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Ragamuffin - Rich Mullins Movie

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I could kick myself for never having seen him live. Over the years, I'd tuned out contemporary Christian music for its non-specific lyrics and industrial feel.

Here's a great example of why I'm enjoying Mullins' music:

Beaker wouldn't snore (Hold me Jesus) - YouTube

Here's why a a Mullins "performance" really wasn't one:

Rich Mullins - Live in Holland, 1994 (Full Concert) - YouTube

I really like how non-materialistic the run-up to this movie is. I went into
a local store of a Christian bookstore chain today to look for some Mullins CDs. No posters about any movie. Most of the staff never heard of him; those that had did not know about the movie. I really think this movie is going to have a deep impact and people will wonder where this "curveball" came from. It's bound to have a "Chariots of Fire" kind of effect.

There were 2 CD's of his; 1 from the Ragamuffin legacy band.

If I were a stakeholder in those kind of stores or Amazon, I'd start stocking up on Mullins CD's now. There will be a run on them . . . for the blessing of hearing it all again, after the movie hits the streets.
 
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What I admired about Rich was that he was
not impressed with himself. He focused on
enabling others, teaching music to Navajo children
and encouraging the music-ministering abilities
of other Christian musicians/instrumentalists.

The "Jesus Record" published after his death is
a curious example. It has one CD that is a
demo of songs that Rich sang and recorded on
a casette tape recorder. The other CD includes
the same songs, sung by the Ragamuffin Band,
which Rich helped form. The Band got Amy Grant,
Phil Keaggy, etc. to also share in the spiritual
wealth on the same CD.

For an explanation:

Rich Mullins & A Ragamuffin Band - The Jesus Record, Radio Special - YouTube

Other examples: Rich wrote "Agnus Dei" for Michael W. Smith
to sing:

Agnus Dei by Michael W. Smith with lyrics - YouTube

One might ask, "How down to earth was Rich?" Well, imagine going from the "Agnus Dei" song to the following popular game that Rich invented and for which he made up a song! All I can do is scratch my head and nod my head to, "Unless you become like a little child . . . "

Rich Mullins Screen Door - YouTube
 
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No official release date has been announced for the movie, but if I'm correctly piecing things together, a Twitter link on the Ragamuffin movie cites the "World Premiere" as January 9 at 7 p.m. at the Wichita, KS Orpheum Theatre!
 
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One of the wonderful things about Rich’s testimony was his fondness for the Bride of Christ, the Church. He was a Christian’s Christian, with much for several denominations to relate to. For his admiration for the profession at baptism: Disciples of Christ and Church of Christ; for weekly communion, Presbyterians; for the effective walk in Christ, evangelicals; for confessional groups, his late-blooming zeal for liturgy. It appears he was fast-headed for the initiation rite as a Catholic. Although there has been almost universal support for him from all these groups, there has been some hyper-dogmatic against . . . and even for him. Concerning the latter, there are some immature catholic bloggers who seem to be counting coup over Rich’s last year desires and some crass protestant posters who can’t seem to get out of their anti-Catholicism. But some folks will never get Rich. Had he entered the RCC, his penchant for poking the finger of his scrutiny into the eye of hypocritical practices (and every denomination has--surprise!--people who act this way) would have made not a few in that confession squirm. Not out of meanness or brash behavior but by sincere forthrightness. No “nice” adherent, but a joyful sinner more interested in being true to Jesus than propping the walls of a denomination. Creed with a conscience. I posted a similar observation on one catholic’s blog site and got a prompt notice that it had been rejected. Such is the practice of rejoicing without really engaging what made Rich fully tick. I also replied to a protestant’s website comment about Rich being a heretic—saying that I hold Rich’s legacy in the highest regard and that if he isn’t welcome into Heaven for his testimony to Christ, none of us stand a bat’s chance. I believe that Rich would never have stood for communing with believers in a spirit of “gotcha”, “we’re the ones” and “you’re not”. I just listened to Rich sing “Creed” from this link. This says enough:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LR2hFP1yb4
 
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The truth is, a lot of folks didn’t notice
Rich Mullins’ music until after his death.
I was one. I suppose it was because
I had written off “contemporary Christian”
music for a long time. And it didn’t help
that when I randomly came across some
of his songs during the hiatus, these
would be the more pop sounding of
them—or “Awesome God” would play.
Although a great song, it would be sung over
and over again mantra style in church services.
I had no patience for that practice.

How did I start paying attention to Rich’s
music? Mainly by watching his sessions
on Youtube, ones with solos and ones
in which he sang with either his friends
Beaker, Mitch, or the Ragamuffin Band, etc.
The variety of the music styles and the
penetrating lyrics intrigued me. But the
thing that hooked me was the way he
integrated his passion for Christ, the Church
and his earthly concerns with the audience.
In a way, too, you could tell he was tilling
the soil of his faith at the same time. The
dynamism of all this jolted me awake to the
fact that Christian music ministry need not be
sucked into the “industry” aspect of things.
More importantly, I was more inspired to
walk the walk of faith within my own vocation.

So there I went, diving into the music as
fast and as often as I could. And I still don’t
tire of it, though I listen to it less. I can just
sense from his “teachings” that he pushed us
to look to Jesus and not idolize him or anyone
else.

In case anyone has wondered, I’m not associated
with any promotional aspects of Rich’s music nor
with the the movie that is coming out next
January. Just your average Joe on the street.

Rich was an open book—and so his music. It just seems that in him,
David tossed his lyre aside and took up the piano, guitar and dulcimer.

