cjedick said:
"I am he, as you are he, as you are me, and "WE" are all together!"
I never said I liked Christian music...not once...nor have I ever praised one Christian Rock band or Christian Rock song. So your argument is just about useless. Along with your argument, Bono too is useless. So let's see if "we" can complain at someone else. What was the double standard again?
You don't have to praise them. What I was saying is that if the tabels were turned, and the groups were rallying for Bush, or rallying against, let's say Kerry or Gore or whoever in 2008, you wouldn't complain about them at all. You talk about these groups whining, but that's ALL you people have been doing this entire thread. Whining.
cjedick said:
I was simply expressing that I don't much like bands that "Rock Against Bush" or rock against anything for that matter. It's annoying and serves to accomplish nothing except (1) rally a bunch of mindless "music" fans in support of a cranky cause (which means they'll jump into each other for a few hours) or (2) inflate the egos of these musicians who think that their rocking is REALLY making a difference. Now I'm sure these two points make me sound like the bad guy. But I don't much care. Actually, there's probably a third motivation--(3) it serves to increase support in the direction you throw your political weight...which, perhaps, increases album sales and generates a bit of a profit.
I think music is a form of expression. And I reserve my right to maintain that I like some peoples' forms of expressions and dislike other peoples' forms of expressions. Quite frankly, I don't like your written expression. It is confrontational, and I hate when people make suggestions by using the word "we." It reminds me too much of grade school. So next time "we" use the word "we," perhaps "we'll" rewrite our sentence to display that "we" are simply politely suggesting. This way, "we" won't sound so condescending.
You can dislike whatever you want. You make it sound like I'm trying to force you to do something or not to do something. No, what I'm doing is calling you down for a blatant bias. I really couldn't care less what you yourself think about Band A or Band B.
You say it doesn't make a point, but what point are you making here by talking about them? Either you realize you aren't making a point either, or you realize that free expression isn't always about having a "point". You're doing the exact same thing those bands are doing.
1) You attack their music simply because of their political views. Certainly you can be mature enough to acknowledge that political views have nothing to do with music quality?
2) Or they actually try to get a message across. Sure it's a subjective message. So is yours. Are
you NOT inflating
your ego by complaining in these forums, rather than out on some stage somewhere? You're more egotistic than they are, with your "forceful but funny" speech".
3) Considering that they play several hundred free concerts while they're doing their little politiking, I would say that the whole "money" argument is a bit specious.
Sure I'm confrontational about this. This thread was a bunch of people talking about politics for no real reason in a music forum, veering way off the initial subject, and then patting each other on the back because they all had the exact same opinion.
But I don't want to waste a music forum on a political debate. If you feel the need to continue this, we'll do it in PMs.