Questions About Not Eating Meat.

catlover · Oct 15, 2006

You folks get this question 100+ times, but I would like to know, for anyone who used to eat meat but became a vegetarian, what convicted you and how was the change? How do you feel now?

If you changed for religious reasons, how do you reconcile the fact that Jesus ate Passover lamb? I am not asking that to be disrespectful, I would just like a thought filled dialogue on the matter.

OntheDL · Oct 15, 2006

catlover said:
You folks get this question 100+ times, but I would like to know, for anyone who used to eat meat but became a vegetarian, what convicted you and how was the change? How do you feel now?

If you changed for religious reasons, how do you reconcile the fact that Jesus ate Passover lamb? I am not asking that to be disrespectful, I would just like a thought filled dialogue on the matter.

No problems. I used to eat all kinds of junk. You name it, I probably ate it. For the longest time after I heard eating meat is not healthy, I didn't care. My appatite was more important.

What got me wasn't a single event. It was reading over and over, it finally registered. I guess the biggest reason is that the animal products are acidic in nature. If our blood is alkaline, it's much more a hostile environment for virus to survive in our blood streams.

I first gave up all the unclean food. I ate fish and chicken for awhile. Then we moved into more strictly vegetarian diet. I think the key is to do by steps. Just you are around people that are vegetarian. And/or you watch the healthy life style programs from time to time. So it builds up a constant positive reinforcement that you remind yourself why you are doing it. go to www.modernmanna.com It's a SDA health ministry. They have some powerful videos and various diet programs.

So we do it for health reasons. Now I find my body reject the unhealthy food when I had to eat chicken at my mother's home.

Yes Jesus did eat fish and lamb. But our body is the temple of the holy spirit. We should take care of it. We know the animal products are becoming increasingly unhealthy and unfit to consume. In the endtime, there will be plagues, we should keep our body and mind as prepared as possible.

woobadooba · Oct 15, 2006

catlover said:
You folks get this question 100+ times, but I would like to know, for anyone who used to eat meat but became a vegetarian, what convicted you and how was the change? How do you feel now?

If you changed for religious reasons, how do you reconcile the fact that Jesus ate Passover lamb? I am not asking that to be disrespectful, I would just like a thought filled dialogue on the matter.

I was a sinful meat-eater, and then a sinful vegetarian, and now I'm a sinful meat-eater again

All joking aside...

I felt a lot better being a vegetarian. I recommend it

One of these days I'm sure I will go back to being a vegetarian.

catlover · Oct 15, 2006

woobadooba said:
I was a sinful meat-eater, and then a sinful vegetarian, and now I'm a sinful meat-eater again

All joking aside...

I felt a lot better being a vegetarian. I recommend it

One of these days I'm sure I will go back to being a vegetarian.

Woo I am sure with God's help you get back to being a vegetarian.

This is the way I feel about the vegetarian diet. I have tried it, but at some point I do need meat.

Woo please pray for me. I had about 5 cigarrets this week and I quite pretty much 5-6 years ago. It's amazing how easy it is to get back to an unhealthy lifestyle!

ONTHEDL!

I do when possible, get my meat from local farmers. For instance the lamb in the freezer is from a child's 4-H project. The beef is from a local farmer. It is best to have those things in moderation for sure.

OnTheDL I understand what you are saying. I lived down the road from a farm which raised chickens for eggs etc. It was such crowded disgusting conditions.
Thank-you, for the link. I want to eat healthier.

woobadooba · Oct 15, 2006

catlover said:
Woo please pray for me. I had about 5 cigarrets this week and I quite pretty much 5-6 years ago.

I will, but you have to do your part too. I smoked for 13 years. So I know how hard it is to quit.

The Lord gave me victory. And he will give you victory too, if you let Him.

Whenever you have a craving, pray to God for relief, drink a glass of water, and read your Bible.

OntheDL · Oct 15, 2006

catlover said:
Woo I am sure with God's help you get back to being a vegetarian.

