Ready for more fulfilled prophecy??

[Carey]

[FONT='Trebuchet MS',Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif][FONT='Trebuchet MS', Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]Syria fires on Israeli warplane in its airspace[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][FONT=Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]While the world media is mostly focused elsewhere today, the Middle East is watching nervously tonight to see what will come of the extremely serious Syrian accusation issued a few hour ago that an Israeli military aircraft had violated Syrian airspace overnight. The Syrian dictatorship has been adopting an increasingly belligerent tone in their accusations against Israel in the past few hours, with the latest statement, just broadcast on Al Jazeera TV, containing a clear threat to launch a significant military attack in response to the alleged air violation, which Israel has neither confirmed nor denied.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]The Israeli media is quoting analysts and senior officials this evening expressing grave concerns that the Syrian regime might be employing a well known Soviet era tactic-accuse your enemy of committing a major provocation, trumpet it loudly, and then go on to launch an attack to supposedly respond to the provocation. In other words, the Israeli political and military establishment is on high alert to see what might follow.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]Below is the latest report from the Haaretz news site, published just moments ago. It reflects a significant escalation in Syrian war rhetoric in just the past couple hours, since the Syrian government information minister is now terming the alleged Israeli flyover in the northeast portion of the country as an "Israeli attack." I have highlighted those words below. Those are fighting words for sure, and the Israeli government and military is undoubtedly taking them very seriously.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]So although the world media is focused on the sad death of singing great Luciano Pavarotti and other news today, the fact is that tonight we seem to be closer to an all out war with Syria than at any time in several decades. All that to say, we can use your prayers at this critical hour.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]Syrian Minister: We are seriously considering our response to IAF airspace violation[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]Syrian Information Minister Mohsen Bilal said Thursday that Damascus is giving serious consideration to its response to a reported incident overnight Wednesday, in which the Syrian military fired on an Israel Air Force warplane that had violated its airspace and dropped ammunition.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]The Syrian army's air defenses fired on Israeli Air force warplanes that allegedly entered Syria's airspace and "dropped ammunition," according to the Syrian news agency. IDF officials said they would investigate the report[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]."Syria retains the right to determine the quality, type, and nature of our response to the Israeli attack," he told Al-Jazeera television. "The Syrian leadership is seriously considering its response."[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]Bilal, however, refused to indicate whether the reaction would be on the military or diplomatic level. He would not give any more details about the incident, but said it proved Israel's policies are based on hostility.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]"Israel in fact does not want peace," said Bilal. "It cannot survive without aggression, treachery and military messages."[/FONT][/FONT]

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[dayhiker]

I really don't understand why Isreal does these types of things ever so often. Most of the time it seems to me that Isreal keeps the high ground morally. But then they do something like this and loose it.

As to prophecy being fulfilled, I probably wouldn't know till after a war! Even then I'm not sure.

dayhiker

 

[Carey]

I really don't understand why Isreal does these types of things ever so often. Most of the time it seems to me that Isreal keeps the high ground morally. But then they do something like this and loose it.

As to prophecy being fulfilled, I probably wouldn't know till after a war! Even then I'm not sure.

dayhiker

I think it is more likely Syrian propganda leading to the final war between man and man.

 

[Katie7725]

Israel has been horrible nation when it comes to peace, they bully around the other nations and take land that doesn't belong to them, while kids throw rocks isreali solders kill them with guns.

 

[Carey]

Israel has been horrible nation when it comes to peace, they bully around the other nations and take land that doesn't belong to them, while kids throw rocks isreali solders kill them with guns.

