Question about Courts of heaven

[germo155]

Hi everyone, I want to ask anyone about Courts of heaven, I have read countless times but it has not clear doctrine behind, so I dont know if its right to apply such practice, as if I did some research, I found one main preacher who talks about it, shares videos online. He's name is Robert Henderson, now I want to be very careful with my tongue, and to be not judgmental, but when I seek about this what he called revelation he had, and I wanted to be sure, if I dont follow false teaching, then I kind of started to seek he's background and more if he's videos, now what seem to me, he focused lot about prosperity preaching, and so I have very strong feeling about it, wich means, I dont accept prosperity Gospel. I dont know if that has to do with my own pride, or even greed etc, just that I dont want to be deceived, I have been warned about famous prosperity teachers.
I checked he's books, and he seem to be writing about courts of heaven and how to take ur case there and to get freedom from all sorts of things, now I have had question if its a new age teaching, and some other spirits?

I kindly ask you if you personally have apply this teaching and how has it help you, and why you think that it is not deception?
Coz if it is true teaching, wouldn't we also change out hearts and not be tied to prosperity gospel? Same I notice with people who preach about tongues/ baptism of the holy sprit, wich I belive. Wouldn't that produce fruits of the spirit? That we actually seek things from above, then not greed for money and prosperity, why I say that? Its coz its I have observed that most people who preach abut baptism of Holy Spirit/tongues tend to seek power, they emphasise power, but then if I look close their background again sadly I find its about prosperity gospel they share, so please correct me and guide me, if I been judgemental?


Sorry about my English skills


God bless!

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Hi everyone, I want to ask anyone about Courts of heaven, I have read countless times but it has not clear doctrine behind, so I dont know if its right to apply such practice, as if I did some research, I found one main preacher who talks about it, shares videos online. He's name is Robert Henderson, now I want to be very careful with my tongue, and to be not judgmental, but when I seek about this what he called revelation he had, and I wanted to be sure, if I dont follow false teaching, then I kind of started to seek he's background and more if he's videos, now what seem to me, he focused lot about prosperity preaching, and so I have very strong feeling about it, wich means, I dont accept prosperity Gospel. I dont know if that has to do with my own pride, or even greed etc, just that I dont want to be deceived, I have been warned about famous prosperity teachers.
I checked he's books, and he seem to be writing about courts of heaven and how to take ur case there and to get freedom from all sorts of things, now I have had question if its a new age teaching, and some other spirits?

I kindly ask you if you personally have apply this teaching and how has it help you, and why you think that it is not deception?
Coz if it is true teaching, wouldn't we also change out hearts and not be tied to prosperity gospel? Same I notice with people who preach about tongues/ baptism of the holy sprit, wich I belive. Wouldn't that produce fruits of the spirit? That we actually seek things from above, then not greed for money and prosperity, why I say that? Its coz its I have observed that most people who preach abut baptism of Holy Spirit/tongues tend to seek power, they emphasise power, but then if I look close their background again sadly I find its about prosperity gospel they share, so please correct me and guide me, if I been judgemental?


Sorry about my English skills


God bless!

There is no scriptural evidence of courts in heaven. We have One Advocate with the Father , Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Veering from this truth will expose one to the deceptive tactics of the WOF movement.
Be blessed.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Hi everyone, I want to ask anyone about Courts of heaven, I have read countless times but it has not clear doctrine behind, so I dont know if its right to apply such practice, as if I did some research, I found one main preacher who talks about it, shares videos online. He's name is Robert Henderson, now I want to be very careful with my tongue, and to be not judgmental, but when I seek about this what he called revelation he had, and I wanted to be sure, if I dont follow false teaching, then I kind of started to seek he's background and more if he's videos, now what seem to me, he focused lot about prosperity preaching, and so I have very strong feeling about it, wich means, I dont accept prosperity Gospel. I dont know if that has to do with my own pride, or even greed etc, just that I dont want to be deceived, I have been warned about famous prosperity teachers.
I checked he's books, and he seem to be writing about courts of heaven and how to take ur case there and to get freedom from all sorts of things, now I have had question if its a new age teaching, and some other spirits?

I kindly ask you if you personally have apply this teaching and how has it help you, and why you think that it is not deception?
Coz if it is true teaching, wouldn't we also change out hearts and not be tied to prosperity gospel? Same I notice with people who preach about tongues/ baptism of the holy sprit, wich I belive. Wouldn't that produce fruits of the spirit? That we actually seek things from above, then not greed for money and prosperity, why I say that? Its coz its I have observed that most people who preach abut baptism of Holy Spirit/tongues tend to seek power, they emphasise power, but then if I look close their background again sadly I find its about prosperity gospel they share, so please correct me and guide me, if I been judgemental?


Sorry about my English skills


God bless!

Every Government has laws, and every judge needs a basis to judge by and God is no different.

God did not leave it up to man to write the law He Judges us by He personally wrote it with His own finger, the Ten Commandments. Exo 31:18 Exo 32:16 and this is His version, not what has been edited to suit man. God said He would not alter His Words Psa 89:34 Mat 5:18-19

Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter:

Fear God and keep His commandments,
For this is man’s all.
14 For God will bring every work into judgment,
Including every secret thing,
Whether good or evil.

