questions about the Tridentine?

[NDIrish]

Hey all...

I have a question for anyone familiar with the Tridentine Mass. I've never been to one, but am going to be in NJ for Thanksgiving this week, and found this chapel, which is run by the FSSP (http://www.ourladyoffatimachapel.com).

Fortunately, they have Mass every day, so I am planning on going to the 8:00 am Mass on Thanksgiving.

My question is, what should I expect? Having only experienced the Novus Ordo, I'm not sure what to expect. How much participation, compared to the Novus Ordo is there?

Just a general "What to expect"????

 

[geocajun]

They will likely give you a latin missal when you walk in the door. I went to one, and it was nice in some ways, but overall, I did not much care for the latin because I could not follow along.
Recieving communion on my knees was nice - its a bit confusing if you haven't done it before so pay close attention to what everyone else is doing.

 

[NDIrish]

Cool...as long as I get a missal, I'll be OK.

I'll be OK receiving communion kneeling. My current parish is the only parish that I have ever been to which still uses their communion rail!

 

[RhetorTheo]

Is the Tridentine mass forbidden? If it's not forbidden, why do so few churches use it? And isn't the Tridentine mass different from the Latin Mass (that is, can't the Tridentine mass be performed in the vernacular)? Are churches allowed to perform a high mass on every Sunday?

 

[PeterPaul]

No, according to Ecclesia Dei it is allowed and anyone who tells you different needs to read the document. However, not all Churches that perform them are in accord with the Vatican or even accept the Pope's legitamacy so be careful! SSPX are not (though I pray one day will be) legit. Check with your local Diocese to find a list of them in your area.

 

[NDIrish]

Is the Tridentine mass forbidden?

No, not at all. Actually, according to Ecclesia Dei, it is supposed to be celebrated widely and generously.

If it's not forbidden, why do so few churches use it?

That's a great question.

And isn't the Tridentine mass different from the Latin Mass (that is, can't the Tridentine mass be performed in the vernacular)?

Either the Tridentine or Novus Ordo Mass can be celebrated in Latin. Not sure about the Tridentine Mass in the vernacular though.

Are churches allowed to perform a high mass on every Sunday?

They must first be granted approval to do so from their Bishop. This approval is called an "indult". I am currently trying to get the Bishop of my diocese to grant us an indult.

 

[NDIrish]

No, according to Ecclesia Dei it is allowed and anyone who tells you different needs to read the document. However, not all Churches that perform them are in accord with the Vatican or even accept the Pope's legitamacy so be careful! SSPX are not (though I pray one day will be) legit. Check with your local Diocese to find a list of them in your area.

I don't think the diocese will look kindly on people calling and asking for a listing of SSPX chapels in their area.

 

[PeterPaul]

They must first be granted approval to do so from their Bishop. This approval is called an "indult". I am currently trying to get the Bishop of my diocese to grant us an indult.[/QUOTE]


Can you give me a few pointers how? The only one I know is in Manhattan at St. Agnes, but I would love to convince mine to have one in Nassau County.

 

[RhetorTheo]

Here is a link of churches that use the Tridentine, including whether they do high mass on a regular basis:

http://www.ecclesiadei.org/direct00.htm

 

[PeterPaul]

You know its funny because I've looked at the list and the one closest to me is not truly a part of the Diocese of Rockville Center in NY. I don't know why its on the list because it is a SSPX Church.

 

[Credo]

Cool...as long as I get a missal, I'll be OK.

I'll be OK receiving communion kneeling. My current parish is the only parish that I have ever been to which still uses their communion rail!

If you were a bit closer to me, I'd lend you one of my missals. I've got 2 or 3 of them. There is a parish about 20 min. from my house that is staffed by FSSP. It's truly beautiful! Their Thursday Mass is in the evening and is chanted from beginning to end.

 

[PeterPaul]

Lucky!

 

[Michelina]

If it's not forbidden, why do so few churches use it?

Because dioceses are still dominated by 'liberals'
(and because there are not that many priests who will say it.)

 

[PeterPaul]

Michelina, I love it when you say things like that.

 

[NDIrish]

If you were a bit closer to me, I'd lend you one of my missals. I've got 2 or 3 of them. There is a parish about 20 min. from my house that is staffed by FSSP. It's truly beautiful! Their Thursday Mass is in the evening and is chanted from beginning to end.

I am jealous!!!!

 

[Michelina]

Michelina, I love it when you say things like that.

Thanks, PP. I love Augustine's terse sentences. You're pretty terse yourself.

 

[Credo]

I am jealous!!!!

Please don't be! I don't get there as often as I'd like to!