Dont be fooled by propoganda.
Roiot control in Israel is more difficult than anywhere on earth.
Israek has a tough job dealing with children raised by idiots.

http://www.icejusa.org/site/PageNavigator/StopIranVideo

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Published on Friday, May 24, 2002 by the Associated Press [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Study Says Rubber Bullets Too Dangerous For Civil Crowd Control [/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]LONDON - Some types of rubber bullets used by police to restrain unruly protesters kill and maim too often to be considered a safe method of crowd control, new research concludes.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Still clutching a stone in his hand, a Palestinian youth lies on the ground after being hit in the head by a rubber bullet fired by Israeli soldiers during clashes in Hebron, Tuesday, April 8, 1997. In the background, Palestinian police come to the aid of the protester while others restrain demonstrators from hurling rocks. According to a nurse at a Hebron's Al-Ahli Hospital, the injured teenager died during surgery later Tuesday. (AP Photo/Khaled Zighari) [/FONT]
Rubber-coated bullets are intended to inflict superficial painful injuries to deter rioters. But a study of their use by Israeli security forces, published this week in The Lancet medical journal, has found police often fire from too close and aim poorly. Even when fired properly, it said, the bullets are so inaccurate that they can cause unintended injuries.

Here Check out this Israei soldier.

Hope for survivors of the genocide in Sudan ​

A new kind of refugee crisis has hit Israel this summer as the number of destitute Sudanese crossing the Sinai desert border on foot topped 1200 for the year. Many of the refugees are Christians fleeing the tribal Islamic genocide and ethnic cleansing campaign that has ravaged southern Sudan and Darfur.

At the request of Israeli and United Nations humanitarian authorities the ICEJ stepped into the breach providing temporary housing, finding jobs, and caring for many of these Sudanese families' needs.

The refugees' stories are horrific. But their greatest fear is being sent back from Israel to Egypt, where they were often jailed and even beaten in the streets just for wearing crosses.

'It is not like they will put me in jail if I go back to Egypt or Sudan," Aida, 28, recently told The Jerusalem Post, "they will kill me​

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[Epiphoskei]

Israel has been horrible nation when it comes to peace, they bully around the other nations and take land that doesn't belong to them, while kids throw rocks isreali solders kill them with guns.

Propoganda we shouldn't be believing. Total nonsense and patent lies that politicians with an anti-israel axe to grind have been feeding us for years. Israel has never been agressive. Each and every war has been defensive, and if someone tries to destroy you and you defeat him first, you get to keep his stuff. The middle east will have peace when they stop threatining to annihilate israel from the face of the earth.

 

[gwynedd1]

Propoganda we shouldn't be believing. Total nonsense and patent lies that politicians with an anti-israel axe to grind have been feeding us for years. Israel has never been agressive. Each and every war has been defensive, and if someone tries to destroy you and you defeat him first, you get to keep his stuff. The middle east will have peace when they stop threatining to annihilate israel from the face of the earth.

Hello Epiphoskei,

How can I believe your position? I saw for myself Lebanon. Our own Mexican border has more going on then the pretext for that war. FYI: The Turks are complaining about the same fly overs.
And another FYI, Moshe Dyan the defense minister of the IDF during the Yom Kippur war said Israel was the aggressor to the New York Times.

You sound like the propagandist to me. There is certainly anomosity and Islamic forces in the Middle East that want war but many don't if for no other reason that they would lose badly. Israel is not a passive defender but a persistent problem in the Middle East , though they are not the only problem.

 

[thereselittleflower]

Propaganda? It was reported either yesterday or today that Israel bombed inside Syria last week, I believe on the 7th. (I caught the report while with my father in the hospital for emergency surgery - was up all night with him, so the timing of the report is a little blurred).

Here is one such report - Israel violated Syrian airspace and got caught:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070906/ts_nm/syria_israel_dc

"It appears that the Israeli planes were on a reconnaissance mission when they got caught by Syrian defenses and were forced to drop their bombs and extra fuel tanks," said a Western diplomat in Syria's capital Damascus. He declined to be named.

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Another Syrian official said: "They dropped bombs on an empty area while our air defenses were firing heavily at them." The official news agency SANA said Syria "reserves the right to respond according to what it sees fit."

The Israeli military spokesman's office said in a statement: "It is not our custom to respond to these kinds of reports."

The office has typically commented on such charges, but a security source said the government had imposed a news blackout on the issue.