James 2:10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. (only found in the Ten Commandments Exo 20) 12 So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty

The earthy temple was just a miniature pointing to God's heavenly Temple Heb 8:1-5 and why the Ten Commandments are under God's mercy seat revealed in heaven Rev 11:19 because it is what all man will be Judged by the way Jesus expanded on Mat 5:18-30 where mercy and justice will come together.

God tells us all have to stand before Christ based on our deeds
1 Cor 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

Our judgement has decided in heaven because when He comes His reward will be with Him so all decision made see Rev 22:11-12 but we will hear His verdict when He comes.

We will be Judged according to our deeds and the books will be opened up in heaven and we will either have our names in the Book of Life or not if blotted out

Rev 22:11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before [a]God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books.

The law is not what saves us, it is how we are Judged. We all have sinned and deserve death, the law is given so we can see our sins Rom 7:7 Rom 3:20 and so we are not depending on our righteousness but on God's Psa 119:172 and the law shows our need for a Savior. We are not saved in our sins, we are saved from sin Mat 1:21 Christ not only died to save us from the penalty of sin, He came to save us from the power of sin. Through Jesus and our faith and love we can overcome sin and obey His commandments John 14:15-18 we need to confess and forsake our sins Pro 28:13 which means a change and we can do that through Christ Phil 4:13

 

[germo155]

Every Government has laws, and every judge needs a basis to judge by and God is no different.

God did not leave it up to man to write the law He Judges us by He personally wrote it with His own finger, the Ten Commandments. Exo 31:18 Exo 32:16 and this is His version, not what has been edited to suit man. God said He would not alter His Words Psa 89:34 Mat 5:18-19

Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter:

Fear God and keep His commandments,
For this is man’s all.
14 For God will bring every work into judgment,
Including every secret thing,
Whether good or evil.

James 2:10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. (only found in the Ten Commandments Exo 20) 12 So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty

The earthy temple was just a miniature pointing to God's heavenly Temple Heb 8:1-5 and why the Ten Commandments are under God's mercy seat revealed in heaven Rev 11:19 because it is what all man will be Judged by the way Jesus expanded on Mat 5:18-30 where mercy and justice will come together.

God tells us all have to stand before Christ based on our deeds
1 Cor 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

Our judgement has decided in heaven because when He comes His reward will be with Him so all decision made see Rev 22:11-12 but we will hear His verdict when He comes.

We will be Judged according to our deeds and the books will be opened up in heaven and we will either have our names in the Book of Life or not if blotted out

Rev 22:11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before [a]God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books.

The law is not what saves us, it is how we are Judged. We all have sinned and deserve death, the law is given so we can see our sins Rom 7:7 Rom 3:20 and so we are not depending on our righteousness but on God's Psa 119:172 and the law shows our need for a Savior. We are not saved in our sins, we are saved from sin Mat 1:21 Christ not only died to save us from the penalty of sin, He came to save us from the power of sin. Through Jesus and our faith and love we can overcome sin and obey His commandments John 14:15-18 we need to confess and forsake our sins Pro 28:13 which means a change and we can do that through Christ Phil 4:13

I meant doctrine to enter there by faith, I guess u did bring top lot scriptures, but how u enter there to bring case there?

God bless

 

[SabbathBlessings]

I meant doctrine to enter there by faith, I guess u did bring top lot scriptures, but how u enter there to bring case there?

God bless

Obedience to God is faith Rev 14:12 Rom 3:31 and no one gets there by disobedience thats what separated us Isa 59:2

Hebrews 4 speaks of this but sadly many people misinterpret this passage.

Heb 4:11 Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience. 12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.
14 Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. 15 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.

Many mistake grace for disobedience, but thats not at all what it means

Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? 2 Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it? 3 Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? 4 Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

We should come boldly to His throne of grace, but that consists of confessing our sins and turning from sin, dying of self- walking in newness in Christ. Sadly people teach we can hold on to our old life and continue in sin, but thats not what the scriptures teach, we need a conversion which means a change in direction. We have a faithful Savior who wants nothing more than to forgive us of our sins which is why He taught from the beginning repent, for the Kingdom of God is at hand and once He forgives (gives grace) He says go and sin no more, so He puts us right back under the law and kept by God’s faithful Rev 14:12 through Christ John 14:15-18

 

[germo155]

Obedience to God is faith Rev 14:12 Rom 3:31 and no one gets there by disobedience thats what separated us Isa 59:2

Hebrews 4 speaks of this but sadly many people misinterpret this passage.

Heb 4:11 Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience. 12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.
14 Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. 15 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.

Many mistake grace for disobedience, but thats not at all what it means

Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? 2 Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it? 3 Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? 4 Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

We should come boldly to His throne of grace, but that consists of confessing our sins and turning from sin, dying of self- walking in newness in Christ. Sadly people teach we can hold on to our old life and continue in sin, but thats not what the scriptures teach, we need a conversion which means a change in direction. We have a faithful Savior who wants nothing more than to forgive us of our sins which is why He taught from the beginning repent, for the Kingdom of God is at hand and once He forgives (gives grace) He says go and sin no more, so He puts us right back under the law and kept by God’s faithful Rev 14:12 through Christ John 14:15-18

U know there are people still struggle in sin after 40 y, I think so do you. We can only rely on Christ and he will work in us, just we need to keep our eyes on him.
There is should not be condemnation, we do sin, u can sin even with pride areas u never are aware of, we need to be humble and just keep eyes on Christ Sin no more, but we still struggle, listen, I wish I dont ... but being always sin conscious when I gonna mess it up is bringing bondage,fear, anxiety. But I think fellowship is the best way to keep close to Jesus, and if we sin we can run to he's arms. He is our father. I have not ,et any person who hasn't struggle, alto there are some who claim they are not sinning, but if u talk to the more, u see they have lots pride and arrogance, wich is blinding them. So I better be honest and humble, I trust God will help to cleanse and build us in many areas.

