Requiem of the Damned

[SaintGeorge]

A message sent to an atheist:

"Every soul has a song. I think this one might be yours.

You are a child of the night, dark and beautiful, accursed and wretched. You walk an existence of meaninglessness, and perhaps think it sometimes better to die than live. Who can say that you are wrong? Who can say that you are right? There is no right nor wrong, not with the mistress of oblivion.

I too have tasted her exquisite, delicate, foul and sour liquid, but I spit it out promptly. I do not sing your song, but feel free to sing it. Your human dignity demands it.

Reject God and truth, be free from everything!
However, as a result, you will have nothing.

Choose as you will. Afterall, intellectual honesty demands that you crucify honesty itself, or does it?

Why not offer yourself as an oblation in the process?

Turn back while you still can, but if you really want to proceed, then your greatest desires will certainly be fulfilled, no doubt. A man always ultimately obtains exactly what he wants.

Requiem of the Damned
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Hail to thee, O oblivion pure,
On which I plunge, my being to skewer!
No light, no love, Only darkness above.
Morality and law,
Nothing but hee and haw!

I thirst, I live in godless spite!
The world is naught but a godless night!
Restrict me from pleasure by religion and die,
For within I fear no flame, so let me fry!

I am meaningless, and so are you,
So do not seek with your lies to subdue,
For all is a lie, none of it is true.

When I perish, I am no longer.
The dust of my ashes, there is no argument stronger.
There is no purpose except that, which I make,
But in the end, it all dies, pierced by a stake.
There is no God where I am,
There is no God in hell.

Pleasure, pleasure without end!
Despair, despair in my sin.

Let it be a warning to all who choose pleasure over the Ultimate Good.

 

[BAFRIEND]

The atheists I know will never be happy until my life is as meaningless and pointless as theirs.

 

[Annabel Lee]

I can't believe you two.

Does it feel good to drag people down so you can feel holy and righteous?

You really don't know people, do you? How could you when you are staring down at the sinners from your saintly pedestal.

I pity you.

 

[Annabel Lee]

Here's a message for you, SaintGeorge.

If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. _And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. _If I give away all I have, and if I deliver my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing.
--1 Corinthians 13:1-3​

 

[Cosmic Charlie]

[FONT=&quot]When it comes to evangelizing nothing works quite like threats and condescension

Execpt maybe hired goons.
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[Tigg]

Catchy little requiem there. Could apply to some Christians as well. Or to any group name ya wanna put in there. The agnostic/atheists I have known have been good people. They have had morals. Thoughtful group basically. Of course I don't know 100's of em. Most don't discuss a belief they consider a fantasy, like Santa Clause. However I am sure there are some of that group who fit the OP quote right along with some Christians. I would like to stand up for those who aren't here to stand up for themselves, the atheist and or agnostic. Generally an intelligent group of people who have their own reasons for their lack of belief and are entitled to what they believe. Whose intelligence speaks more loudly to their honesty than the negatory statements one usually finds about them. Just my OP but do believe than Jesus would find them a most refreshing group to talk to if He were here to do so. I feel the OP post and those who agree with it in a blanket statement are wrong. I hate clumping a whole group of people into any particular straight jacket.

Thanks to those I have known who did not or didn't know if there was a God. They were most accommodating to me. Explained their position well. And caused me to think. :-D

-Peace-

 

[RoseofLima]

My husband is an aetheist and yet is not a hedonist. He has tried to seek faith, but cannot reconcile it with his intellect. He is a stand up guy, and by no means tries to convert anyone to aetheism- only to not being stupid.

 

[Avatar]

My husband is an aetheist and yet is not a hedonist. He has tried to seek faith, but cannot reconcile it with his intellect. He is a stand up guy, and by no means tries to convert anyone to aetheism- only to not being stupid.

I've met many atheists who are warm, compassionate people - and many Christians who are not.

 

[Carrye]

Really, who desires eternal (or temporal!) sadness and unrest? I don't know a single person, atheist, Christian or otherwise. We should desire the salvation of every soul - and if we desire exactly what the Lord does, then that will be our prayer. Satan was given the result of his "holier than thou" too.

 

[zhilan]

O my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of Hell, lead all souls to Heaven, especially those in most need of your mercy.

Shouldn't we be praying for the salvation of all rather than delighting in their damnation?

 

[Gwendolyn]

SG, do you experience much anxiety around the thought of your own salvation? I ask only because I have seen you post many negative things like this... and usually it is because of the fact that the poster is unsure or anxious about his own faith/salvation, and can grasp a sense of security by only working with absolutes, blacks and whites, no greys.

