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Gabriel · Feb 11, 2004

I saw this topic in News & Current Events and I was wondering if some of you would check it out and comment. It looked like it was going to become a battle over there and I don't really want anyone's opinion oither than a Catholic view. So, Protestants need not reply.

I will review this thread, but I will not post anything other than questions.

Mel says his wife is going to hell?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4224452/

Mel Gibson has come under fire for being hard on Jews in his film The Passion of the Christ but apparently, he feels that Protestants are also doomed to damnation. In fact, it looks like Gibson, a conservative Catholic, believes that his Episcopalian wife could be going to hell.

Gibson was interviewed by the Herald Sun in Australia, and the reporter asked the star if Protestants are denied eternal salvation. There is no salvation for those outside the Church, Gibson replied. I believe it.

He elaborated: Put it this way. My wife is a saint. Shes a much better person than I am. Honestly. Shes, like, Episcopalian, Church of England. She prays, she believes in God, she knows Jesus, she believes in that stuff. And its just not fair if she doesnt make it, shes better than I am. But that is a pronouncement from the chair. I go with it.

Metanoia02 · Feb 11, 2004

Gabriel said:
I saw this topic in News & Current Events and I was wondering if some of you would check it out and comment. It looked like it was going to become a battle over there and I don't really want anyone's opinion oither than a Catholic view. So, Protestants need not reply.

I will review this thread, but I will not post anything other than questions.

Mel says his wife is going to hell?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4224452/

Mel Gibson has come under fire for being hard on Jews in his film The Passion of the Christ but apparently, he feels that Protestants are also doomed to damnation. In fact, it looks like Gibson, a conservative Catholic, believes that his Episcopalian wife could be going to hell.

Gibson was interviewed by the Herald Sun in Australia, and the reporter asked the star if Protestants are denied eternal salvation. There is no salvation for those outside the Church, Gibson replied. I believe it.

He elaborated: Put it this way. My wife is a saint. Shes a much better person than I am. Honestly. Shes, like, Episcopalian, Church of England. She prays, she believes in God, she knows Jesus, she believes in that stuff. And its just not fair if she doesnt make it, shes better than I am. But that is a pronouncement from the chair. I go with it.

First of all the columnist Jeanette Walls who is on the byline of the story is a Gossip columnist. Secondly, a search of the Herald Sun (the "source" of this story) has no article related to this at all. Thirdly, they will put out all the stop to slander Mel Gibson and this movie.

Is it true? I have no idea. But I have serious doubts about its truthfulness.

Gabriel · Feb 11, 2004

Oh, I would like to clarify, I am not trying to bash Mel. I think he rocks. This movie is an excellent ministry and needs to be seen by as many people as possible.

Gabriel · Feb 11, 2004

Hi Neal!

Michelina · Feb 11, 2004

Mel is great in his field. This movie is going to be a phenomenon - it will save many souls.

But Mel is no theologian. He is very influenced by his father, who belongs to a very right-wing group of people who seem to believe that they are more Catholic than the Pope.

To say that nonCatholics can't enter heaven is blaphemy. It offends against the sanctity of God, who cannot be unjust.

KC Catholic · Feb 11, 2004

If....IF he said it....then he needs to check his catechism because he is wrong. Secondly I cannot see him pronoucing such a judgement on his wife and other non-Catholics.

On the positive side...I cannot wait to see the movie and see the power of the Holy Spirit to change lives through viewing this movie.

Miss Shelby · Feb 11, 2004

I really don't think that he would disrespect his wife in such a way. In the past, when interviewed about his family, he has always said good things about her, and women in general. This is either skewed to show bias or it is false.

Michelle

nyj · Feb 11, 2004

Gabriel said:
There is no salvation for those outside the Church, Gibson replied. I believe it.

Now, if Mel said this, and he believes that, what he fails to realize is that by baptism, the Catholic Church considers all Christians to be a part of the Church. There are varying degrees of intimacy with the Church (some are separated, some are not) but all properly baptised individuals are a part of Jesus' Church.

So, on one hand he is right... there is no salvation outside the Church. But how he's interpreted that is different than how it was intended, and how it's interpreted by the very Church who made that pronouncement.

KennySe · Feb 11, 2004

Mel Gibson has said on his live interview this year (which aired on EWTN) that he is not a theologian or a preacher. So, *if* he said such a thing, and *if* he meant it in the way the article's author implies, then he is wrong.
And he never said that he was right.

I hope this issue comes up next Monday when Diane Sawyer's one-on-one interview with Mr. Gibson airs in primetime on "Primetime."

Bastoune · Feb 11, 2004

Sure looks like "sound bites" (in print) to me... given how TV edits, imagine how this gossip columnist (THERE'S a reliable source!) would.He said, she said... blah, blah, blah... and since he called his wife a "SAINT" well... the two don't add up!!!

Miss Shelby · Feb 11, 2004

KennySe said:
I hope this issue comes up next Monday when Diane Sawyer's one-on-one interview with Mr. Gibson airs in primetime on "Primetime."

Thanks for that heads up Kenny. I don't watch a lot of primetime tv, so I wouldn't have known about this otherwise. I hope it doesn't tick me off. Secular tv (as it applies to the news)-- usually does.

Michelle

Dominus Fidelis · Feb 12, 2004

Gabriel-

I echo what has already been said...plus, I am amazed at the lengths that Satan is going to malign this movie. It just won't stop...first it was accusations of anti-semitism, then it was charges of commericialization of the Gospel, now it is trying to split Protestants and Catholics even more.

Jesus wasn't kidding when He warned that Satan had demanded to shift us like wheat.

JeffreyLloyd · Feb 12, 2004

We need to pray for Mel

Bastoune · Feb 12, 2004

On a side note, my roommate (who is a practicing Baptist -- even though he practices "other things" I'm sure his pastor wouldn't approve of) told me two nights ago, "Did you hear the actor who's playing Jesus in that movie got struck by lightning when they filmed it? Talk about God telling them, 'Don't make this movie!'"

I shook my head in disbelief.

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