Rewards in heaven

[PrettyboyAndy]

I would like to do a deep study on this, because I want to redevote myself to eternal things.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

2 Cor 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil.

That is for the believer. From my salvation in 2009 until now, I was under the assumption that the believers salvation is secure/perseverance of the saints. (which I know is true) But with this mindset, and since my sins are paid, I figured I would not be judged on how I lived because Christ died for me (I could have avoided many sins even after my salvation) But in light of this verse, I would like to know what rewards will be, and can I be punished for not being more faithful since I have been saved?

 

[alsughasoughaiuyfygh]

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[Winken]

The "good" is faithfully witnessing to others about our Savior. The "evil" is when we have opportunity to do that, but for whatever reason, hesitate, back away, or fail to do so. One may stand before the JS rejoicing, only to be reminded of those failures. There will be a moment of grief, and then an unmeasurable presentation of the Glory of God, as all things become new, including:

A. Crown of Righteousness

B. Crown of Life

C. Incorruptible Crown

D. Crown of Rejoicing

E. Crown of Glory

The milestones of those headed
for our Heavenly Rewards:

1. Faith
2. Peace.
3. Joy.
4. Holiness.
5. Confidence.
6. Diligence.
7. Righteous living.

 

[RDKirk]

Find all the examples of anyone getting a "reward" in scripture.

What you find are stories and parables of stewards who are faithful in the stewardships they are given. Stewards who do good work are rewarded.

What is their reward?

Without a single exception, absolutely every time:

The reward for good work...is more work. A larger stewardship is always the reward of a good steward.

But the important point is this:

To one he gave five talents, to another two, to another one, to each according to his ability. -- Matthew 25

"...According to his ability."

This is why the steward who was given only two talents was just as happy with his two talents--and the subsequent corresponding mid-level "reward" as the steward who had been given five talents. He was happy to have been given no more than he could successfully handle. The master was smart enough to keep his stewards just below the "Peter Principle."

 

[Winken]

[dupe]

 

[Winken]

@Wayholka
Alles kommt, alles vergeht
Kein Wort der Reue, es ist zu spät
Das Wasser schlägt mir ins Gesicht
Die Welle bricht.


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[Original Happy Camper]

I would like to do a deep study on this, because I want to redevote myself to eternal things.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

2 Cor 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil.

That is for the believer. This whole time, I thought the believer was once saved always saved, (which I know is true) But since my sins are paid, I figured I could not be judged on how I live because Christ died for me (I could have avoided some sins even after my salvation) But in light of this verse, I would like to know what rewards will be, and can I be punished for not being more faithful since I have been saved?

Have you ever thought thru the process that the Lord goes through to determine who is saved and who is not? There has to be judgment made by Christ based on facts.

Rev 22
11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

Rev 14
6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

Daniel 7
9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.

10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.

These are just a few verses that deal with the judgment.
Jesus is our advocate;
1 John 2:1
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

Why would we need an advocate (attorney) unless we are in a judgment setting(court)

If you understand the sanctuary of the old testament, which is a pattern of the one in heaven, then you will understand the judgment and why we have a High Priest in Heaven
Psalm 77:13-15
Thy way, O God, is in the sanctuary: who is so great a God as our God?

 

[alsughasoughaiuyfygh]

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[Winken]

It's from a Megaherz song called, 'Kaltes Grab'.

OK, I looked it up just now.

 

[PrettyboyAndy]

Have you ever thought thru the process that the Lord goes through to determine who is saved and who is not? There has to be judgment made by Christ based on facts.

Rev 22
11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

Rev 14
6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

Daniel 7
9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.

10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.

These are just a few verses that deal with the judgment.
Jesus is our advocate;
1 John 2:1
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

Why would we need an advocate (attorney) unless we are in a judgment setting(court)

If you understand the sanctuary of the old testament, which is a pattern of the one in heaven, then you will understand the judgment and why we have a High Priest in Heaven
Psalm 77:13-15
Thy way, O God, is in the sanctuary: who is so great a God as our God?

Very true about the court setting and that we have an advocate.

In light of the verses your posted, what is your belief regarding rewards and or punishment to the believer who is already sealed with the spirit/saved, at the judgement when we die?

Like I already mentioned, I was under the assumption that the believer would not be judged because Christ died and paid for the believer.

 

[PrettyboyAndy]

I feel as thought I missed something so important, and should have walking out my salvation differently, this is eternity were talking about here.

Thanks Winken for your posts regarding the crowns , I would like to hear more about what the believer can do to obtain the favor and blessings and rewards in Heaven and also what the rewards are in particular. I think the crowns are the reward.

 

[truefiction1]

I would like to do a deep study on this, because I want to redevote myself to eternal things.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

2 Cor 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil.

That is for the believer. From my salvation in 2009 until now, I was under the assumption that the believers salvation is secure/perseverance of the saints. (which I know is true) But with this mindset, and since my sins are paid, I figured I would not be judged on how I lived because Christ died for me (I could have avoided many sins even after my salvation) But in light of this verse, I would like to know what rewards will be, and can I be punished for not being more faithful since I have been saved?

The reward is in coming to know God, Who is infinite and thus, the increase in the knowing of God extends into eternity, with bliss upon bliss and glory upon glory.