This is the way I feel about the vegetarian diet. I have tried it, but at some point I do need meat.

Woo please pray for me. I had about 5 cigarrets this week and I quite pretty much 5-6 years ago. It's amazing how easy it is to get back to an unhealthy lifestyle!

ONTHEDL!

I do when possible, get my meat from local farmers. For instance the lamb in the freezer is from a child's 4-H project. The beef is from a local farmer. It is best to have those things in moderation for sure.

OnTheDL I understand what you are saying. I lived down the road from a farm which raised chickens for eggs etc. It was such crowded disgusting conditions.
Thank-you, for the link. I want to eat healthier.

Yeah, I used to smoke since middle school. I quit just before I got married. The mind is a powerful thing. I still get that urge when I see people puffing smokes, holding the cigarrets with fingers... While quit smoking is not too hard for me, I struggle in other areas.

The key is not to put yourself in the position to fail. Orange trees only grow in tropical areas. Take it out of its natural environment, it won't grow. You have a problem with smoking, don't hang around people that smoke. You want to quit eating meat. Don't eat dinner with people that do and don't go to buffets often.

tall73 · Oct 15, 2006

I ate meat for the first 20 some years of my life. When I went to an Adventist school that fixed vegetarian food I thought I would try it.

It helped a lot. I started exercising more and the combination helped me to lose weight, and get rid of my asthma--definitely worth it.

It was probably hard, thinking back, but it is hard to remember now. I now don't really miss meat. Now the harder part is having to find recipes that are good yet still healthy. But there are a lot of web sites now that have made that easier.

catlover · Oct 15, 2006

tall73 said:
I ate meat for the first 20 some years of my life. When I went to an Adventist school that fixed vegetarian food I thought I would try it.

It helped a lot. I started exercising more and the combination helped me to lose weight, and get rid of my asthma--definitely worth it.

It was probably hard, thinking back, but it is hard to remember now. I now don't really miss meat. Now the harder part is having to find recipes that are good yet still healthy. But there are a lot of web sites now that have made that easier.

Do you eat any fish or eggs?

BonnieBee · Oct 15, 2006

I eat fish, and eggs and sometimes chicken. I used to eat red meat for a long time, but then I realised what it can do to you in terms of the fat blocking up arteries etc, and it is no good for your digestion.
Maybe if the meat was 'healthy' (ie organically grown with no hormone/antibiotics in it), I might eat a little bit. There is a big difference in the meat Jesus ate, and the meat we consume. The jews drained their meat, so they wouldn't be eating any of the life blood of the animal.

Dathen · Oct 16, 2006

I became a vegetarian 1 year before I heard of the message of Christ. I didn't go vegetarian for health reasons, though vegetarians are very healthy, SDA's are one of the heealthiest people in the world and live the longest. I became vegetarian, because I loved animals. Once you know how an animal lives it's life if it's to be eaten it's not pleasent. A vegetarian saves 99 animals a year.

Quite afew Adventists are vegan, but only for health. My sister is vegan, but for the animals. In conclusion vegetarianism is alot better for your health.

Cliff2 · Oct 16, 2006

The first thing I would like to establish is that eating of clean meats is not a sin.

The Bible does not support the eating of clean meats as being a sin.

So really it comes down to a life style choice.

I chose to stop eating all meats when I was about 17 years of age.

This was long before the word Vegan was even coined. At least I had never heard of it.

Probably for the next 18 or so years I never ate any meat at all.

Then I started to eat chicken and fish, not to any great extent but would often eat them

Now for the past 6 months I have went back to what I did when I was 17.

It is only for heatlth reason that I jave made the choice

Anyone who does not eat animal products must be aware of B12 and how we do need to make sure we are not lacking in it.

Cliff2 · Oct 16, 2006

Do you eat any fish or eggs?

Sorry but fish has more disease in it than any other meat apart from chicken.

Best to leave them alone if you can

Eggs should only be cooked by poaching or boiling them.

