Religious intolerance :(

Rastaman · Jul 12, 2007

I have just come here and found a thread about Rastafari, once I start to explain the truth about what and how it goes etc, they have now closed the thread.

It was alright before when those writing on it could say what they like and be absolutely wrong, but from when I came on the board and started to clarify how things are they first, deleted my post and now have closed the thread stating this forum is not the place to discuss Rastafari. Oh yeah but its ok to talk about the muslim the jew the hindu or the Jedi.

But you are not aloud to speak or they cut you of..

Whats the point!

universalmessenger · Jul 12, 2007

who's rastafari and what did he do? dang. he must've done something bc they let u talk about everything here. not unless they wanted u to move the conversation to another forum or something. idk. i'm new here also. but i do see favoritism a lot. and what's so funny the entire time they're sitting there BSing u and playing favorites they expect u not to have the plain simple common sense to see it. LOL! as if people r dimwits and blind to something so apparent. lol!

universalmessenger · Jul 12, 2007

guess what i heard. one of the mods informed me that our pms were public knowledge due to a new rule change or something. i don't know if this was suppose to b a threat or something but in response i said "Wow that's great!" So let me b the first to take ADVANTAGE OF OUR NEW FOUND FREEDOMS. PPL enjoy.

universalmessenger said:
now i don't know if this was some kind of threat but will u do as i requested and follow through on UR OWN SUGGESTION and make this PM public knowledge plz??? ty.

universalmessenger said:

ok. and??? i'm not upset. u closed down another thread due to favoritism. no big deal. it will only surprise me on the day u make an impartial judgment for a change. just don't spit ur BS at me. like i said go to Snowbunny. but what i want to know, since u refuse to do anything about the fact that's she's harassing me in my threads, is if i put Snowbunny on ignore like u suggest will that keep her out of my threads wit the flaming that u were wrongfully accusing me of? and also refuse to do anything about, btw.

if that will solve my problems trust and believe i won't waste my time dealing wit any of the likes of u again. in my PMS i never said Snowbunny or anybody for that matter was going to hell. so i don't get ur point or what ur trying to imply. i just want bigots (those that can b irrational and ignorant or those that think they r wise and play favorites) to leave me alone. that's it.

oh and go ahead. plz make this pm public knowledge. lol. i dare u. in fact i will do it for u if need b. this pm and my other pms said the exact same thing after u shut down the thread. i stated that the mods play favorites. i don't think the majority will disagree. lol. peace.

Adiya said:

Hello dear,

I'm sorry that you're so upset. I am requesting that you put Snowbunny on ignore, please. Also, I would like to give you a gentle reminder that your PM's are put in the report for your thread closing, and because of our new restructuring, they are available for public reading. I didn't want you to be unaware.

Have a blessed day.

In Christ's love,
Adiya
supervisor, debate team

universalmessenger said:

oh ok i get the off topic part. i didn't know that about the apologetic thread. but it wasn't me that was flaming. and u know this. it was one of ur favorites. Snowbunny. so plz don't try to sit here and blame me or accuse me of her actions. even though i doubt this will happen. maybe u should try to address the guilty party and probably try to reexplain those rules to her and not me. bc i ain't listening. none of that stuff came out of my mouth. and again u already know this. so i suggest that u spit ur lectures and ur BS to the right person and stop wasting my time plz. ty. peace.

Adiya said:

Dear UniversalMessenger,

Hello, my name is Adiya and I'm a Supervisor for the Debate Team. I hope you are enjoying our forums.

I am writing to let you know that the Debate Team has closed your topic and it will remain closed because it is off topic to the forum and it is flaming.

Here is your topic:
wwooowwwww.... all i can say is wwwoooowww
http://www.christianforums.com/t5671744

You had posted it in the Non-Christian Religion area, and because it's about the Pope of the Catholic Church, that makes it both a flame and off topic.

Because it appears that you wish to debate the position of the Catholic Church and/or the Pope's importance, I would suggest that in the future, you post these things in the General Apologetics forum which you will find in the Debate Area. However I would also ask that you please try to be mindful of the No Flaming rule.

I'll post a copy of the No Flaming Rule as it is currently written.

2.1 No Flaming

Members should not insult another member with a personal attack. Such behavior would include personally defamatory comments or inflammatory accusations, even if they are believed to be true. Categorically stating that somebody is destined for hell is also considered to be flaming.