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Israel and Syria are at war.

Syria 'fires on Israel warplanes'

Syria has said its air defences opened fire on Israeli warplanes after they violated its airspace in the north of the country.

Syrian officials said the defences forced the jets to drop ammunition over deserted areas and turn back, according to the official news agency, Sana.

Israel's military said it would not comment on the reports.

Israel and Syria remain technically at war and tensions between them have been rising in recent months.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6981674.stm

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[thereselittleflower]

Some "propaganda" by Syria So because it was Syria who made the claim, it is automatically labelled "propaganda" . . that sounds rather prejudicial . . .

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. officials on Wednesday confirmed Israel launched air strikes against Syria last week

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9j8eu9Ru...w.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N12242902.htm
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And Israel is still mum:

Israel keeps up blackout on mystery Syria air strike

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9j8eu9Ru...l_afp/mideastconflictsyriaisrael_070912111553​

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[Carey]

Some "propaganda" by Syria So because it was Syria who made the claim, it is automatically labelled "propaganda" . . that sounds rather prejudicial . . .

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. officials on Wednesday confirmed Israel launched air strikes against Syria last week ​

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9j8eu9Ru...w.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N12242902.htm​

And Israel is still mum:

Israel keeps up blackout on mystery Syria air strike ​

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9j8eu9Ru...l_afp/mideastconflictsyriaisrael_070912111553​

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[FONT='Trebuchet MS',Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif][FONT='Trebuchet MS', Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]Israeli Media Confirms IAF Struck Near Euphrates[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][FONT=Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]F-15i jets attacked Deir Ez-Zour in east Syria. CNN reports Hizbullah weapons may have been the target. Syria denies IDF ground force inserted[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]Israeli TV Channel 1 said Tuesday that the IDF "definitely carried out an attack" against Syria last Thursday. The attack was meaningful, the channel's military affairs reporter said, and was probably carried out against a large and important target that justified taking this kind of extreme action at such a sensitive time in Israeli-Syrian relations.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]The target hit was in the Deir Ez-Zour region in eastern Syria, near the Euphrates river[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]The attack was carried out by Israel Air Force (IAF) F- 15i jets (The 'i' stands for 'Israel') referred to in Hebrew as Ra'am, or 'thunder.' Anti-aircraft fire from the ground was inefficient, Channel 1 said.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]"Israeli propaganda" Syria denies a report by CNN that IDF ground troops also participated in the operation, and has lodged a complaint with the United Nations about the event. "This is absolutely not true," Syria's ambassador to the UN, Bashar al-Jaafari said.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]He claimed the report is Israeli propaganda aimed at conveying the perception that Israel can insert ground troops anywhere it wants. "Israel is seeking military escalation," he said. "We are exerting efforts so that we don't fall into this trap. We are dealing with the matter with utmost keenness, precision and responsibility."[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]Syria has not asked, however, for a Security Council debate on the matter, and its state-controlled media is downplaying the incident.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]CNN reported Tuesday that the Israeli airstrike inside Syria last week may have been targeting weapons that were earmarked for Hizbullah fighters, citing "sources in the region and in the United States."[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]The sources told CNN that the military operation "may have also involved Israeli ground forces" which "left a big hole in the desert" in Syria. .[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]Israeli government happy "The Israeli government is very happy with the success of the operation," the sources told CNN. Israeli reporters noted that IDF Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi was smiling from ear to ear at a function held on the evening after the attack and saw this as evidence that the attack had gone well.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]Sources in the U.S. government and military said that "they are happy to have Israel carry the message to both Syria and Iran that [Israel] can get in and out and strike when necessary."[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]The 25 F-15is operational in the IAF since 1999 were procured first and foremost for dealing with the Iranian threat. The F-15i's advanced systems include an APG- 70 radar with terrain mapping capability which makes it possible to locate targets that are otherwise very hard to find - i.e. missile batteries, tanks and structures - even under complete fog cover, heavy rain or moonless nights.[/FONT][/FONT]

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