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Wildwood said:This is an interesting coincidence. I was thinking the other day about the famine that forced Jacob and his 11 sons to go to Egypt, and how Joseph had prepared for the famine. Grant Jeffries described an inscription that has been found from a wealthy woman who was willing to give a fortune in jewels for some grain, but there was none. What reminded me of this was how dependent I am on grocery stores.
birdfriend said:Hi Wildwood. Hmmm. Interesting thought about the grocery stores. Yes, we are dependent on them and all of those who provide food for selling there, for example, what if no more meat because cattle get sick and no more fish because fish get full of mercury. ????
I was thinking of modern day disastors like so many dying of starvation especially in Africa...which is like the biblical famines. And also of the Deluge...cf....Tsunami ..And we could compare the "Great Depression" of the thirties (dust bowl, etc.) to biblical crop failures like in Egypt during the time of Joseph's interpretation of Pharoah's dream. Truly there is "nothing new under the sun."
Treasurer said:The one that fasinated me was the black plague. It was horrible.
People at that time believed it was, well Revelations coming to pass. And I can see how they would. It was pretty much wiping out most of the known world.
In about three days time, you were dead.
Treasurer said:Yes, I had looked up a lot on the Black Death. One thing that was interesting from the biblical standpoint, I dont think midevil times was the first encounter. Just the most devistating to the known world.
From scripture: 1 Samuel 5:1-12 & 1 Samuel 6:1-21
God sent a plague on Ashdod, Gaza, Ashkelon, Gath, and Ekron. (Men from Bethshemesh looked into the Ark of the Lord. And the Philistines captured the Ark of God). In Samuel we find out this plague gave them tumors and was killing them, it had to be pretty bad, it was causing panic. No one wanted the ark in their city. So when they sent it back, interestingly the guilt offering was:
five gold tumors, and five gold rats (for the five rulers, who were told not to rebel against the God of Israel like the Pharoah of Egypt did).
So the interesting part of the story is, it sounds like the same plague. The black plague. -A biblical plague-
Citation please.Critias said:A man who murderes a few million innocent people,
Two.invades several countries,
Granted.threatens many others,
Not that it makes it any less of a crime but he used chemical weapons, not biological weapons.uses biological weapons
I'm not sure what difference it makes that he used them against citizens of Iraq.against its own people
Singular: Iran. Unless you have a citation ...as well as other countries
Yup, he and his administration lied and vilified those who pointed out that their arguments were specious, then they went off half cocked in a war without planning for the aftermath thus making day-to-day life worse than it was before for many and quite possibly dooming Iraq to a protracted civil war.is not really enough of a reason for Americans to stand up and do something.
Sure the President does something,
By putting them in prisons for months at a time without trial, oh yup, that is a good way to protect people.but much of the population is against us standing up and saying this is wrong and doing something about it to protect the rest of the people within Iraq.
My apologies, I'm afraid that when others make political statements that are backed with factually flawed analysis I have a hard time letting it go. (esp. when I disagree with the conclusionCovenantRay said:Shalom Robert:
Interesting political statement, however what does this have to do with Biblical Archaeology?
Critias said:I personally think there is some interesting things going on today with the weather, as well as people changing.
The weather seems to be more "active" these days with a greater level of intensity than in the last several years or more.
People are becoming angrier and less responsible these days. What I mean by the latters is that people, much more adults than in previous generations, are blaming others for their problems that they created themselves.
A man who murderes a few million innocent people, invades several countries, threatens many others, uses biological weapons against its own people as well as other countries is not really enough of a reason for Americans to stand up and do something. Sure the President does something, but much of the population is against us standing up and saying this is wrong and doing something about it to protect the rest of the people within Iraq.
We are a cold nation, complacent and care only about ourselves. This reminds me of the Israelites at different times in history.
Nebmaatisus said:Biblical disasters? The exile in Babylon must have been quite a catastrophe, even a man-made one. The recent postings about Bush could be justified by Bush being even worse disaster for the Iraqis, and, according to the Bible, there are more to come. We cannot know how close is the end, but present disasters really seem to take biblical proportions.
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