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I was not raised in the church, and only recently (4 years ago) came to know Christ.
no, because they are two different thingsIs the authority of the Roman Catholic Pope threatened by the authority of the Bible? Why or why not?
ChristWho is the supreme leader of the Church: Christ or the Pope?
we are saved by the grace of God, through faith, but also remember that faith without works is deadDoes the Pope (and the Catholic church) promote a works-based or faith-based salvation?
not sure what you mean by thisDo all Catholic churches fall under the Roman Catholic church?
it is based on bothWas Mary without sin? If so, was she purified at the moment of conception? If so, is this an assumption based on the character of Christ or found in scripture?
the Eastern Catholic Churches have this practice, the Latin Church does notWhat is the Catholic view of paedocommunion (bringing children to the Lord's Table)?
"we know where the Church is, not where it is not"Do Catholics believe that true Christians can be found in any of the other denominations?
they are our friends, our brothers and sisters in ChristExplain the requirement/need/benefit of praying to saints over directly to God.
The Pope is the one who pronounced what scriptures were... so how could the One put in Peter's chair who thru Tradition and the Holy Spirit - be in error or against that which only He could accept?Looking for some civil discussion between Protestants and the Old Church. I have a few questions I am hoping to get answered. I was not raised in the church, and only recently (4 years ago) came to know Christ. I've only attended PCA (Presbyterian Church of America) since then, and know very little of other denominations especially Catholic. Help me understand the Catholic ways!
Is the authority of the Roman Catholic Pope threatened by the authority of the Bible? Why or why not?
The Pope is the visible place of Jesus on earth.Who is the supreme leader of the Church: Christ or the Pope?
Youy cannot have one without the other.Does the Pope (and the Catholic church) promote a works-based or faith-based salvation?
Yes... Eastern or Western - the head of the Church is the Pope.Do all Catholic churches fall under the Roman Catholic church?
Jesus breathed the Spirit on the apostles and said to go out and forgive or HOLD BOUND sins - and the same would hold in Heaven.Where can I find the institution of the additional five sacraments by Jesus? In addition, can sins be forgiven without confessing to men?
Yes - www.drbo.orgDoes the Catholic church still use the Latin Vulgate of Jerome?
She was foretold - in Gensis 6.Was Mary without sin? If so, was she purified at the moment of conception? If so, is this an assumption based on the character of Christ or found in scripture?
The East does that...in infancy [some anyway] when baptized.What is the Catholic view of paedocommunion (bringing children to the Lord's Table)?
They really dont have a choice but be part of the Church since baptism is equal to all.Do Catholics believe that true Christians can be found in any of the other denominations?
The only thing God cannot do is go against Himself.What is the Catholic stance on the sovereignty of God (all things, some, etc)?
Saints are just like the living on earth.Explain the requirement/need/benefit of praying to saints over directly to God.
I just want to suggest....It dawns on me that perhaps a further comment on the Communing of children might be helpful.
In the East [ Catholic and Orthodox , and very probably the Oriental Catholics and Orthodox ] we do Commune our children. Many Latin Catholics and Protestants feel that this is wrong - a child needs to be aware of Whom he /she is Receiving , and also needs to be aware of the difference between right and wrong.
Putting it very very simply , [and I used this illustration recently as my Ukrainian Priest was talking with a Latin Catholic man who has started coming to our Mission, and getting himself into deep water because his English was just not up to the job] we give babies and children physical food for their physical growth - yes ?
We believe very strongly that we should also give our young children Spiritual Food - the Body and most Precious Blood of Our Lord God and Saviour , Jesus Christ for their Spiritual Growth. Babies are Communed with a Drop of the Most Precious Blood until their parents and priest decide they are ready , physically , to Receive His Body [ remember we use leavened bread ]
Because it is OBOB.You equate "Old Church" with the Roman Catholic Church, but not the Eastern Orthodox Church. Just curious why.
Because it is OBOB.
Not being nit picky - but why come in here to subtly proselytize?
I just want to suggest....
I am not sure many Latin Rite Catholics feel that way - most dont even know the East exists or their practices.
As for having an opinion myself - it doesnt matter to me, i find culture being poignant in all things related to how we practice which doesnt undermine any Rite or the other.
If you believe this then you are not a child of God, but His slave; which I guess makes you a Muslim. Just kidding on that part, but that is what Muslims do believe. We are called to be children of God. Children are not slaves, even though we as parents may treat them as such when they are young. But as that child grows into adulthood, his/her freedom grows. As adults we are completely free and can do whatever we want. Slaves on the other hand are always slaves, and die as slaves; unless made free. With us human beings we were slaves, slaves to sin. Christ through His redemptive act, made us free.
Remember that God wants children not slaves. Children have freedom, especially when they mature to adulthood; slaves do not.
Martin Luther, the Catholic monk turned founding champion of Protestantism, proclaimed the doctrine of Sola Scriptura, which means that the Bible is the final authority.
It is a universal doctrine among all non-catholic churches.
