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<blockquote data-quote="ThatRobGuy" data-source="post: 74735833" data-attributes="member: 123415"><p>You're still asking two different questions here "how long is it going to be an excuse for lack of success?" vs. "when are you gonna start treating us as equal?" are addressing two different things.</p><p></p><p>Something explaining why an inequity exists is simply providing reasoning and has nothing to do with treatment of other people.</p><p></p><p>For instance, I could say "The reason why John is having hard times is because he broke his leg on the job, got laid off, and got caught up with pain pills and hasn't been able to bounce back yet". That has nothing to do with me treating him as equal or unequal, it's just providing the reasons for a particular financial outcome.</p><p></p><p>So, to summarize...</p><p>I did answer your original question, in that the generational income pattern data I provided explains that past institutional racism isn't just "an excuse for lack of success", it's perfectly valid and reasonable explanation for a financial inequity that exists. It's got nothing to do with treating people as equal or unequal in present day.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Technically, I could make the argument that having the expectation that a group of people should be expected to bounce back from poverty exponentially faster than the average rate (of 5 generations), otherwise "they're just using it as an excuse" is treating them unequally, as it's putting an expectation on them that's not being placed on anyone else, and drastically contrasts the statistical data we have on the subject.</p><p></p><p>For instance, if we were talking about the issue of drug addiction...a widely accepted stat is that it takes approximately 90 days to both A) break the chemical addiction as well as B) rewire your brain to remove the behavioral patterns that go along with it to avoid relapse.</p><p></p><p>If I singled out one particular group, and put the expectation on them that they should be able to accomplish that in 5 days and if they don't "they're just making an excuse", that would be treating them unfairly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ThatRobGuy, post: 74735833, member: 123415"] You're still asking two different questions here "how long is it going to be an excuse for lack of success?" vs. "when are you gonna start treating us as equal?" are addressing two different things. Something explaining why an inequity exists is simply providing reasoning and has nothing to do with treatment of other people. For instance, I could say "The reason why John is having hard times is because he broke his leg on the job, got laid off, and got caught up with pain pills and hasn't been able to bounce back yet". That has nothing to do with me treating him as equal or unequal, it's just providing the reasons for a particular financial outcome. So, to summarize... I did answer your original question, in that the generational income pattern data I provided explains that past institutional racism isn't just "an excuse for lack of success", it's perfectly valid and reasonable explanation for a financial inequity that exists. It's got nothing to do with treating people as equal or unequal in present day. Technically, I could make the argument that having the expectation that a group of people should be expected to bounce back from poverty exponentially faster than the average rate (of 5 generations), otherwise "they're just using it as an excuse" is treating them unequally, as it's putting an expectation on them that's not being placed on anyone else, and drastically contrasts the statistical data we have on the subject. For instance, if we were talking about the issue of drug addiction...a widely accepted stat is that it takes approximately 90 days to both A) break the chemical addiction as well as B) rewire your brain to remove the behavioral patterns that go along with it to avoid relapse. If I singled out one particular group, and put the expectation on them that they should be able to accomplish that in 5 days and if they don't "they're just making an excuse", that would be treating them unfairly. [/QUOTE]
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