Rate of Abortion is highest in countries where it is illegal

[Gwendolyn]

Abortion rates are higher in countries where the procedure is illegal and nearly half of all abortions worldwide are unsafe, with the vast majority in developing countries, a new study concludes.

Experts could not say whether more liberal laws led to fewer procedures, but said good access to birth control in those countries resulted in fewer unwanted pregnancies.

The global abortion rate remained virtually unchanged from 2003 to 2008, at about 28 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15 to 44, a total of about 43.8 million abortions, according to the study. The rate had previously been dropping since 1995.

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Rate of abortion is highest in countries where practice is banned - Health News - Health & Families - The Independent

I know that in OBOB, many of us are hopeful that making abortion illegal would somehow prevent it... but this article's stats tell us that that just isn't the case.

What do you think?

 

[BabyChristian22]

Abortion rates are higher in countries where the procedure is illegal and nearly half of all abortions worldwide are unsafe, with the vast majority in developing countries, a new study concludes.

Experts could not say whether more liberal laws led to fewer procedures, but said good access to birth control in those countries resulted in fewer unwanted pregnancies.

The global abortion rate remained virtually unchanged from 2003 to 2008, at about 28 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15 to 44, a total of about 43.8 million abortions, according to the study. The rate had previously been dropping since 1995.

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Rate of abortion is highest in countries where practice is banned - Health News - Health & Families - The Independent

I know that in OBOB, many of us are hopeful that making abortion illegal would somehow prevent it... but this article's stats tell us that that just isn't the case.

What do you think?

Even if abortion rates are higher in places where it's illegal I don't think that's the point. Abortion is objectively evil. It is objectively the killing of an innocent baby. It is objectively murder. And murder should never be legal even if the murder rate is higher in places where it is illegal. That's not to say that the women who have had an abortion should not have our sympathy. They need healing. But this message is more for women who have not yet had an abortion and are thinking of getting one.

 

[Gwendolyn]

Even if abortion rates are higher in places where it's illegal I don't think that's the point. Abortion is objectively evil. It is objectively the killing of an innocent baby. It is objectively murder. And murder should never be legal even if the murder rate is higher in places where it is illegal. That's not to say that the women who have had an abortion should not have our sympathy. They need healing. But this message is more for women who have not yet had an abortion and are thinking of getting one.

Definitely. I just thought that these statistics were interesting, because in past discussions here in OBOB, people have claimed that making abortion illegal would mean less abortions. I have to say, it's depressing to see a trend that suggests that would not necessarily be the case. I think it speaks to the desperation that some women feel when they get pregnant, instead of feeling joy

 

[MikeK]

It is also interesting to note that the government paying for abortions doesn't automatically result in more people getting abortions, and that countries with Christian majorities don't have lower abortion rates than non-Christian countries. Another one of those cases where everything you'd expect is wrong.

 

[S.ilvio]

Under developed countries usually have under developed Judicial/policing systems, allowing death doctors ply their evil trade.

However in developed countries like Ireland, where abortion is illegal abortion rates are negligeably low...

 

[Loknar]

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[JacktheCatholic]

So, we are saying abortion is bad. Yes, we know this. That is why we need to not only make it illegal but educate the pagans out there.

 

[Lady Bug]

or the article has a pro-choice or pro-abortion bias to make it look like we should legalize abortion in order to prevent it...

 

[S.ilvio]

So, we are saying abortion is bad. Yes, we know this. That is why we need to not only make it illegal but educate the pagans out there.

Why just pagans...

 

[JacktheCatholic]

Why just pagans...

It was said jokingly. Smile.

 

[BabyChristian22]

Under developed countries usually have under developed Judicial/policing systems, allowing death doctors ply their evil trade.

However in developed countries like Ireland, where abortion is illegal abortion rates are negligeably low...

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[S.ilvio]

It was said jokingly. Smile.

Maybe you're a novice to forum psting so a word to the wise for you from an internet forum veteren. It helps to put a smilie in a joking post. Here to help...

 

[Sarcalogos Deus]

I'm curious as to how you effectively measure abortions when no ones officially keeping track of them (like in US abortion clinics)?

 

[Cosmic Charlie]

Well said!

The Irish generally go to England to get abortions.

The abortion rate in Ireland isn't a good measure of how many women in Ireland have had abortions.

 

[Cosmic Charlie]

Even if abortion rates are higher in places where it's illegal I don't think that's the point. Abortion is objectively evil. It is objectively the killing of an innocent baby. It is objectively murder. And murder should never be legal even if the murder rate is higher in places where it is illegal. That's not to say that the women who have had an abortion should not have our sympathy. They need healing. But this message is more for women who have not yet had an abortion and are thinking of getting one.

From a philosophical standpoint this make no sense to me whatsoever.

What's more important: Stopping evil or telling people there evil is bad and that they shouldn't do even as they do ?

If making murder legal actually dropped the murder rate then you have fewer murdered people if you make murder legal.

Isn't this a good thing ?

 

[S.ilvio]

The Irish generally go to England to get abortions.

The abortion rate in Ireland isn't a good measure of how many women in Ireland have had abortions.

Thank you for confirming my original statement...

Our ban is so successful that women have to travel to another country to get one...

 

[Gwendolyn]

Thank you for confirming my original statement...

Our ban is so successful that women have to travel to another country to get one...

Your ban isn't successful in stopping abortions, since Irish women are still getting abortions.

Your ban is successful in preventing doctors from performing abortions, though.

 

[S.ilvio]

Your ban isn't successful in stopping abortions, since Irish women are still getting abortions.

Your ban is successful in preventing doctors from performing abortions, though.

The Irish Republic has no power to change the child killing laws in the UK unfortunately. We can only answer for our own jurisdiction and have managed to keep the horror of bortion on our soil... Unfortunately we cannot stop Irish women at the air and seaports from travelling to the UK to kill their babies due to EU laws and impracticalities...

 

[MikeK]

I don't understand why more pro lifers don't favor a two pronged approach - work toward banning all abortions, work toward seeing to it that all reasons a woman might want an abortion are addressed by providing food, lodging, no cost quality schooling (including private schools if the parent(s) so choose and care while parents work, no cost healthcare to mother and child until child turns 19 if they like. Both methods seem to work to some extent elsewhere.

 

[BabyChristian22]

I don't understand why more pro lifers don't favor a two pronged approach - work toward banning all abortions, work toward seeing to it that all reasons a woman might want an abortion are addressed by providing food, lodging, no cost quality schooling (including private schools if the parent(s) so choose and care while parents work, no cost healthcare to mother and child until child turns 19 if they like. Both methods seem to work to some extent elsewhere.

You are making a false dichotomy. When has any Pro-life person ever said that they are against helping women after their pregnancy? Remember that the Catholic Church is Pro-life and has done more than anyone else to help the poor. As a matter of fact, there was never any charitable organization in history before the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church was the first and continues to be second to none in helping the poor throughout the world.