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<blockquote data-quote="aiki" data-source="post: 69126257" data-attributes="member: 178791"><p>Why are you appalled? As an atheist, on what grounds do you object to what Muslim terrorists are doing? As far as I can see, atheism doesn't provide you with any sort of objective grounding for what you might consider moral. If there is no God, you have just one human or group of humans telling other humans what to do. Morality, on an atheistic worldview, is a matter of social conditioning and preference, not anything objective and binding. So, again, I wonder why you are appalled? Are you, perhaps, importing into your atheistic worldview some Judeo-Christian morality? It looks like it to me...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, I think the slaughter of non-Christians is even more horrible than the slaughter of Christians. I know that there is an eternal reward awaiting the Christian dead, but there is no such reward awaiting any who die rejecting God's gift of salvation found in Jesus Christ. It is not just horrible that non-Christians are killed but that they enter eternity facing God's righteous wrath.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Islam has borrowed its "laws" from the OT without any greater justification than that it suited Muhammed to do so. And make no mistake, the god of the Q'uran is <em><u>not</u></em> the God of Abraham. Islam has taken the OT laws of separation meant <em>only</em> for the Israelites and applied it to Muslims and in so doing has twisted and made obscene the laws God meant to be holy.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hardly. This statement reveals your ignorance of the OT - and the Q'uran. And, by the way, the Israelites never described themselves as followers of "the religion of peace." They lived among antagonistic and war-mongering nations that attacked the Israelites fairly frequently.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And you have, in large part, Judeo-Christian values and ethics to thank for the "tolerant" society in which you live.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Very definitely. Already much intolerance has been fomented by the likes of Richard Dawkins, and Sam Harris, and Bill Maher who are constantly urging an environment of intolerance and hatred toward the religious. But they will not stem the tide of Islam that is overtaking the world. Europe is already lost. And North America is rapidly approaching a similar demise. Vast resources of Muslim oil money and a much higher fertility rate among Muslims will be the main avenues through which Islam will rise to terrible, deadly global dominance.</p><p></p><p>Selah.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="aiki, post: 69126257, member: 178791"] Why are you appalled? As an atheist, on what grounds do you object to what Muslim terrorists are doing? As far as I can see, atheism doesn't provide you with any sort of objective grounding for what you might consider moral. If there is no God, you have just one human or group of humans telling other humans what to do. Morality, on an atheistic worldview, is a matter of social conditioning and preference, not anything objective and binding. So, again, I wonder why you are appalled? Are you, perhaps, importing into your atheistic worldview some Judeo-Christian morality? It looks like it to me... Well, I think the slaughter of non-Christians is even more horrible than the slaughter of Christians. I know that there is an eternal reward awaiting the Christian dead, but there is no such reward awaiting any who die rejecting God's gift of salvation found in Jesus Christ. It is not just horrible that non-Christians are killed but that they enter eternity facing God's righteous wrath. Islam has borrowed its "laws" from the OT without any greater justification than that it suited Muhammed to do so. And make no mistake, the god of the Q'uran is [I][U]not[/U][/I] the God of Abraham. Islam has taken the OT laws of separation meant [I]only[/I] for the Israelites and applied it to Muslims and in so doing has twisted and made obscene the laws God meant to be holy. Hardly. This statement reveals your ignorance of the OT - and the Q'uran. And, by the way, the Israelites never described themselves as followers of "the religion of peace." They lived among antagonistic and war-mongering nations that attacked the Israelites fairly frequently. And you have, in large part, Judeo-Christian values and ethics to thank for the "tolerant" society in which you live. Very definitely. Already much intolerance has been fomented by the likes of Richard Dawkins, and Sam Harris, and Bill Maher who are constantly urging an environment of intolerance and hatred toward the religious. But they will not stem the tide of Islam that is overtaking the world. Europe is already lost. And North America is rapidly approaching a similar demise. Vast resources of Muslim oil money and a much higher fertility rate among Muslims will be the main avenues through which Islam will rise to terrible, deadly global dominance. Selah. [/QUOTE]
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