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Reflection: Praying like a cloistered soul

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Hi all,

I wonder how cloistered nuns and monks pray all day? What is their secret? Obviously, they have Holy Mass and the Liturgy of the Hours AKA Divine Office, but what about private prayer?

Thoughts?

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For the nun herself, the word of God instructs and nourishes private prayer and all her daily activities. The most favorable hours of the day, apart from the Divine Office, are reserved for Lectio Divina, or the prayerful reading of Holy Scripture, the Church Fathers, and the doctrines and lives of the saints.
 
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I found this:

For the nun herself, the word of God instructs and nourishes private prayer and all her daily activities. The most favorable hours of the day, apart from the Divine Office, are reserved for Lectio Divina, or the prayerful reading of Holy Scripture, the Church Fathers, and the doctrines and lives of the saints.
That sounds very nice!
I tend to use the sign of the cross as a prayer throughout the day whenever the body signals drift my focus from God.
Fantastic! That's something I should practice more often as well.
 
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Hi all,

I wonder how cloistered nuns and monks pray all day?
@RileyG

Their secret is that they have been called by God to a life a prayer.
And when God calls us to an assignment or ministry, He equips us for it.

In the Bible, we are all commanded to pray. But some persons are additionally called by God to the ministry of intercession (prayer). And while we usually just think of nuns and monks when we think of intercessors, many intercessors are regular folks like you and I, who live out in the real world and have been called by God to minister in prayer for others.

Lived out in the world, the ministry of intercession is often a private one, not one that many others will see or even know about. The ones called to this kind of ministry won't be applauded or honored by the world, nor will they be seeking that kind of personal glory or recognition. Persons called to this ministry love God and the things that are important to Him, often the salvation of souls. They aren't seeking personal glory for themselves, but rather the glory of God.

Intercessors are often compassionate persons, able to empathize for others who are suffering, even persons they do not personally know. They will sometimes just sense 'a burden' to pray for someone, not always even knowing what is the need. That is because it is often God who will put the burden to pray on the heart of the intercessor.

In His Divine Providence, God arranges for the intercessor's 'station in life' to be one conducive to his spending time alone with God in prayer. The intercessor with find himself with the time and opportunity in his schedule to pray. And not all prayer is vocal. Sometimes an intercessor will just sense a desire to sit in silent prayer alone with God.

The ministry of intercession is a ministry of the Holy Spirit. He is the One Who will teach and guide and develop the intercessor into this ministry. All that is needed on the part of the intercessor is the willingness to say 'yes', and the obedience to pray as the Spirit of God leads.

Reading good books on prayer can be helpful. I could, but won't, recommend some since the ones I'm familiar with have been written by Protestants. But I would think that our brother fide might have some helpful insights to share on this subject from a more Catholic perspective. And JimR-OCDS, as a Secular Order Carmelite, may also have some insight to share when he returns to the forum at the close of Lent. Many called to the ministry of intercession join Third Orders or become oblates. It becomes their calling ...

:rose:St. Therese of Lisieux was not a very physically healthy young woman, but she never stopped praying. She prayed from her sickbed for others. Her life is a beautiful example of one called to the ministry of intercession.

God bless you, Riley.
 
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Basically, everything a cloistered nun does is an act of prayer.
That makes much sense! We have a few cloistered monasteries in my state, including 2 in my diocese. I’m so grateful for their constant prayers!
 
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Thank you
You're welcome. :blush:

Sometimes when we think of ministry, and especially a ministry of prayer, I think many of us tend to think of the spiritual giants like St. Therese, Teresa of Avila, John of the Cross, etc. And they are wonderful examples for us. But God uses more than just 'the giants' to accomplish His purposes. (And isn't that a good thing, for the rest of us!)

You genuinely appear to be a prayerful person. Thank you for your commitment to pray here on CF.
The world, and all us people in it, surely do need much prayer these days.
 
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That makes much sense! We have a few cloistered monasteries in my state, including 2 in my diocese. I’m so grateful for their constant prayers!
After reading up on cloistered nuns, it certainly has to be a special calling. It seems like a tough vocation to me.
 
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@RileyG

Their secret is that they have been called by God to a life a prayer.
And when God calls us to an assignment or ministry, He equips us for it.

In the Bible, we are all commanded to pray. But some persons are additionally called by God to the ministry of intercession (prayer). And while we usually just think of nuns and monks when we think of intercessors, many intercessors are regular folks like you and I, who live out in the real world and have been called by God to minister in prayer for others.

Lived out in the world, the ministry of intercession is often a private one, not one that many others will see or even know about. The ones called to this kind of ministry won't be applauded or honored by the world, nor will they be seeking that kind of personal glory or recognition. Persons called to this ministry love God and the things that are important to Him, often the salvation of souls. They aren't seeking personal glory for themselves, but rather the glory of God.