This does not mean that criticizing another person's beliefs is the same as flaming. For instance, saying an idea is non-bliblical is not the same as saying that a member is non-Christian or follows non-biblical beliefs.

As a general rule, when in doubt, assume good faith on the part of the other poster.

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If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me. I am most happy to help.

In Christ's Love,
Adiya

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universalmessenger · Jul 12, 2007

people understand i posted this pm to make others consciously aware of the situation in this forum. hoping that if we take a stand then maybe some things will change for the better. however i DID NOT do this to start a flaming war, or to trade insults back in forth. but there is no way i should b held responsible for someone else's actions or penalized while the guilty party continues to get away scott free. so that's y i'm posting this pm for others to see. ty.

universalmessenger · Jul 12, 2007

so ppl share ur views but keep it nice. ty.

sarvak · Jul 12, 2007

peter22 said:
I'm faintly disturbed at how intolerant *certain* Christians (and other faiths, but this is a Christian board, so that's my focus) are towards other beliefs. At least agnostics have the honesty to say, "I don't really know."

Why would religious faiths be intolerant to other religious faiths that promote the same goodness? If it is good, then it should be indeed tolerated. Those who do otherwise have ignorance which is my only conclusion.

Sarva Mangalam.

universalmessenger · Jul 12, 2007

sarvak said:
Why would religious faiths be intolerant to other religious faiths that promote the same goodness? If it is good, then it should be indeed tolerated. Those who do otherwise have ignorance which is my only conclusion.

Sarva Mangalam.

ty. well spoken.

universalmessenger · Jul 12, 2007

here goes another pm that might interest ppl. this is one from the closing mod.

universalmessenger said:
well she stated that specifically in the thread. she said i'm calling u a bigot and i'm flaming so they could get rid of me. she was trying to get it shut down. and my understanding of it being a non-christian thread is that u can speak on issues that disagree wit the mainstream concepts of Chirstianity. in the chrisitan forum u have to accept the written doctrine here u do not. that was my understanding and it was also stated in the rules. maybe that's changed.

ForHisGlory said:

universalmessenger said:

yes i know. bc of snowbunny. i did report her but my thread got shut down anyways. she was the only one flaming that's y i asked. she said she purposely did that in order to get it shut down. but i had done nothing, intentionally, to provoke her. this is a non-Christan religion forum. so my topic fit the discussion. i guess she had a personal problem with that. however, i did not take it personally and i successfully kept the situation from escalating. so i don't see y u felt the need to shut down my thread. i was trying to figure this out. is there anybody i could appeal to?

ForHisGlory said:

universalmessenger said:

ForHisGlory said:

Hi universalmessenger. I Closed your thread wwooowwwww.... all i can say is wwwoooowww on 07-11-2007. Please reply to this PM if you have any questions.

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y? snowbunny keeps attacking me and stalking me and harassing me. and i took care of the situation in that thread.

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There's a note at the end on the Mod Hat, And as for snowbunny...you can report her for harassment now per the new rules.
We'll PM you with what we'll be doing with the thread, either moving it or keeping it closed. Right now there are many flames in it.

I'm off to church so will let you know when I know what we'll be doing
Take Care
FHG
Supervisor

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The shutting down of a thread while it's being reviewed or cleaned up is not appealiable. Also..your topic was about Catholics..non a non-Christian religion. I'm sure if you go to the Catholic area you'll see the same.
Also, if the thread is reopened after all the flames are cleaned, it will be moved to the Catholic area, and the main post will also have to be edited due to the Copywrite Rules.
If you have a post or PM from snowbunny stating thats what she did please report it.
I can't tell you anything else at this point until the team has decided what to do..and I just walked in, so I haven't even been there yet.

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universalmessenger · Jul 12, 2007

isn't public access great!

universalmessenger · Jul 12, 2007

hum??? and i'm wondering in my entire conversation where did i get ignorant and scream and shout and make those crazy accusations that somebody was going to hell... like what the last mod had accused me of.

universalmessenger · Jul 12, 2007

believe me none of the conversation was edited out. i'm sure these pms will be in their public report completely unrevised just like they had promised me. i wonder what else i can dig up???

universalmessenger · Jul 12, 2007

this is the last of it. ppl enjoy.

universalmessenger said:
ok i see u r an administer. i do not know how the chain of commandment works around here bc i am new to these threads. but there is a young lady by the name of Snowbunny who comes into my threads and starts flaming me and others in order to get my threads shut down. like she did here http://www.christianforums.com/t5671744-wwooowwwww-all-i-can-say-is-wwwoooowww.html

the supervising mods have closed down 2 of my threads without reviewing the evidence and I am the one reporting her. this is a pm from ForHisGlory the mod who shut down my most recent thread. i don't know if there will b a different outcome from seeking out ur help. but i would like some justice to b served plz. ty.