Looking for some civil discussion between Protestants and the Old Church. I have a few questions I am hoping to get answered. I was not raised in the church, and only recently (4 years ago) came to know Christ. I've only attended PCA (Presbyterian Church of America) since then, and know very little of other denominations especially Catholic. Help me understand the Catholic ways!
Is the authority of the Roman Catholic Pope threatened by the authority of the Bible? Why or why not?
Who is the supreme leader of the Church: Christ or the Pope?
Does the Pope (and the Catholic church) promote a works-based or faith-based salvation?
Do all Catholic churches fall under the Roman Catholic church?
Where can I find the institution of the additional five sacraments by Jesus? In addition, can sins be forgiven without confessing to men?
Does the Catholic church still use the Latin Vulgate of Jerome?
Was Mary without sin? If so, was she purified at the moment of conception? If so, is this an assumption based on the character of Christ or found in scripture?
What is the Catholic view of paedocommunion (bringing children to the Lord's Table)?
Do Catholics believe that true Christians can be found in any of the other denominations?
What is the Catholic stance on the sovereignty of God (all things, some, etc)?
Explain the requirement/need/benefit of praying to saints over directly to God.
The thing is that even Protestants believe in salvation by works. It's a matter of degree. Even if they say all you need to do is "believe", well, believe is still a verb. It's an action. It's something you do. A work, one might say.In my honest opinion, if I were to believe that works were necessary for salvation I would say that works comes from faith, not the other way around.
I appreciate all the input provided. I can agree with some, but not all of what I've been told.You have received solid explanations from many here. Please fell free to come here at any time to ask questions or for clarifications.
I understand what you are saying here, and I greatly appreciate your insight. However, my understanding and most reformed Christians would agree is that faith and good works are the fruits and proof, not the basis for salvation. Christ's atonement is sufficient, and there is nothing more we can add to it. Any 'saving act' such a baptism or communion is meant for the continued spiritual growth or sanctification of the individual. These were never meant for a saving act, there are an outward expression of inward commitment to the Lord.The thing is that even Protestants believe in salvation by works. It's a matter of degree. Even if they say all you need to do is "believe", well, believe is still a verb. It's an action. It's something you do. A work, one might say.
The fact is the New Testament attaches certain actions to salvation. "Do this and you will have new life/be born again/be saved/etc". Take baptism, for example.
"He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned."
- St. Mark 16:16
Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, with angels, authorities, and powers subject to him.
- 1 St. Peter 3:21-22
"And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on his name."
- Acts 22:16
y the washing of regeneration and renewal in the Holy Spirit, which he poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that we might be justified by his grace and become heirs in hope of eternal life.
- Titus 3:5-7
Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, "Brethren, what shall we do?" And Peter said to them, "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you and to your children and to all that are far off, every one whom the Lord our God calls to him." And he testified with many other words and exhorted them, saying, "Save yourselves from this crooked generation." So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls.
- Acts 2:37-41
Baptism is a salvific act and, if Scripture is to be read literally, is non-negotiable for salvation.
I understand what you are saying here, and I greatly appreciate your insight. However, my understanding and most reformed Christians would agree is that faith and good works are the fruits and proof, not the basis for salvation. Christ's atonement is sufficient, and there is nothing more we can add to it. Any 'saving act' such a baptism or communion is meant for the continued spiritual growth or sanctification of the individual. These were never meant for a saving act, there are an outward expression of inward commitment to the Lord.
Note that unless all are saved (by which I mean that all will achieve the glory of Heaven), then there must be some reason why some are saved and some are not. Christ died for all people, so it is not that He only chose to save some but not others. If what separates the saved from the damned is a commitment towards God and an acceptance of His grace, then they are distinguished from the damned by a "saving act," though an internal act rather than an external one. Yet Jesus made clear that he who looks upon a woman with lust in his heart has sinned, even though his only sinful action was internal. So God does know and consider internal actions as well as external actions.
If you allow that people can better understand and commit themselves to God through internal actions, then it is also possible for them to do so through external actions.
That is not to say that any of these actions (external or internal) actual are the cause of one's salvation. Christ's death and resurrection are the cause. But these actions can aid or hinder this saving grace, since they can turn us toward or away from God. You yourself have noted that people can act in concern with the will of God, since you speak of "spiritual growth" and "sanctification," but if it was impossible to grow in the grace of God, there would be no process of coming to know Him, you would be either saved or damned with no gradation of being more holy or more spiritually developed.
For almost all us, we believe that at our death, "we will either be saved or damned with no gradation" Obviously, I am not including the saints of the Church. So, at any point in our life, salvation (or justification) is indeed an either-or proposition (with jesus making the real choice). I believe that the vast majority of us believe that we are made more and more conformed to Jesus as we act to do his will, sac day of our life. Different traditions have different names for this process. You call it being more holy. Some call it sanctification. Some call it divination. Some call it theosis. Some call the process spiritual growth. And yes, some call the process justification (using the term differently than others).
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