I talked about different topic, I talk about courts of heaven and bringing case there, and getting free from bonages, who knows, sexual bondages, traumas related that actually keep us in sin/bondage. So, if that is not what u struggle with, u may have other sin areas, we all have
Just being humble and honest with Lord is good.

God bless

 

[SabbathBlessings]

U know there are people still struggle in sin after 40 y, I think so do you. We can only rely on Christ and he will work in us, just we need to keep our eyes on him.
There is should not be condemnation, we do sin, u can sin even with pride areas u never are aware of, we need to be humble and just keep eyes on Christ Sin no more, but we still struggle, listen, I wish I dont ... but being always sin conscious when I gonna mess it up is bringing bondage,fear, anxiety. But I think fellowship is the best way to keep close to Jesus, and if we sin we can run to he's arms. He is our father. I have not ,et any person who hasn't struggle, alto there are some who claim they are not sinning, but if u talk to the more, u see they have lots pride and arrogance, wich is blinding them. So I better be honest and humble, I trust God will help to cleanse and build us in many areas.

I talked about different topic, I talk about courts of heaven and bringing case there, and getting free from bonages, who knows, sexual bondages, traumas related that actually keep us in sin/bondage. So, if that is not what u struggle with, u may have other sin areas, we all have
Just being humble and honest with Lord is good.

God bless

We all have sinned and need a Savior, but God wants to free us of the bondage of sin.

While we can’t do it alone we can through Christ. Whatever our sin is give it to Him and earnestly ask for His help in overcoming

Psa 119:86 All Your commandments are faithful;
They persecute me wrongfully;
Help me!
87 They almost made an end of me on earth,
But I did not forsake Your precepts.
88 Revive me according to Your lovingkindness,
So that I may keep the testimony of Your mouth.

 

[bèlla]

The premise behind the courts of heaven is prayer.

Do not be anxious or worried about anything, but in everything [every circumstance and situation] by prayer and petition with thanksgiving, continue to make your [specific] requests known to God.

Why is it necessary to do it with prayer and petition? Isn't prayer enough? This should prompt the reader to explore the second principle in the verse.

Petition: A formal request or supplication, verbal or written; particularly, a written supplication from an inferior to a superior, either to a single person clothed with power, or to a legislative or other body, soliciting some favor, grant, right or mercy.

If you look up the word in Webster's 1828 dictionary you'll see the word used with legal proceedings in mind much like we petition the court today.

Satan is styled the "accuser of the brethren" (Revelation 12:10. Comp. Job 1:6; Zechariah 3:1). He was regarded by the Jews as the accuser of men before God, laying to their charge the violations of the law of which they were guilty, and demanding their punishment. The same Greek word, rendered "accuser," is found in John 8:10 (but omitted in the Revised Version); Acts 23:30, 35;24:8; 25:16, 18, in all of which places it is used of one who brings a charge against another.

ACCUSER
a-kuz'-er: This word, not found in the Old Testament, is the rendering of two Greek words:

(1) kategoros, that is, a prosecutor, or plaintiff in a lawsuit, or one who speaks in a derogatory way of another (Acts 23:30, 35; Acts 25:16, 18 Revelation 12:10);

(2) diabolos, meaning adversary or enemy. This word is rendered "accuser" in the King James Version and "slanderer" in the Revised Version (British and American) and the American Standard Revised Version (2 Timothy 3:3 Titus 2:3). According to the rabbinic teaching Satan, or the devil, was regarded as hostile to God and man, and that it was a part of his work to accuse the latter of disloyalty and sin before the tribunal of the former (see Job 1:6; Zechariah 3:1; Revelation 12:10).

You don't need to follow Henderson nor is it a teaching for one without a solid grounding in the word. Once that's in place you're able to chew the fat and spit out the bones with anything you hear. You make use of what's sound and discard the rest.

I'm not pentecostal or charismatic but I understand the premise behind the concept especially when viewed in legal terms. It's akin to the person who files a claim incessantly for every infraction. Which requires spiritual attentiveness and a willingness to meet them in prayer with a comparable ferocity.

We need to pray more because he never stops working. We need to be strategic in our supplication and petitions because he's equally so in his accusations. If we're wise like the serpent we'll see the same in our prayers and navigations in the flesh. We move offensively and defensively in the spirit realm.

My prayer life wasn't forged with the court of heaven in mind. But I understand it and utilize the strategies that allow me to employ what the Lord intended for my life on earth as it is in heaven. I've had numerous doors open and opportunities fall in my lap unexpectedly. I've been healed of two incurable diseases; one malady and another is nearing its completion. All addressed in prayer with little to no medical intervention. I've had connections reconciled that seemed impossible to heal and more business and investment ideas than I can count.

I don't pray for prosperity or follow its proponents. It's His reward for my service coupled with divine impartation. He's given me the gifts and talents to succeed in an area that warrants great compensation and the stars bear witness.

