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I'm sorry if there is a thread that may answer these questions as I haven't had the time to go through everything yet but could someone post a link to a site where I could learn more about Orthodox doctrines from the ground up. I did pick up a link to a site with Church history and I plan to read it all but I also want some detailed info on doctrines and teachings.

lol I can't really think of any particular questions or I'd have several pages of them. Pretty much, I'd like to know all I can about Orthodoxy as I have always had a fascination and yearning for "high church" worship and structure. Thanks in advance.
 

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Forgiven,
Hello and welcome to TAW.. We do in fact get lots of inquiries here about Holy Orthodoxy.Others will likely have different recommendations, but the following are mine.
In terms of history:
The Orthodox Church By Bishop Kallistos (Timothy) Ware, entirely on-line.
In terms of praxis:
The Orthodox Faith a series by Fr. Thomas Hopko also entirely on-line.
In terms of two of the more prominent sacraments, I heartily recommend the following:
On Holy Baptism;
Of Water and The Spirit by Fr. Alexander Schmemman
On The Eucharist;
For the Life of the World also by Fr. Alexander.
Feel free to ask more specific questions as they arise, and again welcome.
His unworthy servant,
Eusebios.
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Hi there!
Hope you don't mind I give you a :hug:

Welcome to The Ancient Way, otherwise known affectionately as TAW. I love your sig! Herman Melville is one of my favorite Americans ! (Sermon from Moby Dick!)

As usual, Oblio has given you lots to start with ... I hope you will read and hang out with us and ask your questions. Most of us are converts ourselves so we are happy to share our journey with you ...

Love,
Suzannah
 
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Hi, it's Moses' wife Katherine here...

I compiled all the links to sites that were most helpful to me when I first started exploring Orthodoxy, on a page at http://stienekel.tripod.com/

I hope they are helpful to you and I'm glad you are here. We love answering questions from inquirers!
 
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forgivensinner001 said:
Thanks for the links. Great reading so far. The unity and love here is, well, kind of stunning after some of the other forums I've visited. I'd like to visit an Orthodox church but the nearest is over 2 hours away. :(
The Church I attend Is 4 hours away.
 
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Stone_Lock_Comanche said:
The Church I attend Is 4 hours away.
I suppose I'll be taking a trip to Memphis soon then. :)

Would one particular service be better for a first time visitor or does it matter? Is there anything I should know before going?
 
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forgivensinner001 said:
I suppose I'll be taking a trip to Memphis soon then. :)
There are three great Orthodox churches in Memphis, and a skete (kind of a mini-monastery) nearby. Check your PM for more information:)
 
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forgivensinner001 said:
I suppose I'll be taking a trip to Memphis soon then. :)

:clap: I think that you can also contact the Antiochian Archdiocese and the OCA, and ask them to inform you if a mission is opened closer to where you are.

Would one particular service be better for a first time visitor or does it matter? Is there anything I should know before going?

The Divine Liturgy is our Eucharistic service and the jewel in our crown, so to speak. :)

I'm so glad that you're willing to make a trip like that just to visit--God bless you! :pray:
 
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Vespers, the evening service to start the Liturgical day is shorter and less overwhelming. There is usually less of a crowd and it may be easier to spend some time with the priest, deacon, reader or another member of the parish for questions you might have.
 
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forgivensinner001 said:
I suppose I'll be taking a trip to Memphis soon then. :)

Would one particular service be better for a first time visitor or does it matter? Is there anything I should know before going?

Some people say that the Vespers service is better to attend for a first time visit as communion is not served. However, at some All-NIght Vigils (usually a 45 minute service) they do serve blessed bread with wine poured over it, which they give to all people in attendance., including the non-Orthodox.

