re: Paul and Barnabas?

[WAB]

Interesting to me that no one has answered the question posed in the post referenced.... "To which church did Barnabas belong?..."

Could it be that a truthful answer to said question might refute the "two different church" argument?

Well, here is another chance...

Barnabas’ original name was Joses (or Joseph), and was surnamed Barnabas by the Apostles in Jerusalem. (ref. Acts 4:36,37) And verse 36 tells us that he was “…a Levite (i.e. a Jew) of the country of Cyprus,” He was one of the original believers in the church at Jerusalem.
Acts 9:26,27 tells us that Barnabas took the feared Saul to the Apostles.

Acts 11:19-26.… tells us that Barnabas was sent by the Jerusalem church to Antioch of Syria. There he exhorted the new believers, and then went to Tarsus and got Saul to return with him to the church at Antioch, and… “…a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught many people. And the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.”

Acts 13:1-5... “Now in the church that was at Antioch there were certain prophets and teachers: Barnabas, Simeon who was called Niger (black), Lucius of Cyrene, Manaen who had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul. As they ministered to the Lord and fasted, the Holy Spirit said, ‘Now separate to Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.’ Then, having fasted and prayed, and laid hands on them, they sent them away. So, being sent out by the Holy Spirit, they went down to Seleucia, and from there they sailed to Cyprus. And when they arrived in Salamis, they preached the word of God in the synagogues of the Jews. They also had John (Mark) as their assistant.”

This became known as Paul’s 1st missionary journey, and Saul (which means: “destroyer”) became known as Paul, (which means: “worker”).

After the Jews of Antioch of Pisidia had rejected Paul’s message (Acts 13:13-46), Paul and Barnabas told the Jews “…we turn to the Gentiles.” Much has been made of these words to formulate a doctrine that Paul gave up on the Jews, and was only the Apostle to the Gentiles from then on.

BUT… Acts 14:1...
“Now it happened in Iconium that they (Paul and Barnabas) went together to the synagogue of the Jews, and so spoke that a great multitude both of the Jews and of the Greeks (Gentiles) believed.”

Don’t you think it rather strange that the next place Barnabas and Paul preached was in the synagogue if they had given up on the Jews?

Then in verses 26,27, we are told that Paul and Barnabas ended the 1st missionary journey back at the church Syrian Antioch.

Question: To which church did Barnabas belong? The so-called Pentecost/Apostolic church or the Body Church? Or both?

It is certainly clear that Barnabas preached the same gospel that Paul preached, or Paul would not have associated himself with him. It is equally clear that Barnabas, along with the other Apostles and Silas, who accompanied Paul on his 2nd missionary journey (and was also a Jew from the Jerusalem church), were in full agreement with the gospel that Paul preached. Why? Because there was no difference in their messages. There was, and is, only one legitimate gospel, the virgin birth, sinless life, substitutionary death, and the resurrection of Y’shua, the Lord of Life.
Written by: WAB

 

[eph3Nine]

Interesting to me that no one has answered the question posed in the post referenced.... "To which church did Barnabas belong?..."

Could it be that a truthful answer to said question might refute the "two different church" argument?

Nope...its just not relevant. You are chasing rainbows here and dont understand what you are talking about. We dont need another "chance"....you need to LISTEN and change your mind.

There are many different "called out assemblies" in the scriptures. The fact that its been proven to you and you choose to ignore it to try and shore up your unprovable hypothesis is reason to simply ignore ya.

 

[WAB]

Nope...its just not relevant. You are chasing rainbows here and dont understand what you are talking about. We dont need another "chance"....you need to LISTEN and change your mind.

There are many different "called out assemblies" in the scriptures. The fact that its been proven to you and you choose to ignore it to try and shore up your unprovable hypothesis is reason to simply ignore ya.

My, my, what a scholarly answer to the very clear Scriptures posted.

You have "proven" nothing but the fact that you are a pretty good attacker.

 

[eph3Nine]

My, my, what a scholarly answer to the very clear Scriptures posted.

You have "proven" nothing but the fact that you are a pretty good attacker.

LOL...I have presented my case OVER and OVER with scripture. I am not here to be scholarly, but to present Gods case as clearly as possible. When its been REJECTED and another gospel and another jesus presented in its place...then I cease.

God is the one who tells us what will be our plight when we make the things of His earthly people our focus instead of acknowledging His MYSTERY program and OUR new apostle. We make of ourselves enemies of the Cross...thats BIBLICAL. We make the Cross of none effect. Thats BIBLICAL. We limit our rewards for rightly dividing the Word of Truth...thats BIBLICAL.

I dont find these things to be ATTACKS...but solid WARNINGS from the God who loves us and died for us. There is alot at stake....dont settle for "religion".

 

[billychum]

It is certainly clear that Barnabas preached the same gospel that Paul preached, or Paul would not have associated himself with him. It is equally clear that Barnabas, along with the other Apostles and Silas, who accompanied Paul on his 2nd missionary journey (and was also a Jew from the Jerusalem church), were in full agreement with the gospel that Paul preached.

Make a good point here.

Billy <><