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Making up history and having beliefs that are based on ZERO evidence except their imaginations is logical? Hardly.
I'm sort of confused as to why someone that is a self-declared Athiest or Deist, etc... would spend their time on a website called Christian Forum? Am I missing something? I seem to continually run across these threads where the argument is presented over and over about the non-existence of God. Isn't there a web-site for Athiests where your Theological Debate can take place? The argument gets really mundane after several hundred postings.Atheists do not think they know better than God.
Atheists do not believe in God.
Sorry, Slayer, but there is a myriad of evidence that Jesus lived and died for our sins. Only a blind man cannot see it. There is ZERO evidence for your beliefs except your imagination. The fact that you can't see that, shows me that arguing with you is like arguing with someone who thinks the world is flat. You have shown that you have nothing wise to say.
If you don't like it, don't post here. Easy.CRitabe said:
I'm sort of confused as to why someone that is a self-declared Athiest or Deist, etc... would spend their time on a website called Christian Forum? Am I missing something? I seem to continually run across these threads where the argument is presented over and over about the non-existence of God. Isn't there a web-site for Athiests where your Theological Debate can take place? The argument gets really mundane after several hundred postings.
Sorry, but there is SOME little evidence that Jesus lived. Certainly not a "myriad". There is no evidence outside of the bible that he "died for our sins".Carico said:Sorry, Slayer, but there is a myriad of evidence that Jesus lived and died for our sins. Only a blind man cannot see it..
That's simply false. What you mean, of course, is that nothing he has said you agree with.Carico said:You have shown that you have nothing wise to say.
Not true. There is a first century third hand account about a holy man named Jesus. But nothing outside of Christian script mentions that Jesus died for our sins. Also, not all early Christian script mentions this either.Carico said:Sorry, Slayer, but there is a myriad of evidence that Jesus lived and died for our sins.
You have shown that you have nothing wise to say.
What words of Jesus are you looking at? If it's about salvation, how can the "belief" that Jesus taught salvation be proven right or wrong when even in the Christian Belief system that time for judgment has not yet arrived. What evidance is there, other than in the transformation of people that the words attributed to Jesus are have any truth to them? But than why do so many of other spiritual traditions experience a transformation as well if there is only one true way to God?Carico said:Sorry, Holy heretic, but words cannot prove the truth or falseness of Christianity. The truth stands on its own merit. So far, Jesus has never been proven a liar after 2,000 years, but if you think you can do what no man before you has, then give it the old college try. If you're that convinced that you know better than Jesus does, then by all means, pass along your widom to others. But dou don't fool me. Sorry.
CRitabe said:
I'm sort of confused as to why someone that is a self-declared Athiest or Deist, etc... would spend their time on a website called Christian Forum? Am I missing something? I seem to continually run across these threads where the argument is presented over and over about the non-existence of God. Isn't there a web-site for Athiests where your Theological Debate can take place? The argument gets really mundane after several hundred postings.
I agree that challenging debate is healthy and interesting; however, so much of what I see and hear on this website is not debate nor is it intellectually stimulating, but simply a throwing out of preconceived ideas and challenge via stabbing shards of Biblical verse or a quick retreat to condescending inuendos.If we all stick to our own insular little worlds, communicating only with those who believe as we do then we will never understand others.
We don't come here to say "I DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD, LOOK AT ME I'M AN ATHEIST! ARRGH" we come here, to the General Apologetics area, to clarify Christian views on certain topics and to say "Here's an argument I have against Christianity. Discuss as you please." Are we going to change anybody's mind regarding Christianity? Probably not (But we may plant the seeds of disbelief every now and then). However, we can at least change people's minds about atheism and non-Christians in general. From your post, it seems there are still a lot of misconceptions that need clearing up.It seems to me that those who are argumentative in their own brand of "canned" rhetoric whether it is "I DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD" or "the Bible says thus and thus" re their particular stance are immature in their thinking process. As far as communicating with those who disagree with one's philosophy in order to promote understanding; I again agree that honest, open dialogue is beneficial; however, that is not what I hear most of the time in this forum. That is my humble opinion.
THANK YOU!!! The site looks very interesting. For me, the whole universality thing can be stated very clearly in just a few short words: "God is way too big to fit into one Religion".mindbender said:Hey, since we're welcoming criticism, here's the link to our open forum: universist.org/forum - go right ahead and criticize us to our faces.
Carico said:When looking at all the thread topics I am simply amazed at how many people do not know right from wrong. Questions about whether homosexuality is right or wrong, nudism, what truth is, etc. This is the state of the human condition; not knowing what right and wrong are but sure being convinced of their OPINIONS of right and wrong! a HUGE contradiction! That's one reason why there's a God! But He is usually ignored in favor of a person's opinion, even though that person has demonstrated that he doesn't have the answers! It's called pride. This is one example of the proud being humbled. But nevertheless, people go on looking for answers from other people who don't know the answers. There's that pride again. No wonder your guys' questions never stop. You're asking the wrong sources!
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