THe idea of closed Holy Communion is difficult for some people to accept. However, we truly believe that Holy Communion is the precious Body and Blood of our Lord, God and Saviour Jesus Christ. We furthermore believe that some people have died or become very sick because they have received Holy Communion unworthily as St. Paul warns against. We are encouraged to be in a state of continuous repentance and to frequent the Holy Sacrament of Confession so that we will be prepared to receive Holy Communion and will be found worthy to enter heaven when we fall asleep in the Lord.

Hope this helps.
 
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Ok, I've been thinking all night at work and I have some specific questions now. :) I'm not trying to start any debates or bait anyone; if any of these are likely to be controversial, just PM me with answers.


Does the Church have "official positions" on worldly matters such as politics, jobs, etc? If so, what are those positions regarding:
1) Marriage/Divorce/Remarriage

2) Evolution/Creation debate

3) Recognition of Catholic Saints (Does the Orthodox Church recognize any/all/some Catholic Saints?)

4) Titles/Roles/Responsibilities (not exhaustive, just general responsibilities) of "ministers" in the Church. Restrictions also such as marriage history, etc. I mean like could a widower become a priest or a divorced man, etc.

That's all I can think of right now but I'll keep reading the sites linked and if I haven't found an answer to a question when it occurs to me, I'll post further questions. Thanks again.
 
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From A Manual
of Divine Services
Archpriest D. Sokolof
Holy Trinity Monastery. Jordanville, NY


This might answer some of your clergy questions.

The Clergy.
The persons who take part in the performance of divine services are divided into cele-brants
and church servitors. Only those persons are called celebrants who have received the
grace of the Holy Spirit, through the Sacrament of Orders: they are the bishops, the priests and
the deacons.
The first and highest degree of priesthood belongs to the bishop (Epíscopos, which means
“overseer”). This name is given to the successors of the Apostles in the service and government
of the Church; with regard to public divine service, bishops are the chiefs or heads of all the
churches situated in their diocese. They dedicate churches, consecrate Antiminses, give authority
for the performance of services in these churches, and appoint all those who hold any office in
them. During services the bishops, as the highest performers of all Sacraments through which the
grace of the Holy Spirit is imparted to men, bless Christians with both hands, and, in their
capacity of chief teachers and enlighteners of the faithful, they also bless them with lightedഊ15
candles — the Dikirion and Trikirion. When giving the blessing they compose the fingers of the
right hand in such a manner as to form the name of Jesus Christ in Greek. To accomplish this,
the index is stretched out straight and the middle finger slightly bent, thus representing the letters
“IC”; then the annular is bent, the thumb is laid across it, and the little finger is slightly inclined,
forming the letters “XC.” This way of composing the fingers is called nominal. In his capacity of
chiefs over the priests, otherwise called ieréi, a bishop also has the title of Arch-iereus. All
bishops are equal among themselves, owing to their common grace of priesthood. But as the
districts subject to their jurisdiction differ in size and importance, as regarded in earthly king-doms
and empires, there are grades in the titles of bishops: those who have charge only of small
districts, or cities are called simply bishops or Archieréi; those whose jurisdiction extends over
larger cities and provinces have lately begun to assume the title of “Archbishop” (i.e., chief, first
among the bishops); the bishop of a capital city, otherwise called “metropolis,” is entitled
“Metropolitan”; the bishops of ancient capitals of the great Roman Empire (Rome, Constantin-ople,
Antioch) and of Jerusalem — the cities from which the Christian faith spread over the
globe — have received the title of “Patriarch” (which means “chief over the fathers”). A bishop
sometimes has an assistant, who is also a bishop; these subordinate bishops are called “Vicars,”
i.e., “lieutenants.” In some countries, as for instance, in our own, the churches are governed by
an assembly of several bishops; such an assembly is known by the name of “Synod.”
The second degree of ordained priesthood is occupied by the ieréi or priests, who, by the
authority and blessing of their bishops, govern small Christian communities, called “parishes,”
and have in their charge the parish churches. They bless the beginning of every public divine
service, perform all the sacraments of the church with the exception of ordination, and have
under their supervision all the persons who hold any office in these churches. They also have the
right to give their blessing in the name of the Lord to those inferior to them in spiritual rank, but
only with one hand. All priests are equal as regards the grace of priesthood; but there are differ-ences
among them, according to the importance of the churches and parishes committed to their
care. Some are called simply priests or ierei, others receive the title of “archpriests” or pro-toieréi,
(i.e., “first” or “senior priest”); archpriests have the precedence when they perform
services together with priests of the lower rank. The priests of churches attached to imperial
palaces, to a Patriarchate, and the Synod have the title of presbyter (“elder”) and the chief priest
of such a church takes that of protopresbyter. Priests who have taken monastic vows are called
hieromonáchi, which means “priest-monks.”
The deacon holds the third degree of priesthood. “Deacon” means “ministrant.” He
ministers to the bishop and to the priests in the performance of the sacraments, but may not
perform them himself, and therefore has not the right to bless in the name of the Lord. At public
divine service he, by the priest’s blessing, recites the common prayers, reads portions from the
Holy Scriptures, and sees that the worshippers comport themselves decorously. In the degree of
their ordination all deacons are equal; yet there are different grades among them. The senior
deacons of the principal churches are called protodeacons and claim precedence when they
officiate with other deacons; and the chief deacon attached to the person of a bishop receives the
title of archdeacon. If a deacon is also a monk he is called hierodeacon.
Church Servitors (clerics and acolytes) are persons appointed to certain services in a
church used as a place of worship. The highest position among these is that of the “subdeacons”
or hypodeacons; they assist at pontifical services and therefore are found mainly in Cathedral
churches. After them come the readers and choristers, also called “clerics” and “psalm-readers,”
and the sacristans or doorkeepers. Part of the latter’s duty is to keep the church neat and clean
and to ring the bells. During service they bring out the candlesticks and the censer, and when
they have done with these duties, they take part in the reading and singing. All the church
servitors together make up the “church staff,” because they are attached to the church. They are
also called “clerics” or, collectively, the “kliros,” because in ancient times they used to be
appointed by lot. Sometimes the celebrants are included in the kliros, which then might better be
called the “clergy,” and is divided into “higher” and “lower.” The higher clergy includes the
celebrants — bishops, priests and deacons; the lower includes the church servitors.
 
