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We are according to scripture in merely one phase of a declared plan that has many phases and even different 'realities' as between the world we think we know a little [of experience to us, of 'phenomena'' , of the 'familiar' , of that which we belive through models and images (and words!) of THIS world] and then the next world [and for some the 'lake of fire' ] and then 'paradise' and the spirit [the third heaven]
In that respect it may be mind expanding [particularly for atheists perhaps who insist on phenomenalism usually] to consider the implications of M-theory , a theory that perhaps a tenth of top theoretical physicists now devote their time to beacause it offers the simplification that conotes understanding to men of seeing a common source of all forces.. so that force becomes a single concept, not four separate ones...
now such an idea requires man going beyond his common experience, realising that there are even whle dimensions [seven of them] beyond space-time we know best about... but also raises the apparent inevitability of parallel universes... extending Physics into studying about 'places' where we cannot be byany known means, cannot experience as yet or maybe not at all, yet knowing by observation of consequences of them that they must be [if the theory is true] ... t rather pushes the idea of evidence to the limit, evidence by logical implication... by idea...
But then science does not bother to study where the ideas that it relies completely upon come FROM ... the men who produced great breakthroughs in thought do however write about their experiences ... they typically push existing thoughts to their limits and find them lacking in some respect... then completely stumped wander off in a sort of meditation on what could be the truth... then a new idea materialises quite suddenly in them and they rush off to test it... many attribute the answer coming to them as coming from God... they know and acknowledge that it did not come from them ,that they were stumped to know where to look next... that makes scientists just the testers of God's theories and God the one who really reveals science and thus controls closely the way this world evolves...
Having gotten that far why stop? ... a separate parallel universe can have cmpletely different physics from ours, nothing to stp it being perfect for instance, to have time completely reversible [as indeed most Physical laws even in this world say it is] ... that would be a 'timeless' universe in the sense we know time, every change could be undone so that the total of all changes would be changeless...
we do not really even know how to conceive it because our very conciousness in THIS world is serial, time-bound... our very language integrally assumes time as we know it, cause as we know it... and so forth...
Even if we forget about 'god' , we have here a conception about something closer to us than an atom's width away which affects us and yet is highly separated from us by barriers we know not how to cross, and which may indeed be that perfect thing which our hearts long for and which scripture talks about... and it is not crazy misguided religionists exploring the possibilities, it is top scientists dedicated in their lives to exact truth as best they can manage it...
The paradox is that scripture guarantees that almost all religionists will get their image of God wrong, God actually requires that for His purpose in THIS earth to be fulfilled ... of course religionists do not admit that scripture says that, but it does nonetheless ...
2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie
Rev13: 3-4 ... all the world wondered after the beast
and they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast
Thus the truth when it comes comes from God and only when He is ready to give it... and he does say that there is a time in the new earth when all men will know all trut from Him... just a matter of how muuch patience and belief one has been given then?
How much one yearns to know now...
In that respect it may be mind expanding [particularly for atheists perhaps who insist on phenomenalism usually] to consider the implications of M-theory , a theory that perhaps a tenth of top theoretical physicists now devote their time to beacause it offers the simplification that conotes understanding to men of seeing a common source of all forces.. so that force becomes a single concept, not four separate ones...
now such an idea requires man going beyond his common experience, realising that there are even whle dimensions [seven of them] beyond space-time we know best about... but also raises the apparent inevitability of parallel universes... extending Physics into studying about 'places' where we cannot be byany known means, cannot experience as yet or maybe not at all, yet knowing by observation of consequences of them that they must be [if the theory is true] ... t rather pushes the idea of evidence to the limit, evidence by logical implication... by idea...
But then science does not bother to study where the ideas that it relies completely upon come FROM ... the men who produced great breakthroughs in thought do however write about their experiences ... they typically push existing thoughts to their limits and find them lacking in some respect... then completely stumped wander off in a sort of meditation on what could be the truth... then a new idea materialises quite suddenly in them and they rush off to test it... many attribute the answer coming to them as coming from God... they know and acknowledge that it did not come from them ,that they were stumped to know where to look next... that makes scientists just the testers of God's theories and God the one who really reveals science and thus controls closely the way this world evolves...
Having gotten that far why stop? ... a separate parallel universe can have cmpletely different physics from ours, nothing to stp it being perfect for instance, to have time completely reversible [as indeed most Physical laws even in this world say it is] ... that would be a 'timeless' universe in the sense we know time, every change could be undone so that the total of all changes would be changeless...
we do not really even know how to conceive it because our very conciousness in THIS world is serial, time-bound... our very language integrally assumes time as we know it, cause as we know it... and so forth...
Even if we forget about 'god' , we have here a conception about something closer to us than an atom's width away which affects us and yet is highly separated from us by barriers we know not how to cross, and which may indeed be that perfect thing which our hearts long for and which scripture talks about... and it is not crazy misguided religionists exploring the possibilities, it is top scientists dedicated in their lives to exact truth as best they can manage it...
The paradox is that scripture guarantees that almost all religionists will get their image of God wrong, God actually requires that for His purpose in THIS earth to be fulfilled ... of course religionists do not admit that scripture says that, but it does nonetheless ...
2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie
Rev13: 3-4 ... all the world wondered after the beast
and they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast
Thus the truth when it comes comes from God and only when He is ready to give it... and he does say that there is a time in the new earth when all men will know all trut from Him... just a matter of how muuch patience and belief one has been given then?
How much one yearns to know now...