Questions about Jesus' Death

[TransformedByGrace]

I have a question.
While I was reading the Apostle's Creed, I realized something that I don't understand.

Apostle's Creed

I believe in God, the Father Almighty,
the Creator of heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord:
Who was conceived of the Holy Spirit,
born of the Virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried.
He descended into hell.
The third day He arose again from the dead.
He ascended into heaven
and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty,
whence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic* church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and life everlasting.
Amen.

"He descended into hell."

Did He descend into hell? I thought that He was a perfect human and a sacrifice to God. How is it that He could go to hell?

 

[look]

I have a question.
While I was reading the Apostle's Creed, I realized something that I don't understand.

"He descended into hell."

Did He descend into hell? I thought that He was a perfect human and a sacrifice to God. How is it that He could go to hell?

Here is a good study on that subject, click here. But yes, Jesus did go to Hell...

 

[SavedByGrace3]

I have a question.
While I was reading the Apostle's Creed, I realized something that I don't understand.

"He descended into hell."

Did He descend into hell? I thought that He was a perfect human and a sacrifice to God. How is it that He could go to hell?

Jesus was perfect... until He was made sin for us.(2 Cor 5:21)

A question...
After Jesus was made sin for us and died in the flesh, where would a sinful man go after death?

I believe he suffered hell fire for most of the three days he was in the grave, was raised spiritually on the third day, preached to the unregenerate faithful who had passed on (in "Abraham's Bosom"), and then was raised from the dead physically.

 

[TransformedByGrace]

Ok, i understand now, i talked to alot of people all day about it. Thanks

 

[cling2thelamb]

While there, He took the keys to death, hell, and the grave. That is where He attained our eternal life! (the icons here are the coolest) God bless!!!

 

[Mr.Cheese]

I've heard that he pillaged hell. Like he sacked it.
I don't know where people came up with that. But studying it is something that I'll have to do leter.

 

[Mr.Cheese]

I've heard that he pillaged hell. Like he sacked it.
I don't know where people came up with that. But studying it is something that I'll have to do later.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Some believe Psalm 88 to be a picture of Jesus in hell:


Psa 88:
1 O LORD God of my salvation, I have cried day [and] night before thee:
2 Let my prayer come before thee: incline thine ear unto my cry;
3 For my soul is full of troubles: and my life draweth nigh unto the grave.
4 I am counted with them that go down into the pit: I am as a man [that hath] no strength:
5 Free among the dead, like the slain that lie in the grave, whom thou rememberest no more: and they are cut off from thy hand.
6 Thou hast laid me in the lowest pit, in darkness, in the deeps.
7 Thy wrath lieth hard upon me, and thou hast afflicted [me] with all thy waves. Selah.
8 Thou hast put away mine acquaintance far from me; thou hast made me an abomination unto them: [I am] shut up, and I cannot come forth.
9 Mine eye mourneth by reason of affliction: LORD, I have called daily upon thee, I have stretched out my hands unto thee.
10 Wilt thou shew wonders to the dead? shall the dead arise [and] praise thee? Selah.
11 Shall thy lovingkindness be declared in the grave? [or] thy faithfulness in destruction?
12 Shall thy wonders be known in the dark? and thy righteousness in the land of forgetfulness?
13 But unto thee have I cried, O LORD; and in the morning shall my prayer prevent thee.
14 LORD, why castest thou off my soul? [why] hidest thou thy face from me?
15 I [am] afflicted and ready to die from [my] youth up: [while] I suffer thy terrors I am distracted.
16 Thy fierce wrath goeth over me; thy terrors have cut me off.
17 They came round about me daily like water; they compassed me about together.
18 Lover and friend hast thou put far from me, [and] mine acquaintance into darkness.

There are elements in the verses that sound very much like something Jesus would say. Who else could utter these words from the pits of hell?

 

[SavedByGrace3]

For a very good book length study on this topic, get this:

"What Happened from the Cross to the Throne" by E.W.Kenyon.

click this link for the table of contents:
http://lookinside-images.amazon.com...TnFEESOzOAZRxvZpE3cUMKhmj1yUVphKnHtFbPv2edbtG

 

[chris320]

I have a question.
While I was reading the Apostle's Creed, I realized something that I don't understand.

"He descended into hell."

Funny how this is listed in the Apostle's Creed, but so many denominations consider it heresy to agree with it.

-Chris320

 

[look]

/me thinks, "isn't that called religion?"

 

[YouthPastor]

col 2:15 describes Jesus in hell

Wher eit says that he disarmed the powers, in the greek it is a "martial arts" term.

When it says that he made a show of them - in the greek the terminology used. is that of a conquoring king parading his captives through the city.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

col 2:15 describes Jesus in hell

Wher eit says that he disarmed the powers, in the greek it is a "martial arts" term.

When it says that he made a show of them - in the greek the terminology used. is that of a conquoring king parading his captives through the city.

Love it!

 

[He put me back together]

col 2:15 describes Jesus in hell

Wher eit says that he disarmed the powers, in the greek it is a "martial arts" term.

When it says that he made a show of them - in the greek the terminology used. is that of a conquoring king parading his captives through the city.

Wow! That's something to look into. I'll have to study that for myself.
Now for the rest of it--the first thing we must do to understand what went on in the grave is clear up a misunderstanding that has arisen by centuries of translating two distinct ideas as one term. The English word "hell" is used to describe both the grave and Ghenna, which are not the same thing. Ghenna is the second death, seen in Revelation--it is the lake of fire, symbolizing the doom of those who reject God, through a metaphor not unlike the Valley of Hinnon. The burning garbage dump seen in old Jerusalem is also seen metaphorically by John, when he sees his vision of the new Earth.
The grave, however, is quite different, and is the better of the two to be described as "hell," although the English term has lost its true meaning to most of us in antiquity. The grave can be seen as a prison, for sure--but I think when we get to the Kingdom and know even as we are known, we will find that there is more and yet less to it. It can be quite confusing to distinguish the two in the gospels, frankly because most translations present them with the same word.
This is what we know for a fact: Jesus descended to the grave. The grave is the first death--this is where he preached to the Spirits (1 Peter 3:19)
Did Jesus see Ghenna? Well, we have no scriptures to say that he did. With study, it's quite unlikely, and if one wants to put a time line on things, Ghenna doesn't even exist yet. But is it possible that Jesus even saw the destruction that we would've seen in Ghenna without him, in the timelessness of the Holy Spirit? I'm up for that possibility. Jesus was slain before the foundation of the world, after all--arising from Ghenna would make his ressurection all the more mighty. We're not talking about people rising from the dead as Lazarus did, here--we're talking destruction of body and spirit without return. The possibility that there may be truth in this is making me shout already.

Blessings to the brothers and sisters
PS--don't pull out the "So you're one of those folks who believes Ghenna is temporary?" questions on me--I'm not one of those

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

col 2:15 describes Jesus in hell

Wher eit says that he disarmed the powers, in the greek it is a "martial arts" term.

When it says that he made a show of them - in the greek the terminology used. is that of a conquoring king parading his captives through the city.

I saw Kenneth Copeland do an illistration of this in a sermon. He took a guy by the tie and led him all over the stage. It was a great visual effect of what Christ did to the devil.

on the devil