That's the difference between milk and meat. As you grow in the latter you unlock higher truths and see subjects in a different light. You understand the things the devil corrupted that originated with the Lord. But they're rarely topics one seeks for themselves without a prompting from Him or a nugget He places in the spirit.

If you're struggling with sin you should be deepening your understanding of spiritual warfare. While the teaching is part of the process it relies on familiarity with the other to employ. You should be able to get a prayer through and see results for your troubles consistently. Otherwise you're likely to faint. When you're accustomed to pulling things down from heaven you know that it doesn't happen overnight. Some results arrive quicker than others and steadfastness is a must.

By the time I started doing this I'd experienced everything I mentioned. It's another rung on Jacob's ladder as is the rest. Master your position before leaping ahead. The more you unlock the more you encounter and He uses you differently. There will come a point when you pray that you'll know He'll answer and expect it. That's when you're ready for this. There's other teachings that accompany it He'll bring to mind.

If you become adept at spiritual warfare in its simplest state you'll alleviate a lot of problems and hear from Him consistently. Which will negate your question. He'll answer it before you write it. ;-)

Good luck.

~bella

 

[Richard T]

Hi there again,
I heard about this book in an interview whom I will assume was Henderson. It sounded a bit stretched. Similar to name and claim it preachers, you have to know the limitations. That limit is one's personal faith. How does one achieve the faith? You have to spend time in the word and get a rhema from God for many things. James is clear that you can't have what is to serve your own lusts. It has to be within the will of God. To know the will of God and have faith you have to hear from God.
I'll use Kenneth E. Hagin as an example. Not only did he write the Midas Touch, that warned that some took prosperity gospel too far, he also would pray, praise and confess scriptures for hours even days just to break though to receive a healing. So this man who was healed of a heart condition as a teenager, when another sickness came on him or his family still had to find faith in God for new circumstances. Believers with even less experience might take far longer and for those who just say a few things thinking God surely is just a genie or something, they often are disappointed.
From what little I know about the courts of heaven it too is trying to present itself as a shortcut to receiving from God. I think the perspective and idea is OK, but the focus of gaining from God is about a relationship, not just about declarations and formulas. We need the revelation ourselves and no book can fully give that to us, we have to hear from God.
I personally am OK with prosperity but wisdom is far better. Love too is more important than power but in reality we all just need balance in the things of God to optimize His will and ministry to others.
As to another of your comments you are right that sin can be a struggle for anyone. Sometimes deliverance can achieve success. Fasting too can work, as can reading the word and getting revelation and God's will on a matter. The main thing is to do what you can a look to God for help in every way.
I am sure Jesus knew about the courts of heaven, yet he sweated blood and learned obedience from the things that He suffered. He never sinned but he knows our temptations. We just have to find a way to flow with God more, to walk in the spirit and not in the flesh. Easier to say. than to do.
One idea that is scriptural too is to focus more on who you are in Christ, and less on sin. The bible says were law increases, sin increases all the more. So one has to see themselves as righteous. Though it is seemingly an impossible task, I actually loved the book, "A Plain Account of Christian Perfection" from John Wesley. I try to see that as a goal, rather than look at all my frailties. Nonetheless, we just have to move forward with what we have and try to soften our heart for good ground to plant more and more seed until we grow. May God bless everyone in their walk.

 

[germo155]

The premise behind the courts of heaven is prayer.

Do not be anxious or worried about anything, but in everything [every circumstance and situation] by prayer and petition with thanksgiving, continue to make your [specific] requests known to God.

Why is it necessary to do it with prayer and petition? Isn't prayer enough? This should prompt the reader to explore the second principle in the verse.

Petition: A formal request or supplication, verbal or written; particularly, a written supplication from an inferior to a superior, either to a single person clothed with power, or to a legislative or other body, soliciting some favor, grant, right or mercy.

If you look up the word in Webster's 1828 dictionary you'll see the word used with legal proceedings in mind much like we petition the court today.

Satan is styled the "accuser of the brethren" (Revelation 12:10. Comp. Job 1:6; Zechariah 3:1). He was regarded by the Jews as the accuser of men before God, laying to their charge the violations of the law of which they were guilty, and demanding their punishment. The same Greek word, rendered "accuser," is found in John 8:10 (but omitted in the Revised Version); Acts 23:30, 35;24:8; 25:16, 18, in all of which places it is used of one who brings a charge against another.

ACCUSER
a-kuz'-er: This word, not found in the Old Testament, is the rendering of two Greek words:

(1) kategoros, that is, a prosecutor, or plaintiff in a lawsuit, or one who speaks in a derogatory way of another (Acts 23:30, 35; Acts 25:16, 18 Revelation 12:10);

(2) diabolos, meaning adversary or enemy. This word is rendered "accuser" in the King James Version and "slanderer" in the Revised Version (British and American) and the American Standard Revised Version (2 Timothy 3:3 Titus 2:3). According to the rabbinic teaching Satan, or the devil, was regarded as hostile to God and man, and that it was a part of his work to accuse the latter of disloyalty and sin before the tribunal of the former (see Job 1:6; Zechariah 3:1; Revelation 12:10).

You don't need to follow Henderson nor is it a teaching for one without a solid grounding in the word. Once that's in place you're able to chew the fat and spit out the bones with anything you hear. You make use of what's sound and discard the rest.

