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1.Can you still listen to death/black metal (among other metal)?
2.Can you read the Satanic bible just for fun?
3. Is it okay to like Marilyn Manson?
4. Does it mattter if you are gothic ?
5. can you pray to god even if you are not sure you believe in him ?

i want you guys to give me some feedback on this :)
 
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1.Can you still listen to death/black metal (among other metal)?
2.Can you read the Satanic bible just for fun?
3. Is it okay to like Marilyn Manson?
4. Does it mattter if you are gothic ?
5. can you pray to god even if you are not sure you believe in him ?

i want you guys to give me some feedback on this :)


First, Off welcome to the forum. I am new here too.

I am not claiming to know the correct answers but will give my oppinion.

I believe to answer all the questions, in my belief its all about the heart. I believe Jesus wants a personal relationship with you and if you are a christian you will want to have a relationship with Jesus which also means you will want to do things that you believe will make him happy. So maybe answer the question for yourself. Do you believe that the above 5 things would be good for your relationship or damaging.

Blessings :)
 
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1 Corinthians 10:23 "All things are lawful, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful, but not all things edify."

It's up to you to really think about the individual things and make a call on them and how they affect you, but I'm happy to give my own opinions :)


1.Can you still listen to death/black metal (among other metal)?

I'd say so, but take caution with each individual song/band.
Personally I like Nightwish, but don't listen to their song The Kinslayer as it has a bit in the middle that goes on about there being no God, and I get uncomfortable listening to it, but that's me. (This is in the 'other metal' section, I wouldn't class them as death or black).

Depending on what mood I'm in I can find that metal relaxes me, so can be beneficial.

2.Can you read the Satanic bible just for fun?

Yes, but again in the knowledge of what it is. Likewise you can read the Qur'an, the Bhagavad Gita and any other religious text. It is good to know where other people are coming from, but being aware to not be too taken in by what they say.

3. Is it okay to like Marilyn Manson?

It's never okay to like Marilyn Manson ;)

4. Does it mattter if you are gothic ?

It doesn't matter per se, but it can matter if it comes between you and God (with regards to situations you find yourself in...). Alice Cooper (I know not massively Gothic, but kinda down that route more than the average Christian) converted to Christianity well enough and has said
"Drinking beer is easy. Trashing your hotel room is easy. But being a Christian, that's a tough call. That's rebellion."

5. can you pray to god even if you are not sure you believe in him ?

i want you guys to give me some feedback on this :)

Absolutely, God hears all prayers, he answers all prayers, though not necessarily in the way we want, the way we expect, or when we want.


Hope that helps
 
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Hi Princess, welcome to CF, fellow Joisey boy here!

1.Can you still listen to death/black metal (among other metal)?
2.Can you read the Satanic bible just for fun?
3. Is it okay to like Marilyn Manson?
4. Does it mattter if you are gothic ?
5. can you pray to god even if you are not sure you believe in him ?

i want you guys to give me some feedback on this :)

Others have hit on the important part, but my .02 adds that He LOVES US! He actually enjoys our company, and no part of the Gospel removes our personality. So YOUR contribution (apart from sin of course) will become a vital aspect throughout Eternity. :bow:

Yeah, let that sink in.

My first Pastor sometimes wore a baseball cap that said "Let God change you." He had quite a knack for knowing when to just SHUT UP, smile, and call attention to it, for whoever was asking him an important question such as this. Make sense?

There's a difference btw knowing righteousness from sin (Biblical Wisdom) from actually choosing the right path. (Understanding, per Proverbs) I personally am curious how much of Jesus' own prayer time, for Himself, not as instruction to those around Him, was spent on this very thing. I expect nearly ALL of it! He is, after all, the One who said "the Spirit is willing but the flesh is weak." So actually making any change in our life will require G-d's Spirit, His life, His energy - which is quite different from just "His help." He's not a crutch but a stretcher!