 

[PrettyboyAndy]

The reward is in coming to know God, Who is infinite and thus, the increase in the knowing of God extends into eternity, with bliss upon bliss and glory upon glory.

That's what I thought also, but 2 cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil.

This is exclusively to the believer, who is already secure and saved.

 

[PrettyboyAndy]

What is the purpose of the Judgment Seat of Christ?

The Bible talks about the Judgment Seat of Christ--also referred to as the bema--in three places: Romans 14:10-12; 1 Corinthians 3:10--4:5; and 2 Corinthians 5:1-10. Only church-age saints will appear at that judgment, as shown in 2 Corinthians 5:10: "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ."

The purpose of the bema is an exhaustive evaluation of our lives. First Corinthians 4:5 says the Lord will come and "bring to light the hidden things of darkness and reveal the counsels of the hearts. Then each one's praise will come from God."

That passage reveals Paul's emphasis on the judgment seat of Christ. Notice that Paul says each man's praise will come to him from God. God gives rewards to the victors; He does not whip the losers. We know that He won't condemn us for our sins at that point, because Romans 8:1 says, "There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus."

Thus, the purpose of the judgment seat of Christ is to examine a Christian's total life. We will be recompensed for the deeds we have done, whether good or bad (2 Cor. 5:10). The term used there refers to a summing up and estimation of the total pattern of a believer's life. This overall focus should keep us from worrying over every stupid thing we've ever done, or thoughtless sin we have committed. It's a time of reward, not punishment.

At the same time, while we won't be condemned for our sins, our present lives do affect what will happen at the Judgment Seat of Christ. Here's how:

Sin and indifference in this life rob us of our present desire for serving the Lord. That in turn means a loss of rewards, because we will not have used our time to His glory. That is why Paul exhorts us to "be careful how [we] walk, not as unwise men, but as wise, making the most of [our] time, because the days are evil" (Eph. 5:15-16, NASB).
Sin and indifference result in a loss of power in our lives because sin grieves the Holy Spirit.
Sin and indifference cause us to pass up opportunities for service, which we would otherwise perform and be rewarded for.
The greatest consequence of unfaithfulness here on earth is that it disappoints Christ. First John 2:28 says, "And now, little children, abide in Him, that when He appears, we may have confidence and not be ashamed before Him at His coming." That is a sobering thought--we could be ashamed as we stand before the Lord. At the same time, it should encourage us with the prospect of receiving His lavish rewards if we serve Him faithfully during our time here on earth.

From John MacArthur

 

[RDKirk]

A heaven borne with eternal regrets would not be heaven, it would be hell.

There will be no regrets in heaven.

 

[Original Happy Camper]

In light of the verses your posted, what is your belief regarding rewards and or punishment to the believer who is already sealed with the spirit/saved, at the judgement when we die?

Why would you think that there is a punishment for somebody that is "already sealed". That is not logical. Only the righteous receive rewards at the second coming of Jesus no punishment for them. Unless I am mistaken the word "seal" in the context you used is only found in the following verse.
Rev 7
2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

This sealing is after the Judgement, close of probation, when Michael stands up.

Daniel 12:1
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

 

[PrettyboyAndy]

Why would you think that there is a punishment for somebody that is "already sealed". That is not logical. Only the righteous receive rewards at the second coming of Jesus no punishment for them. Unless I am mistaken the word "seal" in the context you used is only found in the following verse.
Rev 7
2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

This sealing is after the Judgement, close of probation, when Michael stands up.

Daniel 12:1
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Your right, I am mistaken, Instead of punishment I mean lessor rewards for the less faithful believer in Christ, at the time of the Bema Seat Judgement when the Lord will give judgement upon how we lived our lives.

 

[PrettyboyAndy]

A heaven borne with eternal regrets would not be heaven, it would be hell.

There will be no regrets in heaven.

Thanks brother

 

[truefiction1]

That's what I thought also, but 2 cor 5:10 - For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil.

This is exclusively to the believer, who is already secure and saved.

The judgment seat is to determine whether one is a believer or not. Only those who repent and keep Christ's commandments can become believers for real. If God can't see any of Himself in a "so-called" believer, He will not know those whose evil nature is alien to His, and they will need to depart from Him because He does not know them, and neither do they know Him.

 

[PrettyboyAndy]

The judgment seat is to determine whether one is a believer or not. Only those who repent and keep Christ's commandments can become believers for real. If God can't see any of Himself in a "so-called" believer, He will not know those whose evil nature is alien to His, and they will need to depart from Him because He does not them, and neither do they know Him.

Thats what I thought from 2009 when I was saved till now.

I was secure in my justification, because I was saved and sealed with the Spirit, and He who began a good work will continue it until completion.

I did not know I would get judged according to my service.

Only the believer will be at the Bema Seat Judgement:

For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad. 2 Cor 5:10

The great white throne judgment is described in Revelation 20:11-15 and is the final judgment prior to the lost being cast into the lake of fire. (Got Questions)

The Great White Judgement (cast the non believers of Christ into hell)is different from the Bema Seat Judgement (believer judged according to his service). There are two or three judgements, I thought there was only one.

I thought they were one in the same, and being justified by Christ I would not be judged.

Why did no one explain this to me for 7 years I don't understand