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Yes all of the above. You wouldn't believe someone who had a soundly reasonable explanation for why this God does not exist, unless they could provide evidence of this God not existing?
Depends on what you mean when saying "God". Feel free to clarify.I'm interested to hear if any non-believers have seriously considered believing in God based on an argument or reason they heard from someone else, either on these forums or elsewhere.
I´m mainly in the Philosophy and E&M forums. I´m not particularly interested in discussing the question "Does God exist?" - for various reasons.I would think that those of you who have been on these forums for an extended period of time would have come across some argument or reason that has brought you close to believing in God, but maybe the opposite is true, maybe all the arguments just reaffirm your non-belief.
I don´t have much problems with the idea that something has always existed and will continue to exist. Does that make me a theist?Okay then. I understand that you do not have an answer for the question I posed.
The concept of an eternal God that has always existed and will continue to exist is not that difficult to grasp.
If "eternally existing" is the sole definition of "God", for purposes of your question, I am inclined to say that God exists. After all, I can easily fathom something to have always and will always exist.You find it difficult to grasp the concept of an eternal God who has always existed? If you can grasp that concept then you should be able to answer the question posed earlier, assuming you won't continue evading.
No, I haven't encountered such an argument.I'm interested to hear if any non-believers have seriously considered believing in God based on an argument or reason they heard from someone else, either on these forums or elsewhere.
Okay so you think there's is no evidence either way? So the truth of whether an eternal God exists or not will never be determined by anyone ever? Is that really a reasonable position to hold considering humans are pretty intelligent and capable of discovering amazing truths?
By this logic I could just as easily say that the lack of evidence that God does not exist, means God does exist. Based on your logic, you should agree, yet you don't, why is that?
I'm interested to hear if any non-believers have seriously considered believing in God based on an argument or reason they heard from someone else, either on these forums or elsewhere.
I would think that those of you who have been on these forums for an extended period of time would have come across some argument or reason that has brought you close to believing in God, but maybe the opposite is true, maybe all the arguments just reaffirm your non-belief.
Do share if you want, thanks!
Because I've heard all the arguments, and found them all without merit, I have no reason to believe in a god. I wouldn't say that I'm more of an atheist, since the phrase seems silly. The only change over time I've had is that I think that a purely intellectual argument for a god's existence is folly.
Oh, and I don't think it's possible to consider believing in something. Either I accept evidence and believe, or I don't.
See? This is why claims that aren't testable are completely worthless and meaningless. Without any kind of verifiability, it can't be verified.
Okay then. I understand that you do not have a good description of the thing that I should be confirming or denying.
I have no idea how anyone can believe that something exists without being able to give properties of that thing. It sounds completely insane to me.
Joined CF in '04 as a Christian. Through a slow process, I eventually accepted the fact there is no god/s.
You understand the difference between "I don't believe X is true" and "I believe X is false", right?
Because it sounds like you don't.
Very few things in your daily life could be verified. Yet you still have to make solid decisions based on those unverified information.
I am not sure I do.
What is the difference?
Examine any one of your decisions (done to you lunch menu). Was it the only choice? Based on what evidence?Examples?
A simplistic example...
I flip a coin, hide the result and don't even look at it myself.
I then make the truth-claim "It is heads. Do you accept this claim as true?"
You answer with "no, I don't accept it as a true-ism".
That does NOT mean that you accept it as true that it is tails instead.
It does NOT mean that you would accept the claim that "it is NOT heads" as a true-ism.
It merely means that with the information at your disposal, you are not convinced that the claim "it is heads" is true.
Not accepting X as true does NOT mean that you automatically accept the opposite of X as true. Nore does it mean that you automatically accept X as being false.
Was that clear enough?
Examine any one of your decisions (done to you lunch menu). Was it the only choice? Based on what evidence?
So:
I believe God exists; and
I don't believe God exists.
Could both be true.
Right?
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