r u a performer or worshipper?

Barrenlimb · Jun 17, 2005

I am a facilitator. I save my deep personal worship time for when I am alone with the Lord. Come service time, my task is to facilitate corporate worship for the body of believers. Jesus did public ministry, and had private time with the Father.

I am not sure what this means. Anytime I go into worship it is both deep and personal whether I am on stage or in my room at home. If it wasn't personal and it wasn't deep than what is the point of it.

By facilitation of corporate worship, you are taking the body of believers into the presence of God. To the holy of holies. I would think that this type of worship is both deep and pesronal. Am I missing something here?

I understand that Jesus did public ministry and had private time, but his private time overflowed into his ministry causing that much more closeness with his Father. They weren't seperate purposes, but all to fulfill one purpose.

DrGather · Jun 17, 2005

I fail to see how worship and performing are two different things.

Anything can be worship, so long as it's done for God, and with God on your mind, and in worship to him.

Worship is a state, not a single verb.

openup4christ · Aug 1, 2005

i am in the worship team i play piano. And @first i was preforming now I am a true worshiper and i feel the presense of God the most when i play

icklemissmerry · Aug 1, 2005

ive led worship (i sing n play guitar) in services for 2 years now, and there is a fine line between performing and worshiping and like so many have already said, both aspects are needed in some way. But ive found through every service its become more and more for God, which is great.

I find focusing completely and thinking of each word as a conversation between you and God when singing helps you worship so well, just detail it, really mean what you sing. I've found that if you concentrate on your meaning and your coming to meet with God, others do find this an encouragement and emulate it. The congregation find comfort in the worship of the band if they see the band worshipping, than if they are merely performing. It's all about impulses felt and just an over flow of emotions that is so hard to beat - knowing you've helped others experience what you've experienced, and meeting with God!!!

Abbie
"I can do everything through Him who gives me strength" - Phillipians 4:13

TheKeyboardist · Aug 4, 2005

Keyboardist. Im a performer, play keyboard during praise.

flaglady · Aug 4, 2005

Interesting thread - I'm not part of our worship team but I use flags during worship and have quite a prominent position beside the podium (courtesy of the pastor!) so the flags do impact the fellowship and add the to the efforts of the worship team (so I'm told!!).

But worship or performance? Well, I always have an open heart to the Spirit and whilst I follow certain routines that He has given me, I do occasionally move from the side of the podium to centre front when it seems appropriate. Strangely, it's those times when I'm most strongly 'in the Spirit', the times when one might be forgiven for thinking I'm giving a performance!!!

But God sees into our hearts and knows the difference.

Bless you all!

KristianJ · Aug 5, 2005

I'll throw the word "servant" into the frypan as well. Performance and worship are IMHO easy to differentiate in that a performer carries out their craft for a degree of self-satisfaction and to in a way entertain their audience. But in worship there's no room for self-satisfaction, nor entertaining an audience. Performance is in its essence by people, for people. Worship is by people, for God. And in my role as a music leader, I see myself more as a servant who serves God and His people, and facilitates a corporate display of worship. True, I am a worshipper in the fundamental essence of the word, but in my role on a Sunday, I am worshipping God through an act of service.

I do like how Geezerjohn phrased his response

Geezerjohn · Aug 5, 2005

Barrenlimb said:
I am not sure what this means. Anytime I go into worship it is both deep and personal whether I am on stage or in my room at home. If it wasn't personal and it wasn't deep than what is the point of it.

By facilitation of corporate worship, you are taking the body of believers into the presence of God. To the holy of holies. I would think that this type of worship is both deep and pesronal. Am I missing something here?

I understand that Jesus did public ministry and had private time, but his private time overflowed into his ministry causing that much more closeness with his Father. They weren't seperate purposes, but all to fulfill one purpose.

The point is that public, corporate worship and private personal worship are two different things. I can, and do have a time of worship in a public corporate setting, but it is not the same as private worship because when leading worship in a public forum I have duties that require my attention that I do not have to tend to during a private time.

Jesus' private time and public ministry did fulfill one purpose, but they were two separate activities. If not, why go off by Himself to pray?

Tamara77777 · Aug 5, 2005

Def. a worshipper!!!! LOVE TO WORSHIP!!!!

LazyGuy · Aug 16, 2005

I've read that the worship leader is also the lead worshipper, i.e. every one is a worshipper.

