Question about Ablaze

[xkingsleyx]

I am an ELCA member and generally unfamiliar with the Ablaze! movement in the LCMS, but I am wondering if those of you who are LCMS could give me your thoughts on the campaign.

 

[C.F.W. Walther]

I am an ELCA member and generally unfamiliar with the Ablaze! movement in the LCMS, but I am wondering if those of you who are LCMS could give me your thoughts on the campaign.

Yea it's quantity instead of quality. Just like the reformed mega churches and I've seen what it's done to them. They are rampid with heresy because they bring people in with weak theology and emotions and soon you lose them because they are disallusioned becuse it's not what they thought and they have been fooled.

 

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[C.F.W. Walther]

Well gee---how'd that happen?

 

[seajoy]

Well gee---how'd that happen?

I dunno, but I think you made your point !

 

[cubanito]

Yea it's quantity instead of quality. Just like the reformed mega churches and I've seen what it's done to them. They are rampid with heresy because they bring people in with weak theology and emotions and soon you lose them because they are disallusioned becuse it's not what they thought and they have been fooled.

Would you mind repeating that? I didn't quite catch it the first five times.

JR

 

[QuiltAngel]

My husband did a number crunching and if I am remembering right, found out that it comes out to each member talking to 4 people each year during the program. Ahm, shouldn't we be doing that anyway?

 

[C.F.W. Walther]

Would you mind repeating that? I didn't quite catch it the first five times.

JR

Hey Are you a James Kennedy parishoner? That guys right on.

 

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[Breetai]

My husband did a number crunching and if I am remembering right, found out that it comes out to each member talking to 4 people each year during the program. Ahm, shouldn't we be doing that anyway?

Quantity over quality, huh Radidio? If you look at it this way, that isn't the case. But, I suspect that not everyone does look at it that way, and I'm beginning to think that you're right on in your assessment.

Of course, I have no idea what was in the minds of the higher ups when they came up with all of this. The more I get involved with the LCMS, the more I see how lost some of the top levels really are. It seems to be a bit of a mess of bickering up there, with nobody really knowing what's going on. Kind of lick a city slicker trying to impose his laws on a bunch of rednecks. It just isn't pretty.

In the end, it's up to every individual Christian (opps, I mean every individual LCMS Lutheran! Sorry higher ups... ) to decide how much quality goes into their witnessing. I can tell people what the gospel is all I want, but it can take years for it to really sink in and catch hold of some people... if it does at all. The mission field isn't a McDonalds drive-thru, as much as some 'city slickers' make it out to be.

 

[C.F.W. Walther]

In the end, it's up to every individual Christian (opps, I mean every individual LCMS Lutheran! Sorry higher ups... ) to decide how much quality goes into their witnessing. I can tell people what the gospel is all I want, but it can take years for it to really sink in and catch hold of some people... if it does at all. The mission field isn't a McDonalds drive-thru, as much as some 'city slickers' make it out to be.

Amen brother. I've never expected anyone on this forum to agree with me but you have come the closest. We may never see the fruits of witnessing and all we can do is plant the seeds as it says in the Bible.

 

[tschenks]

I've downloaded the Ablaze documents and it's completely about reporting how many non-believers you've contacted and how they responded. It eventually gets tallied up on a website total to justify the expenditure of 100 million dollars over the next twelve years.

We're already expected to follow the Great Commission. I just don't get it.

 

[filosofer]

Amen brother. I've never expected anyone on this forum to agree with me but you have come the closest. We may never see the fruits of witnessing and all we can do is plant the seeds as it says in the Bible.

Ah, come on. I have agreed with you.

In Christ's love,
filo

 

[Protoevangel]

Amen brother. I've never expected anyone on this forum to agree with me but you have come the closest. We may never see the fruits of witnessing and all we can do is plant the seeds as it says in the Bible.

What 'choo talkin' 'bout Rad? I've agreed with what you've said in this thread... Except for that James Kennedy comment, that is.

 

[C.F.W. Walther]

Ah, come on. I have agreed with you.

In Christ's love,
filo

You know how short us old peoples memory are. Yea you and Dan have agreeded----now I remember

Dan --- at least Kennedy is not Chick--ya gotta give me that