I'm not pentecostal or charismatic but I understand the premise behind the concept especially when viewed in legal terms. It's akin to the person who files a claim incessantly for every infraction. Which requires spiritual attentiveness and a willingness to meet them in prayer with a comparable ferocity.

We need to pray more because he never stops working. We need to be strategic in our supplication and petitions because he's equally so in his accusations. If we're wise like the serpent we'll see the same in our prayers and navigations in the flesh. We move offensively and defensively in the spirit realm.

I am neither charismatic or pentecostal nor was my prayer life forged with this in mind. But I understand it and utilize the strategies that allow me to employ what the Lord intended for my life on earth as it is in heaven. I've had numerous doors open and opportunities fall in my lap unexpectedly. I've been healed of two incurable diseases; one malady and another is nearing its completion. All addressed in prayer with little to no medical intervention. I've had connections reconciled that seemed impossible to heal and more business and investment ideas than I can count.

I don't pray for prosperity or follow its proponents. It's His reward for my service coupled with divine impartation. He's given me the gifts and talents to succeed in an area that warrants great compensation and the stars bear witness.

That's the difference between milk and meat. As you grow in the latter you unlock higher truths and see subjects in a different light. You understand the things the devil corrupted that originated with the Lord. But they're rarely topics one seeks for themselves without a prompting from Him or a nugget He places in the spirit.

If you're struggling with sin you should be deepening your understanding of spiritual warfare. While the teaching is part of the process it relies on familiarity with the other to employ. You should be able to get a prayer through and see results for your troubles consistently. Otherwise you're likely to faint. When you're accustomed to pulling things down from heaven you know that it doesn't happen overnight. Some results arrive quicker than others and steadfastness is a must.

By the time I started doing this I'd experienced everything I mentioned. It's another rung on Jacob's ladder as is the rest. Master your position before leaping ahead. The more you unlock the more you encounter and He uses you differently. There will come a point when you praye that you'll know He'll answer and expect it. That's when you're ready for this. There's other teachings that accompany it He'll bring to mind.

If you become adept at spiritual warfare in its simplest state you'll alleviate a lot of problems and hear from Him consistently. Which will negate your question. He'll answer it before you write it. ;-)

Good luck.

~bella

Thanks for kind answer. I have heard people get free from lots things that they been praying for years before, fasting, deliverance (casting out) And if they haven't seen success, courts been helping, and it can be systematic and to root out those issues. But I get now general idea. Our. God is almighty.


Thanks Bella!

 

[germo155]

The premise behind the courts of heaven is prayer.

Do not be anxious or worried about anything, but in everything [every circumstance and situation] by prayer and petition with thanksgiving, continue to make your [specific] requests known to God.

Why is it necessary to do it with prayer and petition? Isn't prayer enough? This should prompt the reader to explore the second principle in the verse.

Petition: A formal request or supplication, verbal or written; particularly, a written supplication from an inferior to a superior, either to a single person clothed with power, or to a legislative or other body, soliciting some favor, grant, right or mercy.

If you look up the word in Webster's 1828 dictionary you'll see the word used with legal proceedings in mind much like we petition the court today.

Satan is styled the "accuser of the brethren" (Revelation 12:10. Comp. Job 1:6; Zechariah 3:1). He was regarded by the Jews as the accuser of men before God, laying to their charge the violations of the law of which they were guilty, and demanding their punishment. The same Greek word, rendered "accuser," is found in John 8:10 (but omitted in the Revised Version); Acts 23:30, 35;24:8; 25:16, 18, in all of which places it is used of one who brings a charge against another.

ACCUSER
a-kuz'-er: This word, not found in the Old Testament, is the rendering of two Greek words:

(1) kategoros, that is, a prosecutor, or plaintiff in a lawsuit, or one who speaks in a derogatory way of another (Acts 23:30, 35; Acts 25:16, 18 Revelation 12:10);

(2) diabolos, meaning adversary or enemy. This word is rendered "accuser" in the King James Version and "slanderer" in the Revised Version (British and American) and the American Standard Revised Version (2 Timothy 3:3 Titus 2:3). According to the rabbinic teaching Satan, or the devil, was regarded as hostile to God and man, and that it was a part of his work to accuse the latter of disloyalty and sin before the tribunal of the former (see Job 1:6; Zechariah 3:1; Revelation 12:10).

You don't need to follow Henderson nor is it a teaching for one without a solid grounding in the word. Once that's in place you're able to chew the fat and spit out the bones with anything you hear. You make use of what's sound and discard the rest.

I'm not pentecostal or charismatic but I understand the premise behind the concept especially when viewed in legal terms. It's akin to the person who files a claim incessantly for every infraction. Which requires spiritual attentiveness and a willingness to meet them in prayer with a comparable ferocity.

We need to pray more because he never stops working. We need to be strategic in our supplication and petitions because he's equally so in his accusations. If we're wise like the serpent we'll see the same in our prayers and navigations in the flesh. We move offensively and defensively in the spirit realm.

My prayer life wasn't forged with the court of heaven in mind. But I understand it and utilize the strategies that allow me to employ what the Lord intended for my life on earth as it is in heaven. I've had numerous doors open and opportunities fall in my lap unexpectedly. I've been healed of two incurable diseases; one malady and another is nearing its completion. All addressed in prayer with little to no medical intervention. I've had connections reconciled that seemed impossible to heal and more business and investment ideas than I can count.

