Remembering Dan.

dayhiker · Mar 10, 2014

It was nice to read more about Dan's life. Thanks for the post.

graciesings · Mar 10, 2014

I don't belong in mature singles... but I wanted to drop in and say that I'm still praying for his boys. http://www.christianforums.com/t7804738/ They need it more than ever now, with their Dad gone...

LilyMJ · Mar 10, 2014

I believe it was September 2011, but I could be wrong.

memoriesbymichelle said:
Do we know how long ago this happened? I know he said he got injured about 3 weeks into his final tour, but how long ago was that? anyone know?

LilyMJ · Mar 10, 2014

Two favorites from his old facebook page. Some of you probably already saw these. I miss Dan a lot and I hope his family knows how much we care.

bobross · Mar 10, 2014

iambren said:
I did not know Dan but I am familial with suicidal thoughts. I'm interested in who may have seen the dangers coming(can we learn from it),how did he commit suicide,did he leave a note that explains where he was and did that help with his family.

Very sad,as kids can take on guilt and wonder if this is a family trend. His load must have been very heavy to overcome the "will to live". I read a statistic that in the last 10 years men in their 50s have had a 150% increase in suicide. The thought was that it was due to men losing their job they had over 30yrs and not finding new employment. Man's role is perceived as provider so identity is threatened. (Exactly where I have lived this last year.)

Blessings to his family.

Hello Bren. I know they don't want us talking about this, but I'm going to talk about and hope I don't get mod-hatted. I think it's important to discuss so we can hopefully help others in the future.

I for one do not know a lot of the details, so maybe some others can chime in, but just from him saying things such as he didn't want to be here anymore...I think there should have been a red flag. I only knew him for a few days, though, other than running into him in other parts of the forum here and there. It seemed like he was really hurting.

The thing with his kids being at risk due to a family trend was brought up somewhere else, and I truly hope they can get some good counseling before it is too late.

Those statistics are pretty alarming but not all that surprising. I am really sorry you are feeling so low. Your life is important and I want you to know I am here if you ever need to talk.

Eagle Of Oz · Mar 10, 2014

memoriesbymichelle said:
Do we know how long ago this happened? I know he said he got injured about 3 weeks into his final tour, but how long ago was that? anyone know?

I'm pretty sure it was September 2011, as Lily said. I didnt realise at first, but as Dan shared with us all here, I remembered getting a prayer request for him, so I went back and had a look, and the request was in September 2011.

sedonarose · Mar 10, 2014

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Kellz316 · Mar 10, 2014

Thank you for fighting for us Dan, we love you!!

sedonarose · Mar 10, 2014

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brinny · Mar 11, 2014

Kellz316 said:
Thank you for fighting for us Dan, we love you!!

I 2nd this. We love you Dan!!!! ((((hug))))

lindseyw05 · Mar 11, 2014

Great pictures Lily. I remember Dan. He always seemed so happy. So sad that he died

bobross · Mar 11, 2014

Kellz316 said:
Thank you for fighting for us Dan, we love you!!

brinny said:
I 2nd this. We love you Dan!!!! ((((hug))))

Yep. One of my biggest regrets is never telling him that I was thankful for his service. But I am very thankful.

memoriesbymichelle · Mar 11, 2014

bobross said:
Yep. One of my biggest regrets is never telling him that I was thankful for his service. But I am very thankful.

I believe he knows

blackribbon · Mar 11, 2014

I don't think he was able to "hear" the thanks anymore. Someone had convinced him that he was a "monster" and a "murderer" of many thousands of people through that service...and that even God couldn't love him because of this. He didn't feel like it was a compliment or a "praise". He no longer felt the honor that he obviously once did.

Sad to say, I kind of suspect that this belief (and bullying) came from people on Christianforum based on what he said and how active he appeared to be here both before and after his injuries. After the fact, his social life was primarily limited to online because of his disabilities.

bobross · Mar 11, 2014

blackribbon said:
I don't think he was able to "hear" the thanks anymore. Someone had convinced him that he was a "monster" and a "murderer" of many thousands of people through that service...and that even God couldn't love him because of this. He didn't feel like it was a compliment or a "praise". He no longer felt the honor that he obviously once did.

Sad to say, I kind of suspect that this belief (and bullying) came from people on Christianforum based on what he said and how active he appeared to be here both before and after his injuries. After the fact, his social life was primarily limited to online because of his disabilities.

There are a lot of bullies here. I became a member quite some time ago but left for a long time because there are so many ruthless people here. I know there are others who have felt the same way as I did. It's sad to think that people on a Christian website could be so hateful. Especially after reading about how Dan touched so may peoples' lives and led them to Christ. I don't know if you read Michelle's post from yesterday about that, but why would people hate on someone who has done so much good in the world? I don't understand.

bobross · Mar 11, 2014

These aren't Christian songs, but I posted them because they are ones Dan had posted shortly before he died but had never been able to hear. He said he just liked the words. It has to be hard to lose your hearing. I love music too much. It has a way of speaking to your soul.

Luke Bryan - Drink A Beer - YouTube

Jason Aldean - When She Says Baby - YouTube

I Drive Your Truck - YouTube

blackribbon · Mar 11, 2014

I know those songs without having to play them. I don't think people realize how isolating no hearing can be. We get so much information through our ears. When people start to lose their hearing, people just quit trying to communicate anymore ... often making decisions without consulting the deaf person. This not only removes social interaction but robs a person of the dignity of being a thinking adult.

I am glad Dan was able to help me rethink how I treat deaf patients. Instead of being frustrated and limited on how I can care for this patient, I am going to slow down and recognize that the patient is probably a lot more lost and frustrated than I am and deserves for me to treat him with the same dignity of every other patient gets who interacts "normally".

bobross · Mar 11, 2014

blackribbon said:
I know those songs without having to play them. I don't think people realize how isolating no hearing can be. We get so much information through our ears. When people start to lose their hearing, people just quit trying to communicate anymore ... often making decisions without consulting the deaf person. This not only removes social interaction but robs a person of the dignity of being a thinking adult.

I am glad Dan was able to help me rethink how I treat deaf patients. Instead of being frustrated and limited on how I can care for this patient, I am going to slow down and recognize that the patient is probably a lot more lost and frustrated than I am and deserves for me to treat him with the same dignity of every other patient gets who interacts "normally".

That's cool. I don't listen to country music so I had never heard them. After he posted the last one somebody quoted him and said "lol a lot" and he never posted there again. People are so rude around here. I agree that we sometimes treat deaf people like they are stupid or like a child. It's not fair and I can see how it would cause them to feel like their dignity is lost.

I need to think about the way I treat people with disabilities also. I can't imagine what it would be like to be deaf or blind or bedridden. It has to be so frustrating. I have been blessed.

blackribbon · Mar 11, 2014

I think that hating country music is a form of snobbery that I haven't ever got. I know several and yet the music they do like isn't that much different. Often the only difference is that country has a very definite rhythm that allows people to dance to it...couples dance, not wiggling at the same time dancing.

I think the following song is the definition of what we should hope people see us as Christians to be...we need to love people like Jesus does...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EjN4m1jPZ0

dustinthewind · Mar 11, 2014

memoriesbymichelle said:
I'm glad for you too! I am glad to have known him even if it was only online. I feel like I lost a good friend.

thanks memoriesbymichelle!

that is a crazy nice fish. wonder where he caught it? might have to steer the carrier that way haha

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