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Marriage/Divorce/Remarriage: The Church frowns upon divorce, but allows it in special circumstances. Remarriage is discouraged, and a remarriage ceremony, whether after divorce or widowhood, is a ceremony of penance, allowed because of our human weakness. Third marriages are rarely, if ever, allowed.

Evolution/Creation debate: Don't quote me on this (and others who know more will fill in) but I have the impression that the Church does not get involved in this debate. The Church does not treat the Bible as a science book, nor does it treat human thinking as infallible. I think this question is also addressed in the FAQ section at oca.org, where you'd likely find more complete answers to many of your questions.

Titles/Roles/Responsibilities: Each diocese (a geographical area with churches) is overseen by a bishop, and each parish has a priest (or more than one if it's a large parish) who answers to the bishop and who celebrates the Liturgy on behalf of the bishop (from whom he receives his authority). Bishops are single men who have never been married. Married men may become priests, but single priests may not marry; they must remain in whatever state they were in when they became priests. If a priest should suffer a divorce, I don't know how the Church handles that; someone else will have to answer. There are also Deacons, and I'm not sure what their range of responsbilities entail, but recently a Deacon celebrated a pre-sanctified Liturgy (in which the bread and wine had been consecrated by the priest beforehand) at our parish. Only a bishop or one of his priests can consecrate the bread and wine of the Eucharist. Then we also have monasteries, with monks and heiromonks, but I am not well-versed enough in monastic practices to tell you much more. Only men may be bishops, priests or deacons. I doubt very much that a man who's already divorced could become a priest, but I could be wrong. It seems reasonable that a widower could become a priest, but I'm not sure whether that is allowed or not.

Hope that helps. Good questions!
 
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