So as a musician born-and-raised, and a convert to Christianity for some 30 years now, my own personal observations are:

1. Style of music is not forbidden, but do be aware of what affect(s) it may have on you, and use wisely. Lyrics? HUGE! Personally I ADORE the lead singer of Sacred Warrior and wish I could sing like that. Very heavy metal. Pretty old stuff by now though. "Screamo," w/ heavy distortion added to the voice I have heard used effectively a total of ONCE. Some of it was garbled noise, but out of that din came an intelligible section of horrible Judgment. It was 100% Biblical, and extremely musical as well; i.e., effective. Good for more than just "getting you going in the morning!" Struggling against sin, adding conviction, it could be a very useful tool as long as you're not drawn into loving Spiritual darkness.

2. I would say no. NO. Hell no. But again, these are my convictions. For me, just watching fear movies opens the door to evil. Even cheesy old ones. OTOH, G-d uses me as a musician to reach out to others, primarily other musicians, in situations most Christians simply couldn't do anything but sin.

3. Marilyn Manson I have a great deal of respect for. Wish I had the cool technology he has now when I was your age, I sure would've experimented with a lot of the things he's recorded. Realize he is motivated by pretty much 100% flesh, and that is our most commonplace enemy. Be honest about if it tears you down, etc.

4. Goth. "I am made all things to all [men], that I might by all means save some." 1 Cor 9:22 Also we are called to remain in whatever facet of life we were in when we were first saved, not to drastically uproot our lives. So your history becomes important here. Were you unsaved, and on the goth scene? Well, your testimony is within that circle. Do learn the difference between Spiritual light and darkness, as it's a VERY central Biblical element! The 2 are NOT equal yet opposite, as yin / yang proclaims. Job deals with this right in the beginning. If you just wear black, that's quite different from some other things certain gothic practices signify. A lot of is simply appreciating art and architecture, and has MUCH overlap with the Baroque period, Handel's Messiah, etc. :thumbsup:

5. This "not sure" stuff takes many forms. Mark 9:24 And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief." If you read the context here, you'll see this is one of the more effectual prayers any of us could ever pray. :hug:
 
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1 Corinthians 10:23 "All things are lawful, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful, but not all things edify."

It's up to you to really think about the individual things and make a call on them and how they affect you, but I'm happy to give my own opinions
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Originally Posted by Zombieprincess1979
1.Can you still listen to death/black metal (among other metal)?
I'd say so, but take caution with each individual song/band.
Personally I like Nightwish, but don't listen to their song The Kinslayer as it has a bit in the middle that goes on about there being no God, and I get uncomfortable listening to it, but that's me. (This is in the 'other metal' section, I wouldn't class them as death or black).

Depending on what mood I'm in I can find that metal relaxes me, so can be beneficial.


Originally Posted by Zombieprincess1979
2.Can you read the Satanic bible just for fun?
Yes, but again in the knowledge of what it is. Likewise you can read the Qur'an, the Bhagavad Gita and any other religious text. It is good to know where other people are coming from, but being aware to not be too taken in by what they say.


Originally Posted by Zombieprincess1979
3. Is it okay to like Marilyn Manson?
It's never okay to like Marilyn Manson
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Originally Posted by Zombieprincess1979
4. Does it mattter if you are gothic ?
It doesn't matter per se, but it can matter if it comes between you and God (with regards to situations you find yourself in...). Alice Cooper (I know not massively Gothic, but kinda down that route more than the average Christian) converted to Christianity well enough and has said
"Drinking beer is easy. Trashing your hotel room is easy. But being a Christian, that's a tough call. That's rebellion."


Originally Posted by Zombieprincess1979
5. can you pray to god even if you are not sure you believe in him ?

i want you guys to give me some feedback on this
smile.gif

Absolutely, God hears all prayers, he answers all prayers, though not necessarily in the way we want, the way we expect, or when we want.


Hope that helps

Mr daves answer was fairly close to mine so i repeated it. Its what is our heart that is important i'll say that i believe that we are affected by the music, books and movies that we indulge in. so while it is not impossible to read the satanic bible, listen to dark music , read about the occult and be a christian it would be more dificult.
 
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