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(Cross-posted to Women's Discussion)

My man and I have had a falling out lately.

His lupus really changed him more than he would admit for a long time, and I found myself dissatisfied with those changes. I agreed to marry him before the lupus, before these changes. Before the strain of this illness wreaked havoc over his personality and he started complaining about everything and throwing me his once or twice daily pity parties. Before his anxiety disorder grew so severe that he could not get a job, and when he did could only work 2 hours a day. I began to despise who had become, hiding it under the cloak of commitment. I loved him because I said I'd stay with him. I loved him because I'd said I'd marry him.
But I had fallen out of love with him.

A good marriage needs both the commitment and being in love with the person. We decided to break off the engagement and work on falling in love with each other all over again. There are still vestiges of the man I fell in love with there... hopefully in this next time he can take those and mold them with the good qualities he is striving to acheive. Such as, he finally figured out why he panics all the time on the job, and next chance he gets he is going to implement changes to his thoughts. He is willing to work into a man I could be proud of.
Deep in our hearts we still know that we are the right one for each other. But I want to make sure that I am in love with him for who he is now before I marry him.
So we have broken off the engagement for now, but not the relationship, and when the time is right he will ask me to marry him again, sporting a new ring, symbolizing the new commitment to him as he is NOW, not to who he used to be.
 

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I totally understand changing personalities due to medical problems. I went through something very similar, except that I wasn't dating and I was the one who changed. I was a very different person for several months and then one day, just as if I had awaken from a long sleep, there I was again. Keep strong, I cannot gaurentee that the exact same thing will happen to him, but he is still in there somewhere and God uses all situations, no matter how bad, for our good and our growth. This is not to say that He creates the situation, but Gdo is so much bigger than our circumstances (I try to tell myself this everyday) and He has the power to work through any trials, toils, and strife.

Keep praying for your man, this will have the biggest impact, and just keep on loving him. We don't always feel in love, but it is obvious that the love is still there. Work on loving eachother as holy images of our God and being in love will follow much more easily.
 
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I just want to add something.

Marriage isn't about being in love with someone. It's about loving that person unconditionally. It's a choice where you say "I don't like you very much right now, but I still love you." In preparing for my marriage, I've talked to most of my married friends, newly weds to those married for 50 years. And almost every single couple told me that. You have to make the choice to love that person and not just be in love.

Perhaps you should search your heart and ask yourself if you can really choose to love him despite all the failures, changes, and mistakes he's going to make.
 
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Hi, better to see all aspects of that person, before you marry....marriage is truly a strong commitment that can't be treaded upon lightly....make sure he is not using his illness as a scapegoat for bad treatment....You are the woman he say's he loves....so he should....treat you with total love and respect....
 
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Very true... But before marriage, it is still something y0ou can get out of and I believe you should enter marriage in love at least somewhat, for you have the rest of your life to be choosing love. You see I'm not meaning 'eyes closed, blind if they were opened anyway love' but just excited about them and seeing them and that, and if you don't have that entering a marriage, how can you expect to have it later in life. my parents still have that, and they've been married many many years.

What you said i think is one of the most important pieces of advice for marrriage, but just make sure you are using it in the right context. i.e. marriage.
 
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I believe I did mention this in my post.
I do love him unconditionally. I just want to make sure that I continue to be in love with him as well, because both are needed for a really strong marriage.
 
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Revenwyn - I'm sorry if I offended you. But your post talked more about being "in love" and falling "in love" and that's why I posted what I did.

Inperfected - I did use it in the right context seeing how I was talking about marriage.
 
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Haven't the two of you already stood before the Lord and made a covenant with each other? Haven't you already been purposely living as a married couple who just doesn't have the legal document? I know you live in seperate places right now, but I thought you had said you already stood before the Lord and made the commitment to live as a married couple?
 
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We do not and never have lived together.

The reason we are patching it up is because we made a covenant together. The covenant was real wedding vows but we have never lived together. However the lupus did change him and before I legally marry him and we move in together I want to make sure that I am still in love with him, for who he is NOW, not who he was when I made that commitment.

Every marriage needs this reevaluation: Do you still love them? Are you still in love with them?
A good marriage needs both and we're trying to regain the second.
I love him because I made a covenant with him. We did not break off the relationship, only stepped back and reevaluated it.
Why do we love each other? Is it just because we said we would never leave each other and that divorce was not an option? If so, that is a sad reason to be married, but a reason nonetheless.

We want more than just that reason. We want to again be in love with each other. The lupus greatly changed him and I need to be able to accept those changes, though every day I see more glimpses of the man he was before, the man I fell in love with.

And things are looking up again.
 
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I'm not trying to offend you, but I have to ask... what happens if you two patch things up, and then a few years down the road you discover that you aren't "in love" with him anymore, or vice versa? You have to choose to love your future spouse for who he is, who he has been, and who he could be, and once you *really* marry, there shouldn't be the option of stepping back to reevaluate how you feel about each other.

I'm not saying that it's wrong to question things, but to me, using the excuse that you want to fall "in love" with him again could possibly be a recipe for disaster in the future. People change so much over the years, and once you are legally married, it will be more difficult for you (or him) to say that you need time to "fall in love" again should one of you change.

I am happy to hear that things are beginning to look up, but just some food for thought. And again, I hope I didn't offend you.
 
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You again try to find out what you love about him and fall in love all over again. It's a continual thing. However the commitment to the person is still there. I already said I still had that commitment, it cannot be changed or broken, and if it is it is wrong.

The ideal is to be in love with the person as well as have that commitment in place. We are striving for the ideal right now.
 
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Then I have another question... what if you don't achieve that ideal? What if you find yourself unable to fall in love with him again? Does that make the vows you've said already any less of a committment? I've seen posts of yours in which you've stated that for your fiance and you, the only grounds to break the engagement are also the only grounds for a Biblical divorce, since you've already said vows and made the committment before God. Is that any less true now, now that you have found yourself not "in love" with him anymore? If you do fall in love with him again and you legally marry, what happens if later on down the road you disover you've fallen out of love again (or vice versa)... how would it be different then, besides the legality of your marriage, since you have already made a covenant before the Lord? Would you be able to be happy in your marriage even then?

Again, I am not trying to be offensive, I am just genuinely curious and concerned.
 
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Revenwyn said:
The reason we are patching it up is because we made a covenant together. The covenant was real wedding vows but we have never lived together.

My only concern is that even though you are not living in the same house, you did make a real covenant with each other and God, and you have consumated your relationship as a husband and wife would. I understand that you have not ended the relationship, but you have made a point in other topics about how you are married in God's eyes and simply don't have the legal paper. I am wondering if you are truly looking at this as a true marriage. In marriage you don't get to take a step back, you deal with the way things change and move forward not back. I really am not trying to offend you in anyway, but the vows say "for better for worse, in sickness and in health" You say you still love him but don't think you are in love with him due to the changes that the lupus has caused, you say you have unconditional love for him, but yet by taking a step back and re evaluating your relationship b/c he has changed says the opposite. I will be praying that the Lord will lead you in this time.
 
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