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The only way you could go in as an officer is if you already have a bachlors degree,
One of my teachers is a vietnam veteran. If you must be trained in a combat position , but don't wanna fight, join something like airforce, or navy, or a maybe coast guard.
Very true. And just for the record, any Marine worth their boots would tell you that their best friend in combat is their "Doc".While I understand that there is a rivalry between services to imply that only the Army and Marines are involved in combat is really insulting. While the coast guard may be state side they do put themselves in harms way quite often. Even during peacetime.
yup...they doMy 18-year-old cousin is refusing to register for civil service because he is anti-war and would refuse to fight. They are sending him some very threatening letters, which scare me but don't seem to phase him in the slightest. Do they really jail guys who don't register?
I like coasties...they take care of biz at homeWhile I understand that there is a rivalry between services to imply that only the Army and Marines are involved in combat is really insulting. While the coast guard may be state side they do put themselves in harms way quite often. Even during peacetime.
Very true. And just for the record, any Marine worth their boots would tell you that their best friend in combat is their "Doc".
Corpsman UP!!
I don't think this is correct, with all due respect. One of my ex-boyfriends (still a dear friend) has joined the Military and is still going to college... they're paying for all 4 years and then he has to serve for a couple of years. I know a few other friends who have also signed up for service and are finishing their degrees and then serving. They often are obtaining a degree which will help them do their jobs better, so I think it would be in the Military's best interest to have their get their education.I did AFROTC and you could just join, it is definatly preferable to have a scholarship but not required. Google the draft sometime and you will find the 1 semester requirement, they dont just let a freshman get out of the draft for 4 to 5 years to finish school, if you were a junior you might be able to apply to extend out to graduation but as a freshman you will be drafted.
I had a lengthy discussion with a young man online about joining the military and the draft.
Now personally the draft makes me nervous, however likely or unlikely it is.
So what is the possible punishment if I am drafted and I refuse to fight?
There won't be a draft... nobody would stand for it at all. Honestly, I doubt that it will happen in the near future... maybe as things change, but even then I think that's the last thing the government wants to do.
Historygeek said:Robert Hinlein had some good ideas concerning the military in his novel "Starship Troopers". First,nobody started their careers as an officer- all officers earned their way up from the enlisted ranks. Ssecond, service was strictly voluntary, but nobody got the right to vote, or any other citizenship rights, until they had served(disabled people could be exempt from the military, but had to do some other federal service to qualify).only about five percent of the military were officers, thus eliminating the top-heavy brass.
i think federal service being mandatory for citizenship has merit. people would take citizenship a lot more seriously if they had to earn it. it would also be one hell of an incentive for people to sign up, if they wanted their voices in the government
You can go to college while in the military but it can be extremely difficult because your military dutys come before your education (unless your national guard then its a different story, but even with the guard there are monitary caps per credit hour and certian things do not qualify). The only exception is a program in which the military allows you to go to school full time but you must serve 1-2 years for every year of school the military pays for in addition to your initial service commitment, I would hardly call that a deal. So yes you are correct, however, everything is at the discression of the military when you take that route.I don't think this is correct, with all due respect. One of my ex-boyfriends (still a dear friend) has joined the Military and is still going to college... they're paying for all 4 years and then he has to serve for a couple of years. I know a few other friends who have also signed up for service and are finishing their degrees and then serving. They often are obtaining a degree which will help them do their jobs better, so I think it would be in the Military's best interest to have their get their education.
One point I think that needs to be brought up is that non-combatant positions are positions where you will not kill, not necessarily positions where you will not be be killed. Remember, a conscientious objector is someone who refused to fight because he believes that war, all war, is wrong, not because he's afraid of getting hurt.
Also, the only non-combatant positions that I'm aware of are chaplains, chaplain's assistants, medical personell, and file clerks. Other support troops (e.g. mechanics, truck drivers, cooks) are legitimate targets under the Geneva convention.
I think that would be really silly to have to serve in the military to be able to vote. Who do you think builds the machinery that the military uses .... civilian contractors, so should the people that enable to military to do its job not be able to vote or do we just have all the handicap people build tanks and fighter jets. Thats the most nonsence I have heard in a while.Robert Hinlein had some good ideas concerning the military in his novel "Starship Troopers". First,nobody started their careers as an officer- all officers earned their way up from the enlisted ranks. Ssecond, service was strictly voluntary, but nobody got the right to vote, or any other citizenship rights, until they had served(disabled people could be exempt from the military, but had to do some other federal service to qualify).only about five percent of the military were officers, thus eliminating the top-heavy brass.
i think federal service being mandatory for citizenship has merit. people would take citizenship a lot more seriously if they had to earn it. it would also be one hell of an incentive for people to sign up, if they wanted their voices in the government
Refusing to fight in the military does not equate to having nothing to which you are willing to fight for.War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.
John Stuart Mill
English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)
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