Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.
It sure seems like more folks than Moriah are to be involved, that is my concern.
Is this a forum for ONE person. If so, fine.
It sure seems like more folks than Moriah are to be involved, that is my concern.
Moriah does not need to share her story here. I do hope she gets help.
Is someone who has romantic sex with Satan and demons a Christian?
From related discussions (linked to at the bottom of the page), we are looking to create a private forum, such as the current Site Supporter forum, that can only be accessed by the forum members. Forum members must first be approved by one of the forum moderators (who will be chosen by the members)and proposal for their joining must not meet with any substantial objections from already existing members.
Effective immediately, the following members are listed as the "founding client members" of this subforum for any and all quorum-related purposes: Freitag, Moriah_Conquering_Wind, Vespasia.
Article 1: Restricted Access
This forum will be restricted to the following members:
- Christian ex-occultists from one or more bona fide occult traditions ("Client" member)
- those presently under demonic influence, oppression or inhabitation, who have a history with one or more bona fide occult traditions, who demonstrate openness to Christ or that they are actively seeking Christ, and therefore seek Christian input on, or solutions for, their situation ("Client" member)
- Staff from Recovery and Ministry and Omega Team who feel able to cope with the subject matter. ("Staff" member)
- Others deemed "friendly", supportive AND "safe" to the members whom this subforum is intended to serve and who profess and follow Christ ("Support Friend" member)
1.a. No one with a repeated history of manifest hostility, harshness or abrasiveness toward, distrust, defamation, slander, character attacks upon, or harassment of, subforum "client" members will be admitted.
1.b. "Support Friends" shall be admitted upon the suggestion of the member requesting and the absence of any substantial objection to their presence. Please be judicious in issuing invitations and only select those who have demonstrated a consistent viable presence of supportiveness for you (to avoid cluttering the forum). A probation period should take place in BSA to determine if this is in the best interest of all involved. It is recommended that friend members should demonstrate a vibrant Christian prayer life.
1.c. Potential new members of "client" and "support friend" classes will be considered for admission only if doing so does not meet with any substantial and serious objections from existing members.
Article 2: Subject Matter Interpretation and Freedom of Expression:2.a. Posts in this subforum discussing personal experiences of Satan, demons, or occult shall NOT be construed to be "promoting" the same. Members shall have freedom to discuss openly their personal experiences, feelings, thoughts, opinions, perceptions and genuine theological doubts and questions in this SAFE atmosphere without fear of incurring judgment and nastiness from others.
2.b. Members should clearly indicate if posts express personal experiences, feelings, thoughts, opinions, perceptions and genuine theological doubts and questions given the potential difficulties that this media of communication can cause.
2.c. When in doubt, members may request clarifications from one another as to meanings of posts. Request for clarification shall defer to the member so clarifying as the final authority on the true meaning of his or her words and expressions.
2.d. No seeking to silence, stifle or "muzzle" others on the basis of personal triggers. Members choosing to participate in this sub forum do so understanding that each is individually responsible for himself or herself, and that subject matter may indeed be "triggering". It is up to individual members to seek private counsel with staff or other support and make use of coping resources if they are being triggered including, but not limited to, taking hiatus from the sub forum. It is NOT acceptable to "muzzle" or "silence" other members of the sub forum on the basis of "I'm being triggered" and members joining this sub forum agree to this by asking to join.
2.e. No deliberate "button hammering" or repetitive triggering. Likewise, members agree that when someone notes something to be a trigger, sore spot, "button" being pushed, etc. that this boundary will be respected and members will not "flaunt" or otherwise repetitively reference said thing "in the face of" the person for whom it creates involuntarily reactionary difficulties.
2.f. Spiritual abuse is something that has been likened by many as the equivalent of spiritual rape. It is important for mod staff and members to understand that a person who has been spiritually abused may have a very distorted picture of God and His actual nature. Being told to pray, and forgive the person/group and move on. is totally not helpful. While there is truth in this, it is important to realise that people who have been spiritually abused need room to process the feelings of shame, guilt, embarassment anger, sadness instead of being given what can often be seen as trite platitudes. Forgiveness is a critical part of the healing process however it is something that the person must reach for themselves.
It was a group concensus. Moriah is one of three who are making the decisions. This has not been set up with the sole purpose or aiding moriah, and it is much hoped that this will be able to help other people who may come across foru in the future with the same sort of issues.The very fact that a practicing Satanist was turned away by Moriah herself gives evidence that it truly is a recovery forum.
