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<blockquote data-quote="ViaCrucis" data-source="post: 68637037" data-attributes="member: 293637"><p>For the sake of clarification: the Roman Catholic Church doesn't accept reincarnation. What was mentioned earlier wasn't a branch of Catholicism but a break-away group. </p><p></p><p>In the 1800s there was a schism that occurred when a number of Catholics considered it heretical to say that the Pope was infallible when speaking ex cathedra; and this led to the formation of what are known as the Old Catholic Churches, most of whom were from the Netherlands. They are also known as the Ultrajectine Churches. </p><p></p><p>What was mentioned, if I recall correctly, was the Liberal Catholic Church (the LCC), here is how Wikipedia describes its founding:</p><p></p><p>"<em>The founding bishops of the Liberal Catholic churches were J. I. Wedgwood of the Wedgwood China family and the Theosophist Charles Webster Leadbeater. Wedgwood was a former Anglican priest who left the Anglican church on becoming a theosophist in 1904. After serving in several high offices in the Theosophical Society, including being general secretary of the society in England and Wales from 1911 to 1913, he was ordained as a priest in the Old Catholic movement on July 22, 1913, by Arnold Harris Mathew. Matthew in turn was a former Roman Catholic priest who had left to be ordained as a bishop in the Old Catholic Church, which had separated from papal authority in 1873 over the issue of papal infallibility. The Old Catholics maintained that their ordinations were valid within the Catholic tradition, and the Liberal Catholic Church thus claims to trace its apostolic succession back to Rome through Old Catholicism.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>In 1915 Wedgwood visited Australia in his capacity as Grand Secretary of the Order of Universal CoMasonry (a Co-Freemasonry organisation based loosely on Freemasonry, but consisting of mixed-sex lodges), another of the organisations in which he was prominent. On his return to England he learned that Frederick Samuel Willoughby, a bishop of the Old Catholic Church of Britain, had become enmeshed in a homosexuality scandal and as a result had been suspended by Archbishop Mathew. He also learned that Mathew wanted all the clergy of the church to renounce Theosophy on the grounds that the beliefs of the Church and the Society were incompatible. Shortly afterwards Archbishop Mathew dissolved the Old Catholic Church in Great Britain and published a letter in The Times announcing his intention to return to the Roman Catholic Church.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Few bothered to reply to Mathew. Bishop Willoughby offered to consecrate Wedgwood to the episcopate, but Wedgwood approached a number of other bishops seeking consecration, including the Old Catholic Archbishop of Utrecht Gerardus Gul (by whom Mathew had originally been consecrated), Bishop Frederick James, a fellow Theosophist. Eventually, Wedgwood was consecrated as a bishop by Bishop Willoughby on 13 February 1916 with Bishop King and Bishop Gauntlett assisting.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>With the Old Catholics continuing to disapprove of Mathews' creation in Britain, Wedgwood started the organisation that would later become the Liberal Catholic Church, of which he became the first Presiding Bishop. At the same time he maintained his close connections with the Theosophical movement, and many of Wedgwood's priests and bishops were simultaneously Theosophists.</em>"</p><p></p><p>So not only is the LCC not a branch of Catholicism, it's a break-away group from a break-away group that had as part of its foundation, in part, Theosophy.</p><p></p><p>-CryptoLutheran</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ViaCrucis, post: 68637037, member: 293637"] For the sake of clarification: the Roman Catholic Church doesn't accept reincarnation. What was mentioned earlier wasn't a branch of Catholicism but a break-away group. In the 1800s there was a schism that occurred when a number of Catholics considered it heretical to say that the Pope was infallible when speaking ex cathedra; and this led to the formation of what are known as the Old Catholic Churches, most of whom were from the Netherlands. They are also known as the Ultrajectine Churches. What was mentioned, if I recall correctly, was the Liberal Catholic Church (the LCC), here is how Wikipedia describes its founding: "[I]The founding bishops of the Liberal Catholic churches were J. I. Wedgwood of the Wedgwood China family and the Theosophist Charles Webster Leadbeater. Wedgwood was a former Anglican priest who left the Anglican church on becoming a theosophist in 1904. After serving in several high offices in the Theosophical Society, including being general secretary of the society in England and Wales from 1911 to 1913, he was ordained as a priest in the Old Catholic movement on July 22, 1913, by Arnold Harris Mathew. Matthew in turn was a former Roman Catholic priest who had left to be ordained as a bishop in the Old Catholic Church, which had separated from papal authority in 1873 over the issue of papal infallibility. The Old Catholics maintained that their ordinations were valid within the Catholic tradition, and the Liberal Catholic Church thus claims to trace its apostolic succession back to Rome through Old Catholicism. In 1915 Wedgwood visited Australia in his capacity as Grand Secretary of the Order of Universal CoMasonry (a Co-Freemasonry organisation based loosely on Freemasonry, but consisting of mixed-sex lodges), another of the organisations in which he was prominent. On his return to England he learned that Frederick Samuel Willoughby, a bishop of the Old Catholic Church of Britain, had become enmeshed in a homosexuality scandal and as a result had been suspended by Archbishop Mathew. He also learned that Mathew wanted all the clergy of the church to renounce Theosophy on the grounds that the beliefs of the Church and the Society were incompatible. Shortly afterwards Archbishop Mathew dissolved the Old Catholic Church in Great Britain and published a letter in The Times announcing his intention to return to the Roman Catholic Church. Few bothered to reply to Mathew. Bishop Willoughby offered to consecrate Wedgwood to the episcopate, but Wedgwood approached a number of other bishops seeking consecration, including the Old Catholic Archbishop of Utrecht Gerardus Gul (by whom Mathew had originally been consecrated), Bishop Frederick James, a fellow Theosophist. Eventually, Wedgwood was consecrated as a bishop by Bishop Willoughby on 13 February 1916 with Bishop King and Bishop Gauntlett assisting. With the Old Catholics continuing to disapprove of Mathews' creation in Britain, Wedgwood started the organisation that would later become the Liberal Catholic Church, of which he became the first Presiding Bishop. At the same time he maintained his close connections with the Theosophical movement, and many of Wedgwood's priests and bishops were simultaneously Theosophists.[/I]" So not only is the LCC not a branch of Catholicism, it's a break-away group from a break-away group that had as part of its foundation, in part, Theosophy. -CryptoLutheran [/QUOTE]
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