I don't pray for prosperity or follow its proponents. It's His reward for my service coupled with divine impartation. He's given me the gifts and talents to succeed in an area that warrants great compensation and the stars bear witness.

That's the difference between milk and meat. As you grow in the latter you unlock higher truths and see subjects in a different light. You understand the things the devil corrupted that originated with the Lord. But they're rarely topics one seeks for themselves without a prompting from Him or a nugget He places in the spirit.

If you're struggling with sin you should be deepening your understanding of spiritual warfare. While the teaching is part of the process it relies on familiarity with the other to employ. You should be able to get a prayer through and see results for your troubles consistently. Otherwise you're likely to faint. When you're accustomed to pulling things down from heaven you know that it doesn't happen overnight. Some results arrive quicker than others and steadfastness is a must.

By the time I started doing this I'd experienced everything I mentioned. It's another rung on Jacob's ladder as is the rest. Master your position before leaping ahead. The more you unlock the more you encounter and He uses you differently. There will come a point when you pray that you'll know He'll answer and expect it. That's when you're ready for this. There's other teachings that accompany it He'll bring to mind.

If you become adept at spiritual warfare in its simplest state you'll alleviate a lot of problems and hear from Him consistently. Which will negate your question. He'll answer it before you write it. ;-)

Good luck.

~bella

That is very helpful answer, I wa gonna text u message, but I guess I can't find the way. My English is bad, but I did understood all u said

 

[germo155]

Hi there again,
I heard about this book in an interview whom I will assume was Henderson. It sounded a bit stretched. Similar to name and claim it preachers, you have to know the limitations. That limit is one's personal faith. How does one achieve the faith? You have to spend time in the word and get a rhema from God for many things. James is clear that you can't have what is to serve your own lusts. It has to be within the will of God. To know the will of God and have faith you have to hear from God.
I'll use Kenneth E. Hagin as an example. Not only did he write the Midas Touch, that warned that some took prosperity gospel too far, he also would pray, praise and confess scriptures for hours even days just to break though to receive a healing. So this man who was healed of a heart condition as a teenager, when another sickness came on him or his family still had to find faith in God for new circumstances. Believers with even less experience might take far longer and for those who just say a few things thinking God surely is just a genie or something, they often are disappointed.
From what little I know about the courts of heaven it too is trying to present itself as a shortcut to receiving from God. I think the perspective and idea is OK, but the focus of gaining from God is about a relationship, not just about declarations and formulas. We need the revelation ourselves and no book can fully give that to us, we have to hear from God.
I personally am OK with prosperity but wisdom is far better. Love too is more important than power but in reality we all just need balance in the things of God to optimize His will and ministry to others.
As to another of your comments you are right that sin can be a struggle for anyone. Sometimes deliverance can achieve success. Fasting too can work, as can reading the word and getting revelation and God's will on a matter. The main thing is to do what you can a look to God for help in every way.
I am sure Jesus knew about the courts of heaven, yet he sweated blood and learned obedience from the things that He suffered. He never sinned but he knows our temptations. We just have to find a way to flow with God more, to walk in the spirit and not in the flesh. Easier to say. than to do.
One idea that is scriptural too is to focus more on who you are in Christ, and less on sin. The bible says were law increases, sin increases all the more. So one has to see themselves as righteous. Though it is seemingly an impossible task, I actually loved the book, "A Plain Account of Christian Perfection" from John Wesley. I try to see that as a goal, rather than look at all my frailties. Nonetheless, we just have to move forward with what we have and try to soften our heart for good ground to plant more and more seed until we grow. May God bless everyone in their walk.

I think its ok to claim scriptures, we tend to claim our own wicked thoughts with wicked tongues, we can talk rather life or death with our tongue, I also think we should make God small, as I usually tend to do.
But I have heard lots testimony, deliverance. Do you belive if it was devil, that he would set people free like that? Like courts of heaven doctrine if it is working, then what to worry, if it brings holiness and deliverance? And ,a bears good fruit?

Thanks sir!

 

[germo155]

Hi there again,
I heard about this book in an interview whom I will assume was Henderson. It sounded a bit stretched. Similar to name and claim it preachers, you have to know the limitations. That limit is one's personal faith. How does one achieve the faith? You have to spend time in the word and get a rhema from God for many things. James is clear that you can't have what is to serve your own lusts. It has to be within the will of God. To know the will of God and have faith you have to hear from God.
I'll use Kenneth E. Hagin as an example. Not only did he write the Midas Touch, that warned that some took prosperity gospel too far, he also would pray, praise and confess scriptures for hours even days just to break though to receive a healing. So this man who was healed of a heart condition as a teenager, when another sickness came on him or his family still had to find faith in God for new circumstances. Believers with even less experience might take far longer and for those who just say a few things thinking God surely is just a genie or something, they often are disappointed.
From what little I know about the courts of heaven it too is trying to present itself as a shortcut to receiving from God. I think the perspective and idea is OK, but the focus of gaining from God is about a relationship, not just about declarations and formulas. We need the revelation ourselves and no book can fully give that to us, we have to hear from God.
I personally am OK with prosperity but wisdom is far better. Love too is more important than power but in reality we all just need balance in the things of God to optimize His will and ministry to others.
As to another of your comments you are right that sin can be a struggle for anyone. Sometimes deliverance can achieve success. Fasting too can work, as can reading the word and getting revelation and God's will on a matter. The main thing is to do what you can a look to God for help in every way.
I am sure Jesus knew about the courts of heaven, yet he sweated blood and learned obedience from the things that He suffered. He never sinned but he knows our temptations. We just have to find a way to flow with God more, to walk in the spirit and not in the flesh. Easier to say. than to do.
One idea that is scriptural too is to focus more on who you are in Christ, and less on sin. The bible says were law increases, sin increases all the more. So one has to see themselves as righteous. Though it is seemingly an impossible task, I actually loved the book, "A Plain Account of Christian Perfection" from John Wesley. I try to see that as a goal, rather than look at all my frailties. Nonetheless, we just have to move forward with what we have and try to soften our heart for good ground to plant more and more seed until we grow. May God bless everyone in their walk.

