Question for Muslims

Green Man · Feb 26, 2005

arunma said:
I do wish that we had blasphemy laws in America. Freedom of speech is great, but some people take it way too far when they start attacking God.

I guess that would depend on whose God you're talking about,now wouldn't it?

arunma · Feb 26, 2005

How about you're just not allowed to blaspheme anyone's god? I really don't see how blasphemy would ever be beneficial to society.

farside · Feb 26, 2005

Wow! Allah, the superman of the universe, can be hurt!

Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 369: Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" . .

Top Ten Ways Allah can be Hurt

1) Blasphemous speech that has a decibel level of 160 dB or more

2) Blasphemous speech that has a decibel level of less than 10 dB

3) Reading blasphemous writings

4) Writing blasphemy

5) Thinking blasphemy

6) Posting in Christianforums.com

7) Memorizing the Quran in English

8) Listening to blasphemous music, especially bells

9) Memorizing article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights

10) Dreaming blashemous dreams

Kind Regards,
Farside

markie4u2001 · Feb 26, 2005

rahma said:
Basically, yes. The Masjid al Haram is the entire mosque complex:

While the Kabba is the cube inside:

The kaaba is that black thing?

bible_mark_10_18 · Feb 26, 2005

you have to also add in that many christains dont stand up to the new world order even thought it is useing its name to hide behind its pagan roots

bible_mark_10_18 · Feb 26, 2005

the new world order

i would like to open the floor about the new world order.
i am sick of people avoiding teh subject. if you have anything to say about tin hats or what ever dont bother posting. keep it to yourself.
this post is for showing audio and video and staying on teh subject.
here is a clip of bush saying new world order
http://www.prisonplanet.com/bushsnNWO.mpa
along with some good clips.

before you say anything in this post please look at all the links and talk about them in your reply

this was shown march 2001 keep in mind the fox ch is owned by and all media outlets are men who work hand and hand to bring about a new world order.
http://fyleserva.com/video/lonegunmen_pilot.WMV
http://infowars.com/print/Sept11/long_kiss.htm
http://infowars.com/articles/sept11...ne_pentagon.htm

and to the guy saying that they dont do pagan thing at the groove click the link and watch it dont matter if you trust want the man says trust your eyes and you own study of the matter
http://www.prisonplanet.com/120603darksecrets.html

and about the hook em horns cover up story
"We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries." David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991
http://www.inlibertyandfreedom.com/nwo.htm
its on the back of the dollar bill for pete sake what more do you need

how about the mark of the beast
click here http://www.tldm.org/News4/MarkoftheBeast.htm click here
and before you say thats not real why dont you order it
here is the site to do so http://www.4verichip.com/ here is the site to do so
or how bout here http://www.adsx.com/prodservpart/verichip.html or how bout here
listen if you feel i dont know what im talking about when it comes to the new world order fine keep it to your self the proff is out there for any one with half a brain
the devil (iblis) is real and he seek to place his son the antichrist (dajaal) on the seat as teh king of the human world
im done on this matter
i move back to ufos or djinn
ufo or djinn

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or *promulgated* [emphasis mine], that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this *scenario*, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991
http://www.inlibertyandfreedom.com/nwo.htm

infomation about jinns

http://www.thejinn.net/

http://www.thejinn.net/page2.html

djinns as heaven host
Quran sura 18 verse 50
And when We said to the angels: Make obeisance to Adam; they made obeisance but Iblis (did it not). He was of the jinn, so he transgressed the commandment of his Lord. What! would you then take him and his offspring for friends rather than Me, and they are your enemies? Evil is (this) change for the unjust.

rahma · Feb 26, 2005

markie4u2001 said:
The kaaba is that black thing?

Yes

Cadillac · Feb 28, 2005

I got another ?

Why didn't Muslims or Islamic countries conquer the New World and make colonies, like Christian Europe did?

What were they doing while Americas were being discovered and colonized?

Tours732 · Mar 1, 2005

arunma said:
I do wish that we had blasphemy laws in America. Freedom of speech is great, but some people take it way too far when they start attacking God.

So you do not believe in the separation of church and state? People have the right to believe whatever they want, and the right to publically state what they believe. And anyway, how would you define 'attacking God'?

rahma · Mar 1, 2005

Cadillac said:
I got another ?

Why didn't Muslims or Islamic countries conquer the New World and make colonies, like Christian Europe did?

What were they doing while Americas were being discovered and colonized?

Because at the time, Muslims controlled over land trade route to the Orient. Europeans didn't go out searching for new lands to colonize, they went out looking for a faster way to the Orient. They didn't want to pay fees to muslims as they traveled over land, and the trip around Africa was a bit too long and dangerous.

