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Religious Leaders Strive to Explain Tsunami

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In one modern view, he said, God does not interfere in the affairs of his creation. Disasters like the tsunami occur for the natural reasons scientists say they do.





"This is not something that God has done. God hasn't picked out a certain group of people in a certain area of the world and said: 'I am going to punish them,"' he said.
I agree with this guy and because nature is unpredictable we should be prepared. "Now is the accepted time, now is the day of salvation". God could have prevented it, but didn't therefore he allowed nature to run it's course...
 
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a warning system would've been a waste of money. The last time a tsunami happened in the Indian Ocean was in the mid-1500's. Most of that region can't afford to spend millions warning about something that happens once in a millennium. And Sumatra, Malaysia and the tip of Thailand are so narrow that everything's near the ocean.

Trying to explain whether or why God did or allowed this is like trying to explain the same thing to a parent who has lost a child: useless and rude.
 
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goodgirl said:
a warning system would've been a waste of money. The last time a tsunami happened in the Indian Ocean was in the mid-1500's. Most of that region can't afford to spend millions warning about something that happens once in a millennium. And Sumatra, Malaysia and the tip of Thailand are so narrow that everything's near the ocean.

Trying to explain whether or why God did or allowed this is like trying to explain the same thing to a parent who has lost a child: useless and rude.
There was one in 1883 according to Wilkipedia:

"The last tsunami near Sumatra, on the Indian Ocean side and western end of Indonesia, was caused by the eruption of Krakatoa in 1883. So the death toll of the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake may be particularly high since this is the first large Indian Ocean tsunami to strike land in 100 years, leaving the affected countries unprepared and the people unable to recognise the telltale signs of an approaching tsunami."
 
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Nathan Poe said:
So those peopel deserved a tsunami? That must have been some sin...


I'm sorry, Someone must of hacked the post of mine that you read, and then re-edited after that.

I never said any one Deserved what happend.

It's just that it IS a result of living in a fallen world.
 
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I see it as a test, both for those who experienced it, and for those of us thousands of miles away watching. How do people react when they lose everything? And how do we react when we see others suffering?
 
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Nathan Poe said:
So those peopel deserved a tsunami? That must have been some sin...
we as sinners deserve far, far worse. for the penalty of sin is death. but jesus was sent to let us live agian when all things are finished. and through the grace of god we are made whole agian.


and as christians we are also called to help those in need. not for a chance to convert but to show the compassion, we are to show to fellow man and let that person decide if the "god that the christian follows is the one for him to follow" christians are called to be good people only god can call if some one is to follow him.
 
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rahma said:
I see it as a test, both for those who experienced it, and for those of us thousands of miles away watching. How do people react when they lose everything? And how do we react when we see others suffering?

i see it as more then a test i see it as a great warning of the times to come.
 
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E_Powers said:
i see it as more then a test i see it as a great warning of the times to come.

Well then, that would be because you have a different religious background from me. I get my view from the Qur'an, as such:

And we will surely test you with some fear, hunger and shortages of property, people and produce. But give good tidings to the steadfast. Those who, when a calamity befalls them say: "We belong to Allah and to Him we return." Upon these are prayers from their Lord and mercy and these are the rightly-guided ones
Al-Baqarah: 155-157
 
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rahma said:
Well then, that would be because you have a different religious background from me. I get my view from the Qur'an, as such:

And we will surely test you with some fear, hunger and shortages of property, people and produce. But give good tidings to the steadfast. Those who, when a calamity befalls them say: "We belong to Allah and to Him we return." Upon these are prayers from their Lord and mercy and these are the rightly-guided ones
Al-Baqarah: 155-157
it basically is the same as the christian beleif that in good times and bad we should not forsake god and blame him for bad events for they are a part of life.
and when when turmoil is over one will have more then what one had lost both in materiel and in wisdom
 
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pgp_protector said:
God Gave man a perfict world

Man said I want more & runied perfication with Sin

We now live with the mess we caused.
I don't remember being given that option. I had a choice to live in paradise but I ruined it with sin? I would think i would remember something like that.
 
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...the earth's crust shifted and moved, the energy was transmitted to the water, which caused a wave which moved along at 500 mph; when the wave approached a shallow shore the wave got bigger and the resulting tsunami killed 100,000 people.

It's like asking, "why did four hurricanes hit Florida"? Because the water temperatures in the Atlantic and Caribbean basin were above normal and the wind conditions were just right.

The better questions to ask are, "Why did all those people build their houses along the shore when they knew there was a risk of tsunamis?" and "Why did developers build hotels and resorts along shores where tsunamis are known to happen?"
 
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Grizzly said:
I don't remember being given that option. I had a choice to live in paradise but I ruined it with sin? I would think i would remember something like that.
he was refering to the human species as a whole. in the bible we were originally in the garden of eden and went through life like children. then man ate fruit and got wise. fruit that god said not to eat.

you can take this metaphorically or literally. but you got to admit as time progressed we have gotten more and more knowledable. and yet more and more stupid through the eons
 
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UberLutheran said:
...the earth's crust shifted and moved, the energy was transmitted to the water, which caused a wave which moved along at 500 mph; when the wave approached a shallow shore the wave got bigger and the resulting tsunami killed 100,000 people.

It's like asking, "why did four hurricanes hit Florida"? Because the water temperatures in the Atlantic and Caribbean basin were above normal and the wind conditions were just right.

The better questions to ask are, "Why did all those people build their houses along the shore when they knew there was a risk of tsunamis?" and "Why did developers build hotels and resorts along shores where tsunamis are known to happen?"
my ferverant belief is not that god does not cause disasters but he does remove his protective hand.

explain with science how a church chior whose members are hardly ever late all find them selves late to chior practice. the very day their church blows up from a gass leak and all arive at the same time to find nobody paraished?
 
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"You knew this was a tsunami-prone area, and yet you built houses and developments and hotels and recreational areas along the shore. What exactly were you thinking when you built all of this by a seashore knowing a tsunami could happen? I gave you people brains, intelligence and common sense: I expect you to use them!"
 
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