Reptile to Bird

[grace24]

From what i understand, the order of creation in Genesis is that birds were created before the land animals including the dinosaurs. Contrary to this, evolutionists timetable seen to contradict Genesis. They believe land animals evolved into birds. Can somebody help me tackle this position? One example the archeopteryx. What is the standard YEC position for this? I believe in creation too so i'll learn as i go.

We are told birds evolved to dinosaurs. Experts says otherwise:

"A new analysis was done of an unusual fossil specimen discovered in 2003 called "microraptor," in which three-dimensional models were used to study its possible flight potential, and it concluded this small, feathered species must have been a "glider" that came down from trees. The research is well done and consistent with a string of studies in recent years that pose increasing challenge to the birds-from-dinosaurs theory, said John Ruben, a professor of zoology at Oregon State University who authored a commentary in PNAS on the new research."

"The weight of the evidence is now suggesting that not only did birds not descend from dinosaurs, Ruben said, but that some species now believed to be dinosaurs may have descended from birds."

Study challenges bird-from-dinosaur theory of evolution - was it the other way around?

If birds did not come from reptile, then where does it come from?

 

[mark kennedy]

From what i understand, the order of creation in Genesis is that birds were created before the land animals including the dinosaurs. Contrary to this, evolutionists timetable seen to contradict Genesis. They believe land animals evolved into birds. Can somebody help me tackle this position? One example the archeopteryx. What is the standard YEC position for this? I believe in creation too so i'll learn as i go.

We are told birds evolved to dinosaurs. Experts says otherwise:

"A new analysis was done of an unusual fossil specimen discovered in 2003 called "microraptor," in which three-dimensional models were used to study its possible flight potential, and it concluded this small, feathered species must have been a "glider" that came down from trees. The research is well done and consistent with a string of studies in recent years that pose increasing challenge to the birds-from-dinosaurs theory, said John Ruben, a professor of zoology at Oregon State University who authored a commentary in PNAS on the new research."

"The weight of the evidence is now suggesting that not only did birds not descend from dinosaurs, Ruben said, but that some species now believed to be dinosaurs may have descended from birds."

Study challenges bird-from-dinosaur theory of evolution - was it the other way around?

If birds did not come from reptile, then where does it come from?

I have pursued this a couple of times and once in a debate I found a fascinating article on the real obstacles to this supposed transition. One of the real problems is the change in internal organs and metabolism, particularly the organs.

The striking superficial resemblance between the bones of the theropod dinosaurs (the so-called "bird-like" dinosaurs) and Archaeopteryx (one of the most ancient birds - which lived roughly 150 millions years ago) has led scientists to hypothesize that birds are descendants of these dinosaurs. The bones of the wing of Archaeopteryx look very much like the bones of the theropod dinosaur, Deinonychus. Indeed, the resemblance is so striking that it convinced a very large percentage of the scientific community that birds are descended from the theropod dinosaurs.​

Demise of the "Birds are Dinosaurs" Theory

The dramatic changes in internal organs are bad, the way they are ignored by evolutionists just make it worse.

Grace and peace,
Mark

 

[grace24]

The dramatic changes in internal organs are bad, the way they are ignored by evolutionists just make it worse.

Birds walk around bending their knee because they're incapable of moving their thigh bone. If they do their lungs will collapsed if they have the same thigh bone as these dinosaurs.

 

[iambeeman]

great question, I'm gonna be watching the answers!!!

I don't have any of my own as of yet.

 

[Papias]

First, Grace, please note that the article agrees that birds descended from reptiles, and never disputes that.

Secondly, if you actually want to find out the evidence and have a discussion about it, you'll have to post that question in the general origins forum, not in this creationism echo-chamber.

Thirdly, theistic evolution supporters such as myself do believe in creation. We believe that God used evolution as a method to create, just as God used birth from Mary as a method to incarnate Jesus.

All the best-

Papias