Green Man · Mar 1, 2005

rahma said:
Because at the time, Muslims controlled over land trade route to the Orient. Europeans didn't go out searching for new lands to colonize, they went out looking for a faster way to the Orient. They didn't want to pay fees to muslims as they traveled over land, and the trip around Africa was a bit too long and dangerous.

It never ceases to amaze me how muslims are always the helpless victims no matter what the thread is about.

NOTW · Mar 1, 2005

farside said:
FYI Its in the Quran!

Angel Gabriel told Muhammad that the DNA structure of a pagan is different than a Muslim and that all pagans should be prohibited from visiting Mecca because of their malformed genetic structure. However, if a pagan reverts to Islam, his DNA will mutate to the ideal structure.

Kind Regards,
Farside

(1) The DNA of a muslim is different than the DNA of another muslim.
(2) Does that mean Allah cares so much about appearances and ignores what's in the inside?
(3) I like the mutation idea...

NOTW · Mar 1, 2005

farside said:
Top Ten Ways Allah can be Hurt

1) Blasphemous speech that has a decibel level of 160 dB or more

2) Blasphemous speech that has a decibel level of less than 10 dB

3) Reading blasphemous writings

4) Writing blasphemy

5) Thinking blasphemy

6) Posting in Christianforums.com

7) Memorizing the Quran in English

8) Listening to blasphemous music, especially bells

9) Memorizing article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights

10) Dreaming blashemous dreams

Kind Regards,
Farside

(6) If posting in CF really hurts Allah, then why are you posting here then?
(7) If memorizing the Qur'an in English, then maybe Islam wasn't meant for other than Arabs?
(4) Then you, muslims, think that Taha Hussein (I bet you all know him) was a blasphemous person since he wrote a blasphemous book saying that the Qur'an is not significant and that he, Taha Hussein, can re-write another Qur'an.

Don't you think (1), (2) & (3) are a little bit offensive, especially with the icons next to them referring to Christians?

NOTW · Mar 1, 2005

Cadillac said:
I got another ?

Why didn't Muslims or Islamic countries conquer the New World and make colonies, like Christian Europe did?

What were they doing while Americas were being discovered and colonized?

Probably playing the game: who's going to kill more infidels...

rahma · Mar 1, 2005

NOTW said:
(6) If posting in CF really hurts Allah, then why are you posting here then?
(7) If memorizing the Qur'an in English, then maybe Islam wasn't meant for other than Arabs?
(4) Then you, muslims, think that Taha Hussein (I bet you all know him) was a blasphemous person since he wrote a blasphemous book saying that the Qur'an is not significant and that he, Taha Hussein, can re-write another Qur'an.

Don't you think (1), (2) & (3) are a little bit offensive, especially with the icons next to them referring to Christians?

Farside is not a muslim. We don't know his faith, but he tries to be funny, and fails misrably

rahma · Mar 1, 2005

NOTW said:
(1) The DNA of a muslim is different than the DNA of another muslim.
(2) Does that mean Allah cares so much about appearances and ignores what's in the inside?
(3) I like the mutation idea...

Farside was attempting to make a joke, and not a very funny one at that.

rahma · Mar 1, 2005

Green Man said:
It never ceases to amaze me how muslims are always the helpless victims no matter what the thread is about.

Where did I say muslims were victims? Muslims were on top of the world, controlling the silk road, and the Europeans were sick of paying the fees muslims charged for use of this route.

It never ceases to amaze me that you always have something negative to say about muslims.

Green Man · Mar 1, 2005

rahma said:
Where did I say muslims were victims? Muslims were on top of the world, controlling the silk road, and the Europeans were sick of paying the fees muslims charged for use of this route.

It never ceases to amaze me that you always have something negative to say about muslims.

Yeah,those bad ol' europeans cheating muslims out of their money that way.

rahma · Mar 1, 2005

Green Man said:
Yeah,those bad ol' europeans cheating muslims out of their money that way.

Dude, what is your problem? I was stating historical facts. Never did I make a value judgment on anyone in my historical fact statement. Quit twisting my words, trying to make me look bad.

Muslim · Mar 1, 2005

Cadillac said:
I got another ?

Why didn't Muslims or Islamic countries conquer the New World and make colonies, like Christian Europe did?

What were they doing while Americas were being discovered and colonized?

Actually the first explorer to the new world was Zheng He, a Chinese Muslim. With his large fleet of ships he sailed along the coast of north america and south america and made documented maps, then he and his men made settlements there, which are still there today. But unlike the Europeans who went into the new world killing the native people there in a savage race for gold, the Muslims lived peacefully with them. Even in his own journal columbus mentions seeing "Mohamadeans" living with the native americans he encountered. Here's an article about him if you want to know more.
http://www.asianpacificpost.com/news/article/332.html

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