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Oklo is a fable you cant defend it, and the fine structure constant is belief based in entirety. I explained why. You must flee because you cannot win.Forum rules require me to address posters arguments, not to criticise the person. Since your vacuous responses contain no arguments this is problematic. Let me know if you ever lose the blindfold. Until then (or until an especially egregious post catches my eye) goodbye.
Keep us posted on what you know about that former state.Why would there be if the former nature ...
Yes. Apparently you need a fresh one.I have posted evidence, and I watched you run away from it.
Do we need to go over K/Ar and Pb/U ratios again?
Don't be silly. Your 'attack' on the fine structure constant was vacuous rhetoric, devoid of facts and evidence. Oklo requires no defense from me: the evidence is clear. Feel free to define between one and three specific errors in that evidence, or interpretation of that evidence. I shall require that you provide some combination of peer reviewed research and reasoned argument to support your viewpoint. Further empty agenda driven, emotional word salad will not cut it.Oklo is a fable you cant defend it, and the fine structure constant is belief based in entirety. I explained why. You must flee because you cannot win.
Resort to custard when you get flustered.
Keep us posted on what you know about that former state.
Yes. Apparently you need a fresh one.
False. The fact is that you have not even dealt with or addressed whether we can prove time exists in deep space and ALL things about determining the fine structure constant REQUIRE that. As for Oklo, can you prove the whole site was, at just the right time, dunked miles under? Then some claimed eons later at the right time brought back to the surface? Can you show that the missing isotopes that you would claim have decayed away ever really did so? You have tried to use the Oklo fable as a pillar of support for your religious drivel of a fine structure constant. Anything else?Don't be silly. Your 'attack' on the fine structure constant was vacuous rhetoric, devoid of facts and evidence.
Run along then. You believe real hard and can't defend the fable. Whooopee do.Oklo requires no defense from me: the evidence is clear.
Done. Your inability to prove that time exists in deep space and the rubbish fable of Oklo that you can't defend. Ho hum.Feel free to define between one and three specific errors in that evidence, or interpretation of that evidence.
Name any that even deal with whether time exists in deep space!? Science does not cover it, they just make Satanic religious claims dressed with a cap and gown, or lab coat.I shall require that you provide some combination of peer reviewed research
I know that Jesus created the universe and man. Need more? Have some of your magic custard and get back to us eh?You first, dad. Tell us what you know.
So you are talking about on earth. Correct? Well, we could not tell by looking at ratios since we would need to know the state of the past to determine what caused them (not just what produces ratios now) and we would need to know the starting ratios if any at creation. You don't. You can't. You fail. Ha.If time were the same in the past, then we should see the same ratios for radioactive isotopes and their daughter elements in the past as we see them producing now, correct?
So you are talking about on earth. Correct? Well, we could not tell by looking at ratios since we would need to know the state of the past to determine what caused them (not just what produces ratios now) and we would need to know the starting ratios if any at creation. You don't. You can't. You fail. Ha.
I know that Jesus created the universe and man. Need more? Have some of your magic custard and get back to us eh?
If it were different then what is now in any ratio would not have been either missing, or engaged in the same processes that present laws mandate. Obviously.If the past state were the same, then it would be producing the same ratios, would it not?
If it were different then what is now in any ratio would not have been either missing, or engaged in the same processes that present laws mandate. Obviously.
We need evidence that the past was different. Where is that evidence? Science has no evidence either way same or different. History and Scripture solve that problem, the record is pretty clear.We need evidence that the past was different. Where is that evidence?
We need evidence that the past was different. Where is that evidence?
Science has no evidence either way same or different.
What isotopes did would have been different because what they now do is dictated by our present physics. No ratios need to be very different. Creation presumably would have started it all off with some ratios of some kind also. You are lost in space and drifting aimlessly with no reference point, no fixed orbit, and no direction.So the ratios would be different in a different state past? Yes/No?
What isotopes did would have been different because what they now do is dictated by our present physics. No ratios need to be very different.
Creation presumably would have started it all off with some ratios of some kind also.
You are lost in space and drifting aimlessly with no reference point, no fixed orbit, and no direction.
That's what I am asking you. Where is the evidence that the past was different or the same? Science has none it has just assumed one. God informed us of the way it was. No great mystery remains there.That's what I am asking you. Where is the evidence that the past was different?
Irrelevant. Any nature God changes will be consistent with the creator. Now if He made the earth vanish and made a whole new one you might have a point. You are just obsessing on present nature and laws and fixating on those, trying to invent a way they alone are responsible for it all. That is a tired act, and an impossible quest.The evidence is consistent ratios of parent and daughter isotopes.
That's what I am asking you.
Irrelevant. Any nature God changes will be consistent with the creator.
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