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<blockquote data-quote="Terry Cz" data-source="post: 215784" data-attributes="member: 2513"><p>I guess you folk must not be bible believing Christians, or maybe your version says something different than mine. It says right here that:</p><p></p><p><span style="color: red">Whatever you want others to do for you, do also the same for them. </span>Matt 7:12</p><p></p><p>Would you really want your country to be obliterated by 6 months or 6 years of bombing? It seemed like one day of bombing in NYC was a lot of grief, let alone 6 months worth. It looks like the reverse of the above scripture would be true as well. If a country wants to be murdered, they should go out and murder others. I can see heathen people doing that, but I thought that America said they followed God, and a loving God at that.</p><p></p><p>It says in another place:</p><p></p><p><span style="color: red">"<strong>You have heard that it was said, An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.</strong> But I tell you, don't resist an evildoer. On the contrary, <strong>if anyone slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also.</strong> ... "You have heard that it was said, You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I tell you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father in heaven... <strong>For if you love those who love you, what reward will you have? </strong>Don't even the tax collectors do the same?And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing out of the ordinary? Don't even the Gentiles do the same? </span>Matt. 5:38-48</p><p></p><p>It looks to me like America is doing a bit more than an eye for an eye. Speaking of killing innocent people. In December I read a report that documented that after only 3 months of bombing in Afghanistan, nearly 4000 <strong>civilian</strong> men, women and children had been killed by the American Christian soldiers. I have wondered what the total is now after 8 months of bombing. This did not include all the youth that have been slaughtered attempting to defend their religion by joining the Taliban soldiers. Would this be considered retaliation by the U.S.? </p><p></p><p>It would seem that if Christ were in the hearts of those who were slapped, they would not slug anyone back in defense. At least that is what it looks like to me. What does your bible say?</p><p></p><p>It sounds like you guys are saying kill others first before they get a chance to kill you. Is that what Jesus meant when he said:</p><p></p><p><span style="color: red">Any man who makes it his object to keep his own life safe, will lose it; but whoever loses his life will preserve it.</span> Luke 17:33</p><p></p><p>What do you think He meant by what He said? </p><p></p><p>There is another verse that I have wondered about its full meaning. It says:</p><p></p><p><span style="color: red">All those who live by the sword, shall die by the sword.</span> Matt. 26:52</p><p></p><p>Do you think that this could be reinterpreted to mean:</p><p></p><p><span style="color: red">All those who live by the gun/bomb will die by the gun/bomb.</span></p><p></p><p>I once heard a song and the lyrics went something like this:</p><p></p><p><span style="color: blue">"Onward Christian soldiers, marching on to war..."</span></p><p></p><p>Is that why Americans are involved in so many wars? Some Americans think that by killing those they do not like it will convert everyone else to Amarica's God. Do you think that will really work in bringing people to Jesus?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Terry Cz, post: 215784, member: 2513"] I guess you folk must not be bible believing Christians, or maybe your version says something different than mine. It says right here that: [color=red]Whatever you want others to do for you, do also the same for them. [/color]Matt 7:12 Would you really want your country to be obliterated by 6 months or 6 years of bombing? It seemed like one day of bombing in NYC was a lot of grief, let alone 6 months worth. It looks like the reverse of the above scripture would be true as well. If a country wants to be murdered, they should go out and murder others. I can see heathen people doing that, but I thought that America said they followed God, and a loving God at that. It says in another place: [color=red]"[b]You have heard that it was said, An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.[/b] But I tell you, don't resist an evildoer. On the contrary, [b]if anyone slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also.[/b] ... "You have heard that it was said, You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I tell you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father in heaven... [b]For if you love those who love you, what reward will you have? [/b]Don't even the tax collectors do the same?And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing out of the ordinary? Don't even the Gentiles do the same? [/color]Matt. 5:38-48 It looks to me like America is doing a bit more than an eye for an eye. Speaking of killing innocent people. In December I read a report that documented that after only 3 months of bombing in Afghanistan, nearly 4000 [b]civilian[/b] men, women and children had been killed by the American Christian soldiers. I have wondered what the total is now after 8 months of bombing. This did not include all the youth that have been slaughtered attempting to defend their religion by joining the Taliban soldiers. Would this be considered retaliation by the U.S.? It would seem that if Christ were in the hearts of those who were slapped, they would not slug anyone back in defense. At least that is what it looks like to me. What does your bible say? It sounds like you guys are saying kill others first before they get a chance to kill you. Is that what Jesus meant when he said: [color=red]Any man who makes it his object to keep his own life safe, will lose it; but whoever loses his life will preserve it.[/color] Luke 17:33 What do you think He meant by what He said? There is another verse that I have wondered about its full meaning. It says: [color=red]All those who live by the sword, shall die by the sword.[/color] Matt. 26:52 Do you think that this could be reinterpreted to mean: [color=red]All those who live by the gun/bomb will die by the gun/bomb.[/color] I once heard a song and the lyrics went something like this: [color=blue]"Onward Christian soldiers, marching on to war..."[/color] Is that why Americans are involved in so many wars? Some Americans think that by killing those they do not like it will convert everyone else to Amarica's God. Do you think that will really work in bringing people to Jesus? [/QUOTE]
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