Frying etc changes them and they become deadly for your heart.

smooze · Oct 16, 2006

TOfu makes me hurl.

Sophia7 · Oct 16, 2006

Tofu is good if it's cooked properly. If it's just plain out of the package, then it is pretty tasteless and unappetizing. If you cook it with other ingredients and seasonings, it soaks in the flavor and is really good. We use it in stir-fry a lot. I also like to cut it into thin pieces, lay them on a cookie sheet, sprinkle them with garlic salt, and then broil them in the oven for a few minutes on each side until they turn golden-brown and crispy. Then I use them in recipes in place of meat. My husband loves Indian food, and I use tofu in Indian recipes in place of paneer. I use firm tofu for that sort of thing and soft tofu for making sauces or dressings. For more texture, you can freeze the tofu and then thaw it out before cooking with it.

OntheDL · Oct 16, 2006

Sophia7 said:
Tofu is good if it's cooked properly. If it's just plain out of the package, then it is pretty tasteless and unappetizing. If you cook it with other ingredients and seasonings, it soaks in the flavor and is really good. We use it in stir-fry a lot. I also like to cut it into thin pieces, lay them on a cookie sheet, sprinkle them with garlic salt, and then broil them in the oven for a few minutes on each side until they turn golden-brown and crispy. Then I use them in recipes in place of meat. My husband loves Indian food, and I use tofu in Indian recipes in place of paneer. I use firm tofu for that sort of thing and soft tofu for making sauces or dressings. For more texture, you can freeze the tofu and then thaw it out before cooking with it.

Tofu is good. But should be consumed in small quantity.

I also make many dishes with Tofu. Heated soy should be avoid consuming too much.

I make a cold dish with Tofu. Take a box of soft Tofu, smash it, mix it with one or two branch of scallions chopped and sesame oil and a little bit of soy source and salt. Try it. It's a traditional chinese dish.

woobadooba · Oct 16, 2006

Sophia7 said:
Tofu is good if it's cooked properly. If it's just plain out of the package, then it is pretty tasteless and unappetizing. If you cook it with other ingredients and seasonings, it soaks in the flavor and is really good. We use it in stir-fry a lot. I also like to cut it into thin pieces, lay them on a cookie sheet, sprinkle them with garlic salt, and then broil them in the oven for a few minutes on each side until they turn golden-brown and crispy. Then I use them in recipes in place of meat. My husband loves Indian food, and I use tofu in Indian recipes in place of paneer. I use firm tofu for that sort of thing and soft tofu for making sauces or dressings. For more texture, you can freeze the tofu and then thaw it out before cooking with it.

Would you give me some of these tofu recipes? Also, I am especially interested in Indian food

woobadooba · Oct 16, 2006

OntheDL said:
Tofu is good. But should be consumed in small quantity.

Why in small quantity?

I drink a lot of silk soy milk because it helps soothe my stomach. Is that bad?

Heated soy should be avoid consuming too much.

Why?

Sophia7 · Oct 16, 2006

OntheDL said:
Tofu is good. But should be consumed in small quantity.

I also make many dishes with Tofu. Heated soy should be avoid consuming too much.

I make a cold dish with Tofu. Take a box of soft Tofu, smash it, mix it with one or two branch of scallions chopped and sesame oil and a little bit of soy source and salt. Try it. It's a traditional chinese dish.

I'm wondering why it would be bad to consume heated soy products. You can't just eat uncooked soybeans. I make my own soy milk and sometimes my own tofu. You have to soak soybeans and cook them before doing anything with them. Therefore, they have already been heated to make soy milk or tofu or anything else, so I don't see the reasoning. Why is it bad to eat heated soy? I've never heard that before--only that it should be eaten in moderation.

Sophia7 · Oct 16, 2006

woobadooba said:
Would you give me some of these tofu recipes? Also, I am especially interested in Indian food

I'll PM you some Indian recipes when I get a chance.

woobadooba · Oct 16, 2006

Sophia7 said:
I'll PM you some Indian recipes when I get a chance.

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