Intercessors are often compassionate persons, able to empathize for others who are suffering, even persons they do not personally know. They will sometimes just sense 'a burden' to pray for someone, not always even knowing what is the need. That is because it is often God who will put the burden to pray on the heart of the intercessor.

In His Divine Providence, God arranges for the intercessor's 'station in life' to be one conducive to his spending time alone with God in prayer. The intercessor with find himself with the time and opportunity in his schedule to pray. And not all prayer is vocal. Sometimes an intercessor will just sense a desire to sit in silent prayer alone with God.

The ministry of intercession is a ministry of the Holy Spirit. He is the One Who will teach and guide and develop the intercessor into this ministry. All that is needed on the part of the intercessor is the willingness to say 'yes', and the obedience to pray as the Spirit of God leads.

Reading good books on prayer can be helpful. I could, but won't, recommend some since the ones I'm familiar with have been written by Protestants. But I would think that our brother fide might have some helpful insights to share on this subject from a more Catholic perspective. And JimR-OCDS, as a Secular Order Carmelite, may also have some insight to share when he returns to the forum at the close of Lent. Many called to the ministry of intercession join Third Orders or become oblates. It becomes their calling ...

:rose:St. Therese of Lisieux was not a very physically healthy young woman, but she never stopped praying. She prayed from her sickbed for others. Her life is a beautiful example of one called to the ministry of intercession.

God bless you, Riley.
Thank you, mourningdove, for using my name in your post, which alerted me to a member's important interest in prayer, Riley. So, Riley and anyone else interested in these thoughts, it is crucially important to pray and to pray well. Prayer, in the words (and Catechetical Instruction) of St. John Vianney: "Prayer is nothing other than union with God." How important is it to pray well, then? Well, anyone who sincerely desires eternity with God and the people of God, it seems, would want to know exactly how to enter "union with God" and how to seek and embrace the Beatitude that that state of Being brings to a human person.

The book that this post links to (above) might well be the kind of reference that would be helpful to you. And's it's free! He is a holy man, and his wisdom is therefore precious. There are many, many books on prayer today that I sadly say are counterproductive for a person seeking spiritual advice concerning prayer or anything else. His Instruction above is wider in scope than prayer alone (which in itself, is one brief chapter - Chapter 8), but it all looks very good and worthwhile.

In Chapter 8, St. John V. devotes a paragraph to the Our Father - which is the absolute best measure of any and all verbal prayers; every word of it demands in justice to its worth, a lifetime of humble obedience. The best book on the Our Father that I can recommend - The Interior Liturgy of the Our Father - is best understood within a working knowledge/understanding of St. John of the Cross, the spiritual theology he worked with of stages or ages of the interior life, and the dark nights experienced necessarily along that pilgrimage of spiritual growth. Good introductions to that spiritual theology are not easy to find. The best introduction that I know of, was written by the same author as The Interior Liturgy... But this post is already over-complicated. If you can let me know what your aim is, or if you want any further advice, please let me know -- I can try to be more helpful in response.


May the Lord lead you, Riley! Maybe He is calling you to Himself.
 
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say some arrow prayers to start, Riley? And then just sit there with it......speak to Him and let Him speak to you, from the heart, soul to soul, no words spoken out loud, just soul to soul. Listen carefully.....breathe.....listen....speak....breath....meditate on your prayerful words and what He is saying to you in response, but in the quietude......

He loves you Riley. Come to Him.....
 
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I remember my old Protestant pastor saying he thought the monastic orders underpinned the church, presumably with their constant prayers.

Not what you expect to hear from a protestant pastor, but he was an intelligent realist.
 
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Here is a general prayer for nuns of all types:

Lord, thou knowest better than I know myself that I am growing older and will some day be old. Keep me from the fatal habit of thinking I must say something on every subject and on every occasion. Release me from craving to straighten out everybody's affairs. Make me thoughtful but not moody; helpful but not bossy.

:)
 
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Here is a general prayer for nuns of all types:

Lord, thou knowest better than I know myself that I am growing older and will some day be old. Keep me from the fatal habit of thinking I must say something on every subject and on every occasion. Release me from craving to straighten out everybody's affairs. Make me thoughtful but not moody; helpful but not bossy.

:)
Amen!
 
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Just a short note to add to the conversation: The best small, brief but incredibly full, rich and comprehensive book I know of to truly help the serious inquirer understand "contemplation" as understood by the giants of the faith, is THE THREE WAYS OF THE SPIRITUAL LIFE, by Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange O.P. This copy is on the EWTN website (their Library), and can be freely copied, printed and/or uploaded into an electronic reader or phone. I don't think a better source exists or could exist to help a hungry soul find and understand the path to the heights of Mt. Carmel.
 
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