That fact alone swayed me to be more positive about the forum's existence.
Lisa
...but then, you think we are all a bit self-deluded, true?
Lisa
Matthew 15:10-20 10 And he called the people to him and said to them, "Hear and understand: 11 not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man." 12 Then the disciples came and said to him, "Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying?" 13 He answered, "Every plant which my heavenly Father has not planted will be rooted up. 14 Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit." 15 But Peter said to him, "Explain the parable to us." 16 And he said, "Are you also still without understanding? 17 Do you not see that whatever goes into the mouth passes into the stomach, and so passes on? 18 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this defiles a man. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, fornication, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a man; but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man."
Luke 6:39 -
39 He also told them a parable: "Can a blind man lead a blind man? Will they not both fall into a pit?
Galatians 5:13-26 13 For you were called to freedom, brethren; only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love be servants of one another. 14 For the whole law is fulfilled in one word, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." 15 But if you bite and devour one another take heed that you are not consumed by one another. 16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and do not gratify the desires of the flesh. 17 For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh; for these are opposed to each other, to prevent you from doing what you would. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit you are not under the law. 19 Now the works of the flesh are plain: fornication, impurity, licentiousness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, anger, selfishness, dissension, party spirit, 21 envy, drunkenness, carousing, and the like. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control; against such there is no law. 24 And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit. 26 Let us have no self-conceit, no provoking of one another, no envy of one another.
Ephesians 5:6-20
6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for it is because of these things that the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7 Therefore do not associate with them, 8 for once you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord; walk as children of light 9 (for the fruit of light is found in all that is good and right and true), 10 and try to learn what is pleasing to the Lord. 11 Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. 12 For it is a shame even to speak of the things that they do in secret; 13 but when anything is exposed by the light it becomes visible, for anything that becomes visible is light. 14 Therefore it is said, "Awake, O sleeper, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give you light." 15 Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise men but as wise, 16 making the most of the time, because the days are evil. 17 Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is. 18 And do not get drunk with wine, for that is debauchery; but be filled with the Spirit, 19 addressing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody to the Lord with all your heart, 20 always and for everything giving thanks in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to God the Father.
Praying:
Our Father Who Art In Heaven
Hallowed Be Thy Name
Thy Kingdom Come
Thy Will Be Done
On Earth As It Is In Heaven
Give Us Today
Our Daily Bread
And Forgive Us Our Trespasses
As We Forgive Those Who Trespass
Against Us
And Lead Us Not Into Temptation
But Deliver Us From Evil
Amen
I understand the need to minister to those who are struggling with being in an occult. I understand they need our love and compassion and our mercy and our prayers.
The issue that I have is based on the wiki itself:
http://foru.ms/t6128006-wiki-beth-shean-city-of-refuge.html
I do understand that there is a need to reach out to those who are being hurt and tormented by evil. But, leaving it up to the very members who are struggling... instead of the moderators as to who can join their forum and also on what rules the members need to follow...
It's like the blind leading the blind in a way. I understand that they have been hurt and they desire a safe haven to share their struggles. I know that Moriah has been through so much and that she has been hurt.
I just don't know if this is the answer to help her and others who are struggling with the spiritual warfare that they are struggling with.
I also thought that this new forum was suppose to be transparent... everything out in the open. Why is this subforum having so much exclusion allowance.
I pray that this all works out for good in Christ...
God's Peace,
Debbie
I disagree also.
this is really troubling
I wonder why though, when with all the other forums are allowed to make their own rules, that we should give that control up to mods. So totally not trying to bait you here, however am trying to understand where other people are comming from
I know the WoF subforum and I think the conservative christian forum has wikified their rules so that only WoF and Conservative christians, may mod, and work rules in their respective forums. I can understand why subforums, would do it that way. It would not be good for a liberal mod, or a mod with a dislike of WoF to be making decisions on reports concerning something they themselves are in oppistion with.
I've seen several people state that us making the rules and us deciding who we wanted to mod was bad, however I do wonder, because it seems that it is ok for other forums to state who they want as mods.
Your reponse appreciated
Praying:
Our Father Who Art In Heaven
Hallowed Be Thy Name
Thy Kingdom Come
Thy Will Be Done
On Earth As It Is In Heaven
Give Us Today
Our Daily Bread
And Forgive Us Our Trespasses
As We Forgive Those Who Trespass
Against Us
And Lead Us Not Into Temptation
But Deliver Us From Evil
Amen
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