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This coming from a 19 year old LOLApart from being condescending, to say the least, your ageism here is worthy of reprimand. You assume that someone who is young is naturally inclined to hold particular views, and that by your age, every 'normal' person will have adjusted accordingly and accepted your supposed wisdom. I say that this very assumption shows a lack of wisdom on your part. In a discussion, such as this one, age does not matter. It is the argument alone that is important - its validity, its soundness, its cogency. Youth does not excuse us from making a bad argument anymore than older age excuses you for ignoring good arguments made by persons younger than yourself.
This coming from a 19 year old LOL
Life's a beach? I've heard it pronounced differently....Let me tell you young men a story.
A young Marine looked over the front ramp of the landing craft, as it took him to the beach. ***yada yada yada***
Life's a beach.
That's such a crock and a cop-out. You may or may not have more experience than the guys you won't deign to converse with. You really don't know how much or how little experience of the world they have. Nor do any of us know that about you. It's been known to happen that some people misrepresent their age; others have several socks of varying ages.A more direct answer to you query:
All reasoning is presuppositional.
The errors of youth are not necessarily logical errors but a lack of context, a narrowness of perspective and a poverty of experience.
I once asked my grandson what he was learning in school. "Counting", he said. "How high can you count?", I asked. He looked at me like I was stupid and said, "all the way". "All the way to what?" I pressed on. "All the way to a hundred, Papa. All the way to a hundred."
He had no idea that there was so much more. He was young, and so are you. There is so much more to the workings of society than a twenty something can even begin to imagin.
Btw one thing that sets us apart from other species as human beings. We tend to own things or stuff. I am not in this for the argument sake, my friend, however; I point out, how can you know more about God than say a follower of Christ......? All this is about is, where the heart lies.(in how you chose to live) One difference between a non-believer and myself is, I know I can be evil and I seek to know my sinful ways. And I try to yoke myself to the likes of God, who is essences is love.And what do you worship, but a god of your own making? For all your talk of the wickedness of man, did you not shape your god in your own image? Do you not picture him as a member of your race and nationality?
The myth of man being at heart wicked was just a petty attempt to control mankind by the kings and priests.
Psychoanalyze?The mind of man is delusional and it takes one to know how to physio analysis (from within)
Yes, especially when he wasn't always.his or hers perception and perspectives. Can a person know he is insane?
Patience, talk, demonstrations, therapy - but the insane one must be open to it and willing to see.How can anyone enlighten the insane?
Depends on the drunk, but yeah.Can you rationalize with a drunk?
One Christmas, my brother and his dog were visiting my parents and their dog. Each dog definitely owned his toys; they both knew what was whose.BTW for you Atheists one thing that sets us apart for other species is we own things!
Petty? Are you kidding? It was grand!The myth of man being at heart wicked was just a petty attempt to control mankind by the kings and priests.
Life does NOT presuppose a full knowledge of all contexts.A more direct answer to you query:
All reasoning is presuppositional.
The errors of youth are not necessarily logical errors but a lack of context, a narrowness of perspective and a poverty of experience.
I once asked my grandson what he was learning in school. "Counting", he said. "How high can you count?", I asked. He looked at me like I was stupid and said, "all the way". "All the way to what?" I pressed on. "All the way to a hundred, Papa. All the way to a hundred."
He had no idea that there was so much more. He was young, and so are you. There is so much more to the workings of society than a twenty something can even begin to imagin.
Being poor is the choice of sinners.
If they want to stop being poor, they need to stop with their criminal adictions, come to christ, get educated and get a job. Its not that hard people.
MarkSB said:Do you see the difference? What I posted could be used at bible study, what you posted belongs at a political rally.
I wouldn't take Hans' posts at face value.Did you make this statement in sobriety, or without the least bit of resentment or frustration?
Because if you did.
Well.
A more direct answer to you query:
All reasoning is presuppositional.
The errors of youth are not necessarily logical errors but a lack of context, a narrowness of perspective and a poverty of experience.
Hans Talhoffer said:Art Vandelay said:Apart from being condescending, to say the least, your ageism here is worthy of reprimand. You assume that someone who is young is naturally inclined to hold particular views, and that by your age, every 'normal' person will have adjusted accordingly and accepted your supposed wisdom. I say that this very assumption shows a lack of wisdom on your part. In a discussion, such as this one, age does not matter. It is the argument alone that is important - its validity, its soundness, its cogency. Youth does not excuse us from making a bad argument anymore than older age excuses you for ignoring good arguments made by persons younger than yourself.
This coming from a 19 year old LOL
I think what most people find offensive in the OP is the "I'm Godly, you're not" attitude.
Perhaps a lot of people do, but the OP contends that all people who advocate government welfare are envious of him and trying to take what he has. Besides being pretty puffed up about his lot in life, he fails to understand that well-off people also sincerely think the government has a better ability do deal with large scale need efficiently and do not grudge the taxes we pay that does benefit those less well-off than ourselves.
Yeah, probably because of his holier than thou attitude. Most people will never respond well to that.
He goes further than that - he impugns people's motives for using the government to clothe the naked, feed the hungry, house the homeless and educate the ignorant - he says we do it out of envy of people like him - which just isn't true and doesn't make sense.
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