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In my usage of the term, I meant that I'm okay with @the iconoclast having his belief. I disagree with it, but to each their own. I
Hey bigv
I agree. We can both disagree with the other but still respect that we both have free will to have a belief.
I may think atheistism is irrational and you may have decided that Christianity is. To say you respect that I have a belief and be faced by opposition from your own side was huge.
Even though I disagree with atheism, you have earned a form of respect from me.
Cheers
Yes, I remember you as well. You always duck out of conversations. I can't dive into one with you until you wade out of the kiddie pool and paddle over to the deep end.
Hey hey cherub.
I admit I can get distracted by the fun things atheists say on this forum. I have dropped conversations in the past due to wanting to concentrate on something new that popped up.
Please forgive me if I have done this to you but as I recall, you left out last conversation. You asked me for a reason as to why you should get into a discussion with me. I replied and you ran off.
Good news my dear, I'm willing to leave the kiddie pool and jump into the deep end with you.
I'll let you go on the offensive. What have you got for me?
Cheers. I want you!
That's not quite what happened. You dropped out of our one and only conversation. I've refused conversation with you since then, which is not the same as dropping out of conversation.
Anyway, is there anything you wanted to discuss aside from semantics, or do you truly want to delve into the definition of nihilism?
Hey hey
If you say so
I'm outta the kiddie pool and looking to join you in the deep end. Let's delve into the definition of nihilism.
I assume you reject all religious and moral principles, in the belief that life is meaningless.
What does meaningless mean to you and how does it fit in with your philosophy?
Cheers
Münchhausen trilemma - Wikipedia
It sounds like you're saying you respect the actions that result from beliefs, and not the beliefs themselves.
Hey, what happened to your question?
Well, I haven't given my post so much thought as you guys have, apparently. What I wanted to convey to the poster to whom I responded to, was that arguing with them over the resurrection of Jesus is pointless. Just like it's pointless to argue with someone believing in Santa Claus. They are not claiming to have evidence supporting their belief being true, but saying that they believe what the book says.
So, in that case, I respect their position. Not because I agree with it (I don't), but because they have clearly said that they have a belief and once someone says their view is based on a belief and nothing else, I think argument is over. Not because they win, but because we can no longer have a rational conversation about it.
Well... but there is evidence for a modern-day magical Santa Claus. The parents "predict the future" and tell children that Santa Claus will deliver presents on Christmas Day. The presents appear as predicted and are labeled "From Santa." The cookies are eaten. The evidence is consistent with the claim.
Even this low threshold is not met by Christianity.
Yep, I agree. But what would you say to someone who wants to believe in Santa because they have a present "from Santa"? If that's their belief, then it makes no sense to argue with them, no?
Hey hey nihilist virus
Ahh so within the study of the nature of knowledge, justification, the rationality of belief, and various related issues. We have a trilemma.
The trilemma is a thought experiment used to demonstrate the impossibility of proving any truth, even in the fields of logic and mathematics.
If there is evidence or an argument that establishes a fact - or the truth of a statement provided for something - then the proof can be questioned using a circular argument, a regresive argument or an axiomatic argument.
The trilemma is which decision to use amongst these 3 unsatisfying options.
Ok let's see your philosophy at work.
I have 2 examples that we are to debate.
1. If I have a seed and no others then we label that seed as one or singular to express quantity.
We label the seed, "seed". This way you and I cannot get confused when we communicate.
I find another seed of the same variety and label my quality as 2 seeds. I find another and label that quantity as 3. I find yet another one and call this quantity 4.
1+1+1+1=4.
A. The truth is I have seeds of the same variety that yield the number 4. Argue against the certainty of this truth?
2. My uncle dies and I notice that every person - who lived on this earth - eventually dies.
B. It is a certainty that all who live will die. Argue against the certainty of this truth?
Cheers and I look forward to your response. Don't forget what's at stake, there will not be any running away.
Lets see why the deep end is better than the kiddie pool hey
Hey, what happened to your question?
I appreciate you reading about the trilemma, but the next step is to apply it to your thinking.
Did you actually think about this, or do you think that the trilemma does not apply to mathematics?
Spoken language yields to the trilemma by being circular (every word is defined in terms of other words, and there are finitely many words), whereas the formal language (mathematics and logic) are axiomatic. Mathematics is literally nothing but assumptions, definitions, and the conclusions that follow; nothing about physical reality can be determined from assumptions and definitions.
As for "labeling" seeds with numbers, refer to the ship of Theseus.
Ship of Theseus - Wikipedia
While a seed does not have obvious components to it, it is comprised of molecules that are shedding and accumulating all the time.
Lol. As always Cvanwey, you shut down any possibility of discussion before it can even start.
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