Showmanship / performance should be cut down to the minimum. The focus is on God.

I've read an article that likens worship leading to leading sheep up the hill to graze the grass there.

Some worship leaders went up the hill alone, enjoying himself but leaving the sheep behind.

Some worship leaders dragged the sheep up with much effort, but the sheep didn't eat.

Some worship leaders led the sheep up the hill and let them enjoy their meal.

If at the end of a worship, someone approached us and tell us they admired the way we worshipped instead of marvelling at God, then something is VERY wrong.

The same goes for a preacher who gets praised while the Lord is shoved aside.

The focus is on God.

yod · Aug 19, 2005

DrGather said:
I fail to see how worship and performing are two different things.

Anything can be worship, so long as it's done for God, and with God on your mind, and in worship to him.

Worship is a state, not a single verb.

I agree with this statement.

they do not have to be mutually exclusive terms.

4childofgod · Aug 21, 2005

I am a worshipper! On a worship team I get caught up into worship that sometimes I forget the congregation is even there.

McDLT · Aug 21, 2005

4childofgod said:
I am a worshipper! On a worship team I get caught up into worship that sometimes I forget the congregation is even there.

I'm curious as to how you lead the congregation if you forget they are there? Maybe I'm missing a piece here. I just want to figure it out. Thanks so much.

LazyGuy · Aug 22, 2005

Perhaps 4childofgod meant she is no longer distracted by the congregation...

underwater_monkey · Sep 17, 2005

u kno thats really awsome! ok i play the drums for my worship team...and some times its like" im gonna go proform awsome...but like right befor u go on ...just check yourself...because.. if u dont sometimes your frusterated witht the leader for something he did...or stuff like that(u kno how that gos) but yea make sure your only plain to impress God...the almighty jesus christ, the almighty Yaweh...he s so increadable u kno.....sry not tryin to get deep or anything..hes just so amazing well be blessd...byebye

Paul789 · Sep 18, 2005

This answer to this question sounds wrong, but I would like to show you why deep down it isn't.
When we lead worship to a congregation I believe that we are in performance. This is because when we are leading worship we need to always have the churches interest at heart, listening to the Holy spirit for where the focus needs to go next. I believe that if we are worshipping God through our lifestyle, and bringing to him our Sunday praise time in our own bedrooms- at a dedicatted time during the week-then we are then able to perform the leading to the church.
This may sound crazy but if we, as a leader, get lost in worship then we are not able to meet the needs of the church. If we are to fill our lives with the Holy Spirit outside of church then we are able to have the characters to perform the songs in worship. Perform is the wrong word for this though, it's about being aware.

cryofmercy · Sep 22, 2005

I am a worshipper who worships God through the guitar which God gave me the talent to worship him with.

God Bless, Corrin

allieisme · Oct 1, 2005

I was on the choir at my church, and I absolutely loved it.
We would actually get the awesome abilities to go around the city and bless folks, Christian or not.
It was great

wfcamb · Oct 9, 2005

Hello.. I am a worship leader, and I do find it hard not to focus on myself.. I guess I could say I somewhat struggle in that area at times.. I think the only way not to focus on yourself, is to realize who it is that gave you that talent, and without it, you are useless. I think we as worship leaders and musicians/vocalists need to keep these things in our minds and in our hearts so when that temptation arises, we are ready to face it. I know personally that feeling or temptation to say, "Look at me!" or "I did good". This temptation is now something that is very much unwanted in my life. Does it still arise? Sure.. But at least when it comes, I know how to handle it. I suppose that would be an example of how that little reminder of where we get our talent helps us turn in the right direction.

Well.. That's my thoughts on that.. What do you all think?

God Bless!

lifesavingdecision · Oct 9, 2005

Our Ministry is for teens and Young Adults. I guess you would have to call what we do a performance... Because the kids don't know the lyrics and they are not on a screen for them to sing to So what we do is not really Worship. But Then I think of it this way... Teens can really relate to the music we do. By doing this music for God we are also in Worship. It's Just not Worship like on a Sunday service. We also give testimony and short messages to the teens. So the fact that we do all this for God is Worship!!! But its not labled as a Worship Service.
GOOD TOPIC!!! Please take the time to check out our music groups web site. And please keep an open mind and remember that this music is intended to reach Young Adults. Thank You!!

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