Re: Your thread - wwooowwwww.... all i can say is wwwoooowww - was Closed on 07-11-2007

yes i know. bc of snowbunny. i did report her but my thread got shut down anyways. she was the only one flaming that's y i asked. she said she purposely did that in order to get it shut down. but i had done nothing, intentionally, to provoke her. this is a non-Christan religion forum. so my topic fit the discussion. i guess she had a personal problem with that. however, i did not take it personally and i successfully kept the situation from escalating. so i don't see y u felt the need to shut down my thread. i was trying to figure this out. is there anybody i could appeal to?

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Originally Posted by universalmessenger
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Originally Posted by ForHisGlory
Hi universalmessenger. I Closed your thread wwooowwwww.... all i can say is wwwoooowww on 07-11-2007. Please reply to this PM if you have any questions.

y? snowbunny keeps attacking me and stalking me and harassing me. and i took care of the situation in that thread.

There's a note at the end on the Mod Hat, And as for snowbunny...you can report her for harassment now per the new rules.
We'll PM you with what we'll be doing with the thread, either moving it or keeping it closed. Right now there are many flames in it.

I'm off to church so will let you know when I know what we'll be doing
Take Care
FHG
Supervisor

universalmessenger · Jul 12, 2007

u can only guess the outcome right??? i can only suggest that people of this caliber borrow a highlighter from somebody and look these verses up (I'm assuming u haven't visited ur Bibles in a long time, that is if u've ever seen the inside of one):

John 3:20
Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.

1 Corinthians 4:5
.....She will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of people's hearts. At that time she will receive her praise from GOD. (this is just to be funny!!!)

Ephesians 5:13
But everything exposed by the light becomes visible,

hmmm.... i wonder what that makes me??? LOL. peace.

universalmessenger · Jul 12, 2007

hey i just got an idea. i should add this to my religious bigotry thread! i wonder how people would vote.... in anonymity???

Ramona · Jul 12, 2007

UniversalMessenger, what is the point of all of your recent posts here? This thread isn't a thread in which to call negative attention to other members. It's an interesting OP, so can we please get back on topic?

universalmessenger · Jul 12, 2007

what's OP mean?

universalmessenger · Jul 12, 2007

i'm done venting i just had to stress a point.

universalmessenger · Jul 12, 2007

i do NOT like being accused or held responsible for someone else's dirt and it's ridiculous that they tried to play me like that when i had done nothing wrong. so i had to make a point. if their rule is that they don't tolerate flaming from others then y r they expecting me to? bc i don't. and i won't. and threats won't work to keep me quiet either. lol. but that doesn't mean i have to resort to that level in order to get my point across.... but i do have other ways. best believe that. lol.

Ramona · Jul 12, 2007

universalmessenger said:
what's OP mean?

Original post.

universalmessenger said:
i'm done venting i just had to stress a point.

What was your point? It looks to me like one long rant about another member.

I'll be the first to admit that I do not agree with Snowbunny's theological views at all. However, one CAN separate theology from friendship, and she and I have done so. She's a kind-hearted and wonderful person whom I happen to disagree with (sometimes vehemently) on a theological level. I really wish you'd try to separate her beliefs from her personality here.

I also think it's kind of rude to copy and post private messages in threads without the other party's permission.

Ramona · Jul 12, 2007

universalmessenger said:
i do NOT like being accused or held responsible for someone else's dirt and it's ridiculous that they tried to play me like that when i had done nothing wrong. so i had to make a point. if their rule is that they don't tolerate flaming from others then y r they expecting me to? bc i don't. and i won't. and threats won't work to keep me quiet either. lol. but that doesn't mean i have to resort to that level in order to get my point across.... but i do have other ways. best believe that. lol.

Okay, now I'm REALLY confused. Why has a legitimate thread been turned into a thread in which to bash other members?

If someone is harassing you, it's better PM the moderators and report the person instead of harrassing him or her back.

Religious intolerance :(

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