He sang about the external, internal, communal, social,
relational and emotional aspects of our Faith in the context of life.
The contrasts could be eye-popping, no more so than in
the “Jesus Record”, a memorial compilation of songs,
the majority of which he wrote. The last two songs on the
“Ragamuffin Band” side of the two-CD album are a case in point.
These are “Hard to Get” and lastly, “That Where I Am”. These
show the normal tensions in Rich’s and every Christian’s life,
although much of church culture seems to gloss over the theme of
“Hard to Get”, because we’re taught that such David-like
self-examination is selfish and introspective. To which I say
“nonsense”.

Here are those two songs, but taken from the rough cut
(only Rich singing) CD demo in the album. The Ragamuffin
Band (with guests) CD is a revamp of the demo songs: wonderful adjustments
that are well worth listening to and contemplating as well.

"Hard to Get":

Rich Mullins - Hard to Get - YouTube



"That Where I Am":

That Where I Am, There You May Also Be ~ Rich Mullins - YouTube
 
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Saludos Talitha!

(me gusta el nombre tan biblico).

I can only imagine. I attended Highland Baptist in Waco while
studying at Baylor U. That church effectively used the Word and
fellowship to feed my soul--and how it nutured a desire in me
to experience the knowledge and presence of our Lord in the
everyday!

I hope the movie is quickly translated into Spanish for our
paises vecinos

En Cristo,

Quaz
 
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Even when one is “into” the story of Jesus—and all the immense
things this commitment implies, there will always be a spiritual
battle until we are ushered into His presence and peace.

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,
against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against
the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms (Ephesians 6:12 - NIV)

Rich’s final lyrics in the song below are very direct about this: Feels like the devil’s rolled a stone onto my heart. Can you roll that stone . . . away?

Rich Mullins - Jesus - YouTube

Having great Light on this earth does not blind us from the darkness around us. At times there seems to be dimness, not because that Light has lessened, but because our discernment can flicker. Therefore the need to be renewed in our minds by the Holy Spirit daily. And let us remember, this renewal is within a walk; it is not the mere espousing of ideas:

22 You were taught, with regard to your former way of life, to put off your old self, which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires; 23 to be made new in the attitude of your minds; 24 and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness (Ephesians 4:22-23 NIV)

Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper worship. 2 Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will (Romans 12:1-2 NIV)
 
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Wow, Talitha! That is great! So many fond memories. Was Don Crossland still the pastor? It was a great place to learn "How not to backslide when taking Religion 101". Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

Say, I just e-mailed Anderson University (SC)--I live nearby, to ask if they would be willing to host the movie. I'm hoping Baylor U. will do the same for its community.
 
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I’m not sure where I read or heard Rich Mullins say it,
but he mentioned something to the effect that he did
not write “gospel” style music. Well, that seems to be true
as far as his overall style. Mind you, I’m no musician, I cannot
read music, nor do I play an instrument, but don’t these songs
have at least a hint of gospel?


One thing for sure, God is glorified through them!


I can't wait to see/hear how Rich's songs are distributed in
the Ragamuffin movie.


Alrightokuhhuhamen . . .

Rich Mullins - Alrightokuhhuhamen - YouTube



Where You Are:

Where You Are - Rich Mullins - YouTube



The just shall live . . .

Rich Mullins: The just shall live - YouTube
 
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I anticipate that "Ragamuffin" will capture
Rich's pithy ways of expression. Here's a fine
example, as shared by Carolyn Arends.

You Probably Won't Be Sent to Egypt… | Christianity Today

There are many timely posts out on Facebook
about how, far from idolising Rich, we instead see
a person who is a role model for abandonment to Christ.
The flipside of total "entrega" (as they say in Spanish)
is contentment in Christ in all things. I think that's one
aspect about Rich's life that fascinates and resonates
with people. We know these themes to be paradoxical
yet true . . . and absolutely necessary for faithfulness
to Christ, his Church and for obeying the two greatest
commandments.
 
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Wow, Talitha! That is great! So many fond memories. Was Don Crossland still the pastor?
I was there when Barry Camp was the pastor. I did missions training under Jimmy Seibert and Jeff Bianchi. Know any of them?
 
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Across the web runs the question, who replaces Rich Mullins? Two ways to approach this, I think. One is “Who, in his total person seems most like Rich?”

The other, and I think the best way, is "Who are the people who best exhibit certains parts of Rich’s ministry?" In a way, I don't like the latter question, in that Rich simply lived life in a unique body, mind and set of emotions that God gave him—and with that, he sought out Christ in the light, gray and dark side of things. Yet, I’ll still run with that criteria.

Music-wise, best song that captures Rich's vision: "Man of No Reputation", by Rick Elias. You can find this on Youtube.

Music-wise, overall? I suppose it would be Andrew Peterson. No first place here. Just that he comes most to-mind. Mitch McVicker and Tom Conlon should be considered, too. Below are three songs, one from each.


Gifted explainer? Carolyn Arends (see my post #17)


Christian with a social conscience? Franklin Graham


Mystic? John Michael Talbot

Of course, all of this could easily be reshuffled or replaced. I just think it is exciting how the Body gets blessed by individuals who inspire a walk with Christ via the unique talents each of us has been given!

I anticipate that the "Ragamuffin" movie will leave each of us asking, "What gifts has God given me to exploit for the benefit of the Kingdom . . . for the benefit of others?"


ANDREW PETERSON: Andrew Peterson sings "Hosanna" - YouTube

TOM CONLON: Tom Conlon "Sacred Things" - YouTube

MITCH MCVICKER: Mitch McVicker sings "My Deliverer" - YouTube
 
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