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I'm sincerely asking this question: What does it matter what religion the President of the United States professes? As long as he's fit for the job, it shouldn't matter, should it?
I truly do not understand why Christians (us) go into politics.I don't consider any person's religion when I vote for them or not.
However, the fact that so many think that the president should be a Christian (and other politicians as well) and we all acknowledge that they are all liars says exactly what about the kind of person they are?
A lot of Christians in politics did amazing things for others - and for some, they were truly able to put others in check in massive ways.I truly do not understand why Christians (us) go into politics.
It is impossible to become a successful high ranking politician without being a really great and believable liar.
When you go above the City Council - lying becomes a "job requirement".
Thanks,
Ed
My name is Red Fox, and I would like to welcome you to my Talking Circle. For those who are not familiar with what a Talking Circle is, please allow me to explain. In Native American culture, the Talking Circle is based on respect for others who come to sit within the circle, regardless of age, gender, ethnicity, or religion. Within the Circle, the concern for others will begin to take precedence over your own worries in life. It is a way of communication that is quite different than the usual competitive ways of communication out in the world. You will learn to listen. So much can be gained by listening. Is it a coincidence that we have one mouth and two ears? No, not really. It is the mutual respect within the Circle which allows the heart to be shared with each other. What we share with each other can bring healing to our own hearts and bring healing to other hearts as well. Many times it is better to listen than it is to talk.
The purpose of this Talking Circle is to strengthen ourselves and each other. It is open to help strengthen our relationship with our Creator, our families, our friends, and our communities. We are all God's children with varying nationalities and ancestry. We are all equal here, regardless of who we are or where we come from. There are no boundaries of religion or politics within the Circle. I offer an invitation to all through the Circle to come together in respect and in honor. Please understand that we each come from all walks of life, with different religious beliefs and political views. No one wants to be offended nor do we want to offend each other. Let us all make sure we are being respectful of each other and their right to choose their own religious beliefs and their own political views. I believe that respect for others, despite our differences, and listening to what others have to say, without being harsh or judgmental, are the keys to the success of this Talking Circle. Please feel free to discuss the issues or topics you want to, but I ask that you keep the discussion respectful and abide by the rules of this site. I will be sharing stories and teaching others about my Native American culture and heritage within the Circle.
Before I close, I would like to say a few more things. I have spent the vast majority of my Christian walk listening to other Christians tell me that I'm not truly saved because I don't believe or follow the same church doctrine as they do or because I don't worship God the same way as they do or because I don't understand the Scriptures exactly as they do or agree with their personal interpretation of the Scriptures. I have no right to tell someone, who personally professes Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, that they can't possibly be truly saved because they don't agree with me theologically or because they don't worship God exactly the same way as I do. I have spent years being emotionally hurt over such accusations and I have absolutely no intention of being guilty of doing the same thing to other Christians. I am a Native American Christian. I follow Jesus Christ and He is my personal Lord and Savior. So, for the record, I don't worship rocks, trees or animals. I have never set in a sweat lodge or lived in a teepee. I don't practice the ancient spirituality of my Indian ancestors nor do I talk about that spirituality in public. This Talking Circle is not a promotion of Native American spirituality nor is it to be used as a springboard for scrutinizing that spirituality. I will not participate in any criticism against that spirituality or against any other kind of religion. I want to treat others as I would like to be treated.
Thank you for listening. May your time here be blessed and may it be an encouragement to you. Regardless of who you are or what you believe, you are welcome here. Please take a few moments to introduce yourself to the rest of the Circle. I look forward to meeting new people and connecting with old friends here.
"Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do
to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect." Chief Seattle
Sounds interesting! My ancestors are Blackfoot and Cherokee! ... I would like to talk about Jesus, and listen to others views here concerning Him whom is the basis of christianforums.com - the idea we all are here. My spirituality is centered on Jesus, He holds a special place in my heart.
Sounds interesting! My ancestors are Blackfoot and Cherokee! "In Native American culture, the Talking Circle is based on respect for others who come to sit within the circle, regardless of age, gender, ethnicity, or religion. Within the Circle, the concern for others will begin to take precedence over your own worries in life. It is a way of communication that is quite different than the usual competitive ways of communication out in the world. You will learn to listen." I would like to talk about Jesus, and listen to others veiws here concerning Him whom is the basis of christianforums.com - the idea we all are here. My spirituality is centered on Jesus, He holds a special place in my heart.
Cool. I wonder how many people here have Native American blood.
This thread does kind of depress me though. While I look white and would never face discrimination, I have always wondered if my Grandfather did. Would sadden me.
I guess I really never knew much about the Native American POV, and this thread has helped open my eyes about some of the horrid things they go through.
Some of it is interesting to consider when it comes to the extensive ways that Native American culture is not really seen as truly impacting SIGNIFICANT American events. I'm actually reading one book that has been fascinating to me on the topic - known as "American Revolution in Indian Country" by Colin G. CallowayCool. I wonder how many people here have Native American blood.
This thread does kind of depress me though. While I look white and would never face discrimination, I have always wondered if my Grandfather did. Would sadden me. I guess I really never knew much about the Native American POV, and this thread has helped open my eyes about some of the horrid things they go through.
There are certain points where it gets depressing indeed - although I'd probably argue it can be limited.Cool. I wonder how many people here have Native American blood.
This thread does kind of depress me though.
There are certain points where it gets depressing indeed - although I'd probably argue it can be limited.
For as important as Native American culture is - if that's ALL one is focused upon when it comes to the negatives and there's never any discussion about culture outside of that, what can occur is that others may assume "All who are non-Native are assumed to NOT Know the horrible things happening in Native American experience and that's the only narrative that matters"....and thus, it can become one-sided rather than a real exchange where others share mutually with differing cultures - a real Circle.
There's nothing wrong with being proud of one's culture so that others remember what people went through - just as it would be with any other ethnic group (i.e. Aboriginal, Black, Jewish, Greek, Coptic, etc.). However, if one only shares on their own culture and never asks on others in their own, that can be a point where having pride in your culture can end up giving the impression that others having pride in their cultures is not valued.
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