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Did you like Playful Parenting?
Two of the books on my list have a Waldorf slant, just an fyi.
You are Your Child's First Teacher...good? one of the best you've read? Why?Nobody liked my list. I put a lot of effort into posting the images of the books...*sniff*
Just kidding y'all! I just want to bring some lightness to this thread before it gets all controversial on us in heah!
Okay, let's look at chapter one, these are direct quotes,
"Careful training can make a dog perfectly obedient. A dog can be trained not to touch a tasty morsel laid in front of him. Can't a child be trained not to touch? A dog can be trained to come, stay, sit, be quiet or fetch upon command. You may not have trained your dog that well, yet every day someone accomplishes it on the dumbest mutts. ... Proper training always works on every child. "
After being compared to dogs, the next section is comparing training your children to training horses. This pretty much sets up his view on children and raising them. You are to treat them like Pavlov's dogs nothing but psychological responses.... not wonderful creations of Christ like you and I. A child is not a dog, or a horse, nor do their brains work the same way.
The next paragraph says, "When my children were able to crawl (in the case of one, roll) around the room, I ...
Place an appealing object where they can reach it, maybe in a "No-no" corner or on an apple juice table (That's where the coffee table
once sat). When they spy it and make a dive for it, in a calm voice say, "No, don't touch it." They will already be familiar with the "No," so they will pause, look at you in wonder and then turn around and grab it. Switch their hand once and simultaneously say, "No.""
Then we are told that it is training to switch a baby.... 6 months old. Not only are you to switch them but set them up for failure by placing an object that they are sure to reach for so that you can switch them. That is developmentally inappropriate and sick all at once.
He regularly uses manipulative language to say that parenting other ways is stressful but parenting in his sick and demeaning way is joyful and relaxing.... very cultish behavior.... and a lie, all at once.
Ok, I DO NOT want to get a debate going on this- I just want to reply with my point of view. Mostly because this post was so scalding, and I don't see it this way at all. Let's not resort to too much name calling here.There are probably just as many horror stories floating around about, say, the Ezzos' books if you look for them.
I read it. Didn't like it. The woman who wrote it is very anti-breastfeeding. While she claims not to be, her tone towards breastfeeding even more so at night. Not my cup of tea but I have friends who love her book and use the techniques with their kids.Someone suggested to my hubby "The Baby Whisperer" before Justin was ever born. I never looked into it...but I hear it was really good. Has anyone read it?
No, by all means say what you mean!Nope also, I didn't mean to put anything in your mouth. If I misunderstood your implication I'm sorry. We just don't see this the same way & I don't see much point in discussing it any further. It's just hard to be quiet about something I feel has truly been a blessing in my life, and seeing it dismissed as lies, sick behavior and a cult. If it's not for you, I'm fine with that. God bless!
I did actually read it. Or at least, I read the first chapter, and I was physically nauseous. I'm sure, as with all parenting books, there are some truths and pearls of wisdom in there - I would be astounded to find out it's 100% bad. But honestly, I believe To train up a child is a manual for child abuse.Why blech to "To Train Up a Child?"
ScottishJoy, would you describe the author of To Train Up A Child as a behaviorist (like BF Skinner)?
No, I wouldn't. I usually don't go around describing people as (pick a word)ists.I haven't read all his books and I've already made it clear (or I thought I did ) that I don't support every word the man says... He is not infallible. If I had to pin a tag on him, I think it would say, "author of one of many parenting books I find helpful." After reading the links illinoismommy posted (yep, read them all through), I've heard him called a lot of things. If by behaviorist, you mean, would I describe him as someone who advocates treating children like soulless dogs to be pushed around at a whim- NO! I think he's being taken out of context quite a bit, but that's my opinion, and I'm not trying to convince anybody.. Just giving my little old opinion for cryin out loud!
Playful parenting? Who wrote it? I am interested!
From Publishers Weekly
"Pretend... that we're really gonna be late and you're really mad," Emma, daughter of psychologist and play therapist Cohen, whispered one morning, cleverly transforming their morning ritual his grumpy attempt to get her off to preschool into a fun game. According to Cohen, children of all ages have an ongoing need for connectedness, security and attachment; playful interaction with parents is an important way to develop such bonds. Through play, parents can help their kids develop greater confidence, express bottled up or difficult feelings, recover from daily emotional upheavals, negotiate agreements, express love and not least have fun. In his therapy practice, Cohen has used play to help both severely troubled and securely attached kids negotiate the daily travails of life; he demonstrates how to prevent and address serious problems with silliness and laughter. Cohen acknowledges that it is sometimes difficult for busy and harried parents to relearn play, and that playtime is both physically challenging and tiring. However, using examples from his practice, research and personal experience, he intelligently guides parents through the possibilities awaiting them if they are willing and able to loosen up. The book explores play with compassion, but is often so funny that parents will find themselves chortling out loud with recognition and anticipation. Agent, Josh Horwitz. (On-sale date: May 29)Forecast: Cohen takes his practice on the road for a five-city author tour, which should help convince the Scrooge-like of play's primacy. His lessons on the deflection of anger are applicable beyond the m‚nage. Copyright 2001 Cahners Business Information, Inc.
Here is the link
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