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LLOJ races to get in on thisDo you believe that hell glorifies God?
Why or why not?
PS - No drive by shootings, please. (iow, no personal attacks allowed in this discussion).
St. Catherine of Genoa said:The pain of the damned is not infinite in quantity because the dear goodness of God sheds the ray of His mercy even in Hell. For man dead in sin merits infinite pain for an infinite time, but God's mercy has allotted infinity to him only in time and has determined the quantity of his pain; in justice God could have given him more pain.
Do you believe that hell glorifies God?
Why or why not?
PS - No drive by shootings, please. (iow, no personal attacks allowed in this discussion).
LLOJ races to get in on this
all of Gods works glorify him! because God is Good and only does Good, and if he only does Good then it must be glorifying Him.
Does God send people to hell then or do people send themselves there?
living and nonliving?since people have free will they choose which path to tread. since God is Judge he has made a place for every path since he created everything visible and invisible; corporeal and incorporeal. God orders everything for Good.
Alright, question #2:
How come so many people always talk about how loving and merciful God is but leave out all the rest like....God is just, and holy, and righteous? In today's modern world, you don't hear hardly anything about those characteristics of God. No, nowandays people wanna pick and choose what they consider the good stuff about Him and leave out all that talk about justice and HOLINESS. Yes, its not His desire for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. Its also true that only a corrupt judge would not punish crime. And we all know (or at least we should know) that God is in no way corrupt, so its a good thing He does judge sin, which leads me to believe that He's also trustworthy.
Question #3:
Why did God create hell for the devil and his angels and why are there people there now?
Well at least the wascalwy Beast and FP are chuncked into the LoF first eheheBecause in our modern society we don't want to talk about holiness and righteousness at all. But thats not everyone.
The hell that you are referring to, does not exist now. The devil and his angels are free to roam the earth now and cause trouble.
After the 1000 years then the lake of fire will burn and destroy the devil and his angels.
Alright, question #2:
How come so many people always talk about how loving and merciful God is but leave out all the rest like....God is just, and holy, and righteous? In today's modern world, you don't hear hardly anything about those characteristics of God. No, nowandays people wanna pick and choose what they consider the good stuff about Him and leave out all that talk about justice and HOLINESS. Yes, its not His desire for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. Its also true that only a corrupt judge would not punish crime. And we all know (or at least we should know) that God is in no way corrupt, so its a good thing He does judge sin, which leads me to believe that He's also trustworthy.
Question #3:
Why did God create hell for the devil and his angels and why are there people there now?
How do I know? Ummm...because the bible says so? Matthew 25:41, 2 Thessalonians 1:3-10 (yeah, God's gonna get them), Revelation 20:11-15, 21:8 just to name a few, or are ya'll going to tell me I'm not reading those scriptures right and that they really don't mean what they say?
Now, if people are going to be in the Great White Throne Judgement, then that lets me know that they'll be in that because they've rejected and thumbed their noses at Jesus Christ and felt they didn't need Him all their lives. When someone dies without Christ, where do they go? They don't just vanish or cease to exist. They go somewhere. So....there is a hell and there will be a lake of fire.
How is it that some think because heaven is such a wonderul place (and it is) that glorifies God because only those who've been redeemed by the blood of the Christ and put their trust in Him will be occupying it and will serve and worship Him forever....but hell doesn't glorify God just because of how awful it is and that because of who He is, it doesn't make sense that He would even make such a place?
How do I know? Ummm...because the bible says so? Matthew 25:41, 2 Thessalonians 1:3-10 (yeah, God's gonna get them), Revelation 20:11-15, 21:8 just to name a few, or are ya'll going to tell me I'm not reading those scriptures right and that they really don't mean what they say?
Now, if people are going to be in the Great White Throne Judgement, then that lets me know that they'll be in that because they've rejected and thumbed their noses at Jesus Christ and felt they didn't need Him all their lives. When someone dies without Christ, where do they go? They don't just vanish or cease to exist. They go somewhere. So....there is a hell and there will be a lake of fire.
How is it that some think because heaven is such a wonderul place (and it is) that glorifies God because only those who've been redeemed by the blood of the Christ and put their trust in Him will be occupying it and will serve and worship Him forever....but hell doesn't glorify God just because of how awful it is and that because of who He is, it doesn't make sense that He would even make such a place?
This says they will be destroyed (the greek word is word that we get "lethal" from, olethron) when the Lord returns. This destruction, death, is eternal because it is permanent. It doesn't say that they will be tortured now or on that day.For after all it is only just for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you, and to give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as well when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire, dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. These will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, when He comes to be glorified in His saints on that day, and to be marveled at among all who have believed—for our testimony to you was believed.
This explains the fire, here and in Matthew. The fire is the second death. The lake of fire is not torture, it is death.Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is thebook of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
living and nonliving?
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