I agree, we need to focus on freedom, it is just when we mess up we feel bad, but we shouldn't be under condemnation (OT ways). Rather then freedom in Christ, new man. I love Dan mohler, who seem to be walking in that, and it really shows in him. He preaches true Gospel message. Truths sets us free, but there can be many bondages just that need to be dealt with at times differently.

 

[germo155]

The premise behind the courts of heaven is prayer.

Do not be anxious or worried about anything, but in everything [every circumstance and situation] by prayer and petition with thanksgiving, continue to make your [specific] requests known to God.

Why is it necessary to do it with prayer and petition? Isn't prayer enough? This should prompt the reader to explore the second principle in the verse.

Petition: A formal request or supplication, verbal or written; particularly, a written supplication from an inferior to a superior, either to a single person clothed with power, or to a legislative or other body, soliciting some favor, grant, right or mercy.

If you look up the word in Webster's 1828 dictionary you'll see the word used with legal proceedings in mind much like we petition the court today.

Satan is styled the "accuser of the brethren" (Revelation 12:10. Comp. Job 1:6; Zechariah 3:1). He was regarded by the Jews as the accuser of men before God, laying to their charge the violations of the law of which they were guilty, and demanding their punishment. The same Greek word, rendered "accuser," is found in John 8:10 (but omitted in the Revised Version); Acts 23:30, 35;24:8; 25:16, 18, in all of which places it is used of one who brings a charge against another.

ACCUSER
a-kuz'-er: This word, not found in the Old Testament, is the rendering of two Greek words:

(1) kategoros, that is, a prosecutor, or plaintiff in a lawsuit, or one who speaks in a derogatory way of another (Acts 23:30, 35; Acts 25:16, 18 Revelation 12:10);

(2) diabolos, meaning adversary or enemy. This word is rendered "accuser" in the King James Version and "slanderer" in the Revised Version (British and American) and the American Standard Revised Version (2 Timothy 3:3 Titus 2:3). According to the rabbinic teaching Satan, or the devil, was regarded as hostile to God and man, and that it was a part of his work to accuse the latter of disloyalty and sin before the tribunal of the former (see Job 1:6; Zechariah 3:1; Revelation 12:10).

You don't need to follow Henderson nor is it a teaching for one without a solid grounding in the word. Once that's in place you're able to chew the fat and spit out the bones with anything you hear. You make use of what's sound and discard the rest.

I'm not pentecostal or charismatic but I understand the premise behind the concept especially when viewed in legal terms. It's akin to the person who files a claim incessantly for every infraction. Which requires spiritual attentiveness and a willingness to meet them in prayer with a comparable ferocity.

We need to pray more because he never stops working. We need to be strategic in our supplication and petitions because he's equally so in his accusations. If we're wise like the serpent we'll see the same in our prayers and navigations in the flesh. We move offensively and defensively in the spirit realm.

My prayer life wasn't forged with the court of heaven in mind. But I understand it and utilize the strategies that allow me to employ what the Lord intended for my life on earth as it is in heaven. I've had numerous doors open and opportunities fall in my lap unexpectedly. I've been healed of two incurable diseases; one malady and another is nearing its completion. All addressed in prayer with little to no medical intervention. I've had connections reconciled that seemed impossible to heal and more business and investment ideas than I can count.

I don't pray for prosperity or follow its proponents. It's His reward for my service coupled with divine impartation. He's given me the gifts and talents to succeed in an area that warrants great compensation and the stars bear witness.

That's the difference between milk and meat. As you grow in the latter you unlock higher truths and see subjects in a different light. You understand the things the devil corrupted that originated with the Lord. But they're rarely topics one seeks for themselves without a prompting from Him or a nugget He places in the spirit.

If you're struggling with sin you should be deepening your understanding of spiritual warfare. While the teaching is part of the process it relies on familiarity with the other to employ. You should be able to get a prayer through and see results for your troubles consistently. Otherwise you're likely to faint. When you're accustomed to pulling things down from heaven you know that it doesn't happen overnight. Some results arrive quicker than others and steadfastness is a must.

By the time I started doing this I'd experienced everything I mentioned. It's another rung on Jacob's ladder as is the rest. Master your position before leaping ahead. The more you unlock the more you encounter and He uses you differently. There will come a point when you pray that you'll know He'll answer and expect it. That's when you're ready for this. There's other teachings that accompany it He'll bring to mind.

If you become adept at spiritual warfare in its simplest state you'll alleviate a lot of problems and hear from Him consistently. Which will negate your question. He'll answer it before you write it. ;-)

Good luck.

~bella

Did u understood you Bella, that you have done that courts of heaven prayers?

