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Why thank you!Plan 9 said:I see. Thank you. All the other congregational fora troublemakers (as you know, God issues one to each small congregational forum and two to three to each large one, in order to teach our moderators the sort of patience which only comes through tribulation) and I were talking (well actually, they had all gotten together to verbally abuse me for being given the privilege of paying bigsierra substantially less to post with me to make me look good, but when they had completed this task to their satisfaction, they still had me cornered, and found they had finished sooner than they had expected) where was I...oh, yes..we CFTs found ourselves discussing mod kickbacks in general, and they naturally decided that we should pool our funds for this, because I came up with the idea of the financial compensation which is only our WP mods just due and they caught me at it, those nosey parkers, so I collect by far the largest salary of all of us, since I've taken far fewer compulsory vacations, and therefore have the highest post count of any CFT.
To make a long story short, they're attempting to put the screws to me, and I strenuously objected, wvmtnkid, on behalf of our fine Wesley's Parish moderators, who will receive far less of their rightful share of the take, since much of my salary, when pooled, would then go to moderators who don't deserve it nearly as much as do ours, since Wesley's Parish is the proud possessor of the most notorious CFT of all, myself.
If you are paid less and the other moderators paid more, then I will appear to be far less notorious than I am at present; by my calculations, nearly negligble, and then your status will fall sharply in the eyes of the rest of the staff, and some of them are therefore quite likely to stop paying you to encourage me to stand fast in my Wesleyan faith, so that they don't have to worry about being stuck with me because I've converted to theirs.
In conclusion, I feel that, for your own well-being, you should should place a ceiling on my fee at its present amount until Erwin has a chance to stock the phaser rifle I have requested in order to get and keep the upper hand I need until they again viciously quarrel and are unable to cooperate together in their nefarious plan of cheating you; yes, you, a mod Of Wesley's Parish, one of the three finest mods in this or any other quadrant of the galaxy, and who does not deserve to both sustain considerable financial loss and to have some vastly inferior CFT foisted off on you in my place. They are counting on you to fall for their cheap, shabby tricks, wvmtnkid, but you are far, far cleverer than all of them combined, and I have every confidence that you will not be fooled by these pathetic slackers!
Have I mentioned lately how much I admire and respect you, wvmtnkid?
Well, you did a fine job explaining my position, so it seems you are saved from the plague....this time!herev said:Hello Josh!!!, welcome to WP. I think (God may strike me with the plague for speaking for a moderator), but it seems to me that wvmtnkid would only ask you to revise your statemtn because of where you are, not what you believe.
Again, welcome, and thanks for the education on the Bible Missionary Church--I was unaware of its history--I always like learning more and more of our Wesleyan Brothers and SistersJoshua Howard said:In response to herev, I am weslian in theology. I do not personally endorse the methodist Church, due to it's modern day corruption, however... For those of you who don't know, the Bible Missionary Church is an offshoot of the Nazarene Church. (It was founded 1955 I believe.)
I appreciate you candor and your ferver in standing up for what you believe in--especially at your age--and your willingness to say, you know what, I might have done that differently given a chance--it is a sure sign of maturity when one can say that.Joshua Howard said:Regarding the commotion that was made over my previous post, and in light of the fact that it was removed against my consent, this one thing I will say -- I may have sounded overly harsh, and if I had it to do over again, I may have chosen slightly differient wording -- but one of my principles is this, that everyone's word has a right to stand, regardless of what others think of it. In summary, I think that it would be more fitting for them to kick me out of the forum than for them to delete my posts in accordance with their whims.
I am sorry for your experiences, I do not know which forum it was in, so I can't address that with any reason. I agree with you that we, as the church universal has become too attracted to wanting to be made too comfortable too often. I do believe though, as Wesley did, that you needn't agree with all of my doctrine to be counted as a brother. I am not sure what your denomination teaches, but one of my favorite quotes from John Wesley (as taught to me by my United Methodist Doctrine professor) can be found in WesleyJohn's signature line. It goes something like this: Though we do not think alike, may we not love alike?Joshua Howard said:Regarding a swayed tollerance toward liberalism, I have been flamed countless times for my beliefs in light of standards, and not once to my knowledge was anyone warned or repremanded for their comments. People like to be a part of a warm and fuzzy religion that lets them believe everyone is their brother, and teach that every road leads to rome. They are wrong, and the simple fact is, they don't like anyone who challenges that.
Thanks for taking the time to ensure to others that you mean no personal insult. I pray God's blessings on you as you continue to grow in Christ.Joshua Howard said:None the less, case closed.Once again, I never aimed to slam anyone, and if someone is offended, that person may rest assured that such was not my goal. God Bless,
In Christ Jesus,
Joshua
Sorry, I went out on a limb and meant he'd be elected by Americans not any particular denomination. I agree churches shouldn't endorse candidates.nicks17 said:Texas Lynn,
Could you explain your post please. I agree that Methodists are ecumenical. But I don't necessarily agree that Methodists will vote for John Kerry. I say this not because it would be more Methodist to vote for George Bush, but because the United Methodist denomination does not support any one candidate above the other. I would be offended if a pastor, or a district, or a conference, or the general conference instructed Methodists how to vote. I think it would be much more ecumenical, too, if Methodists voted for who they felt was the best candidate individually. Bush himself is a United Methodist but on the other hand John Edwards is a United Methodist.
God Bless,
Nick
In every U.S. Presidential election since 1928 except 1972, 1980, and 1984, the majority of Catholic voters voted for the Democratic candidate and polls indicate they will this year too.bigsierra said:Most Catholics I know aren't inclined to vote for him, even if he does claim the religion
Sorry, I went out on a limb and meant he'd be elected by Americans not any particular denomination. I agree churches shouldn't endorse candidates.
No offense taken. That has to be the nicest apology I've ever seen directed at anyone on any MB.nicks17 said:Well if that was your meaning then I apologize. I was under the impression that when you said "we" in your first post you were referring the United Methodist Church instead of your prediction as to who America would elect in general. Again I apologize for my misinterpretation and thank you for explaining your post. Have a great day.
God Bless,
Nick
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