I would encourage you to think and pray more rather than lashing out. God is judge. We are not. We must pray for those who do not believe, as it is our baptismal duty to spread the Gospel. And we must always remember that the Gospel is a message of love first and foremost. Not of damnation.

 

[SaintGeorge]

Of course those who persist in atheism until death are condemned, but where have I condemned individuals here?

I posted a letter full of profound teaching and insight...must it be ignored because it offends you? In my opening post, I said that we should all learn from it. I found it very instructive myself.

As for blanket statements, yes, deep down inside, all atheists are evil, or have you forgotten the inherent evil of man? There is always an excuse for sin these days, whether it be intellect, upbringing, or whatever.

"I'm sure a murderer is a pretty nice guy, and he can't be blamed for what he did for such and such a reason."

Wake up while there's still time and realize what you're saying. You disdain the darker mysteries of life and do not take counsel from the Saints and other writings. Have you forgotten what hell and sin are? You condemn the concept of condemnation.

And you read offenses into writings meant to call people to repentance, and instead question the motives behind them.

Sometimes I fear you would even condemn the Old Testament prophets if they ever mentioned God's wrath.

 

[RoseofLima]

To say that man is inherently evil is a heresey. Man is inherently good- made in the image and likeness of God....

You also do not know the fate of any man...aetheist or otherwise. God is the dispenser of justice and mercy- we only know the most ordinary means of salvation.

Calling people to repentence is something that needs to be done with immense grace and taken on a case by case basis to determine the best approach.

 

[zhilan]

To say that man is inherently evil is a heresey. Man is inherently good- made in the image and likeness of God....

You also do not know the fate of any man...aetheist or otherwise. God is the dispenser of justice and mercy- we only know the most ordinary means of salvation.

Calling people to repentence is something that needs to be done with immense grace and taken on a case by case basis to determine the best approach.

Good point.

 

[stivvy]

[FONT=&quot]When it comes to evangelizing nothing works quite like threats and condescension[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Execpt maybe hired goons. [/FONT]

Worked for John the Baptist. Sometime one just have to get stuff off their chest and tell it like it is.

 

[Voegelin]

"Requiem of the Damned" reminds me a lot of Karl Marx's early writings: "Scenes from Oulanem" and "Invocation of one in despair".

 

[Irenaeus]

I doubt that will convert any athiest. Honestly.

 

[Tigg]

I doubt that will convert any athiest. Honestly.

Lol! I guess not. Who knows but that perhaps an atheist will be at the head of the line to enter heaven. And I might be in the other line. What a sobering thought. Even worse, I would be at the front of that line.

I think I had better make sure of my own salvation and when trying to help someone with their salvation, to be mighty careful that I am a help, not a hindrance

-Peace-

 

[SolomonVII]

SG, do you experience much anxiety around the thought of your own salvation? I ask only because I have seen you post many negative things like this... and usually it is because of the fact that the poster is unsure or anxious about his own faith/salvation, and can grasp a sense of security by only working with absolutes, blacks and whites, no greys.

I would encourage you to think and pray more rather than lashing out. God is judge. We are not. We must pray for those who do not believe, as it is our baptismal duty to spread the Gospel. And we must always remember that the Gospel is a message of love first and foremost. Not of damnation.

Likely, your insight is correct that SG tends more to being the Christian who is working toward his salvation in 'fear and trembling', rather than being the 'Once Saved Always Saved' type.
However, I did not notice so much that he was lashing out at others. Rather it seems (to me) more that others are lashing out at him.

The fact that God deemed his Creation good does not really speak to the godlessness that I often experience in my own soul, and the meaninglessness and the temptation for the dark beauty that lie in the shadows and the darkness.
If Saint George has been personally touched by the darkness that is the abode of the damned as it is alluded to in the poetry he posted, be assured that he is not alone.

Godlessness defines our modern culture to such an extent that it affects us all. Before they were athiests, they were Christians. And for we Catholics especially, children are leaving the Church in droves in their teenage years.

So while it may be productive to give Saint George constructive criticism on the type of sword he is using to fight this dragon, it is also worthwhile to keep in mind that the dragon that he is fighting against-both within and without- has developed an insatiable appetite for our own Christian children especially.

Godlessness is the dragon that has found an expecially wide entrance into our world through the gates of the the post-christian world. this is part of our history too.