't actually saying all people who prefer to us rank instead of name are old. Besides when I said that I was more thinking my grandmothers generation not to mention you don't know my age. I could be right behind you or a bit older.

See ya round old fella!

salvationsoldier · Nov 11, 2006

TheDag said:
Hi Howard
welcome to cyber corps let me be the first one from down under to say hi!

Hey thanks for the welcome from down under.....much appreciated !!! H

JoshuaCh1v9 · Nov 11, 2006

Abiel said:
Do I ever!!!!

Abiel said:
I have even more reason to come to Knottingly now!

So are you going to tell me then or do I get 3 guesses?

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