 

[bèlla]

Did u understood you Bella, that you have done that courts of heaven prayers?

Yes I have but I don't do it everyday. You employ it where the altar is lacking because you're fighting something stronger than you are spiritually. The goal isn't making it a crutch but strengthening your altar for greater effectiveness.

You have to know what that means and how to hear from the Lord consistently. That's the result of time in His presence and making Him a priority above your distractions. The hungrier you are the more He talks. He'll speak all day if you respond and interrupt your thoughts and jump in conversations too.

I stumbled on the subject after several years of working on myself and bloodline in prayer. It's a natural progression from that. Housekeeping is foremost. The more you get rid of the less you have to fight and you can head things off in yourself and others.

~bella

 

[germo155]

Yes I have but I don't do it everyday. You employ it where the altar is lacking because you're fighting something stronger than you are spiritually. The goal isn't making it a crutch but strengthening your altar for greater effectiveness.

You have to know what that means and how to hear from the Lord consistently. That's the result of time in His presence and making Him a priority above your distractions. The hungrier you are the more He talks. He'll speak all day if you respond and interrupt your thoughts and jump in conversations too.

I stumbled on the subject after several years of working on myself and bloodline in prayer. It's a natural progression from that. Housekeeping is foremost. The more you get rid of the less you have to fight and you can head things off in yourself and others.

~bella

So I should not approach it then, coz I need to be spiritually advanced? I have heard people just go and have results, and they work trough lot other issues, childhood memories, traumas etc and who have been in faith just little time, is there somewhere written that we can't as we aer babes in Christ? It's not who fight, it's Jesus right? What he has accomplished.
I try to spend time with lord, praising, woirshipping, awaiting on him, it's been few weeks. But I think we can still aproach him I hope in courts, that enemy down want us to have that freedom. I personally haven't believed in bloodline curses, and I belive Jesus have deal with them on cross, coz we have new bloodline from Jesus isn't ? I used to belive in the bloodline curse, it did bring lots bondage to me When I started to seek about curses and all other doctrines and realised later, iam free in Christ, set free, and if we belive that its good. But most still look outside of cross, am I wrong? If so, let me know,

God bless

 

[germo155]

Yes I have but I don't do it everyday. You employ it where the altar is lacking because you're fighting something stronger than you are spiritually. The goal isn't making it a crutch but strengthening your altar for greater effectiveness.

You have to know what that means and how to hear from the Lord consistently. That's the result of time in His presence and making Him a priority above your distractions. The hungrier you are the more He talks. He'll speak all day if you respond and interrupt your thoughts and jump in conversations too.

I stumbled on the subject after several years of working on myself and bloodline in prayer. It's a natural progression from that. Housekeeping is foremost. The more you get rid of the less you have to fight and you can head things off in yourself and others.

~bella

And I think oppression can also make ur minds not hear from him, even we sit with him in silence it seem hard to hear... and to know If that was my thoughts or he's voice.

Also can u take things specifically to courts? Like example lust etc?

 

[bèlla]

So I should not approach it then, coz I need to be spiritually advanced? I have heard people just go and have results, and they work trough lot other issues, childhood memories, traumas etc and who have been in faith just little time, is there somewhere written that we can't as we aer babes in Christ? It's not who fight, it's Jesus right? What he has accomplished.

I've shared my thoughts and you must decide for yourself. I don't make decisions based on other people's experiences. We're not in the same place and I have to be sure I can handle it. No one holds my hand or walks me through anything. I take the whole of the experience upon myself with the Lord in tow.

If you aren't willing to do the same you may want to wait. There's no one in the gap. If you desire support and for others to pray on your behalf you should put a request on the prayer wall.

This is a solitary endeavor that's predicated on faith. You don't ask for permission. You enter His gates with boldness and state your case.

Also can u take things specifically to courts? Like example lust etc?

As I previously stated the topic is related to spiritual warfare. You'd address the same things you would in prayer. If you're praying about lust and it hasn't broken there's a reason. It could be the result of susceptibility, open doors or a ruling spirit.

If deliverance is required some can do it themselves and others work with a minster. If you believe that's the case there's a chaplain you can speak with on the site. But we're not permitted to advise you on the subject.

~bella

 

[germo155]

I've shared my thoughts and you must decide for yourself. I don't make decisions based on other people's experiences. We're not in the same place and I have to be sure I can handle it. No one holds my hand or walks me through anything. I take the whole of the experience upon myself with the Lord in tow.

If you aren't willing to do the same you may want to wait. There's no one in the gap. If you desire support and for others to pray on your behalf you should put a request on the prayer wall.

This is a solitary endeavor that's predicated on faith. You don't ask for permission. You enter His gates with boldness and state your case.



As I previously stated the topic is related to spiritual warfare. You'd address the same things you would in prayer. If you're praying about lust and it hasn't broken there's a reason. It could be the result of susceptibility, open doors or a ruling spirit.

If deliverance is required some can do it themselves and others work with a minster. If you believe that's the case there's a chaplain you can speak with on the site. But we're not permitted to advise you on the subject.

~bella

Yeah, well I can't publicly talk about tome issues. But thanks

God bless

 

[Lost4words]

Stick with the teachings of Jesus.

I wouldnt go near any youtube preachers as they all preach different things. They are all swimming in different directions!

Concentrate on prayer. Asking God to guide you.

God bless and guide you my friend.