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<blockquote data-quote="SamanthaAnastasia" data-source="post: 76572153" data-attributes="member: 415650"><p>Apparently there is clergy beginning to state the grievances with Patriarch Kirill. </p><p><a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-orthodox-clerics-stop-war-ukrane/31730667.html" target="_blank">Orthodox Clerics Call For Stop To War In Ukraine In Rare Challenge To Russian Government</a></p><p></p><p>this is the translated copy:</p><p style="margin-left: 20px">APPEAL OF THE CLERGY OF THE RUSSIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH FOR RECONCILIATION AND AN END TO THE WAR</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"> We, priests and deacons of the Russian Orthodox Church, each on his own behalf, appeal to all on whom the fratricidal war in Ukraine depends for reconciliation and an immediate ceasefire.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"> We send this appeal after the Sunday of Last Judgment and on the eve of the Sunday of Forgiveness.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"> The Last Judgment awaits every man. No earthly authority, no doctors, no guards will protect us from this judgment. Concerned for the salvation of each person who considers himself a child of the Russian Orthodox Church, we do not wish him to appear before this judgment, bearing the heavy burden of motherly curses. We recall that the blood of Christ, shed by the Savior for the life of the world, will be received in the sacrament of communion by those who give murderous orders, not to life, but to eternal torment.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"> We grieve for the ordeal to which our brothers and sisters in Ukraine have been undeservedly subjected.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"> We recall that each person's life is a priceless and unique gift from God, and therefore we wish all soldiers, both Russian and Ukrainian, to return to their homes and families unharmed.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"> We bitterly think of the chasm that our children and grandchildren in Russia and Ukraine will have to overcome in order to begin to be friends again, to respect and love one another.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"> We respect man's divine freedom, and believe that the people of Ukraine should make their choice on their own, not at the point of view of automatic weapons, without pressure from the West or the East.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"> In anticipation of Forgiveness Sunday, we remind you that the gates of heaven will be opened to everyone, even those who have sinned heavily, if they ask for forgiveness from those whom they have offended, insulted, despised, or killed by their own hands or at their behest. There is no other way than forgiveness and mutual reconciliation.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"> "The voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the earth; and now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand," said God to Cain, who was jealous of his younger brother. Woe to any man who realizes that these words are addressed to him personally.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"> No nonviolent call for peace and an end to war should be forcibly rejected and considered as a violation of the law, for this is the divine commandment, "Blessed are the peacemakers.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"> We call upon all warring parties to dialogue, because there is no alternative to violence. Only the ability to listen to the other can give hope for a way out of the abyss into which our countries have been thrown in just a few days.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"> Let ourselves and all of us enter Lent in a spirit of faith, hope and love.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"> Stop the war.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">from here:<a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1yOGuXjdFQ1A3BQaEEQr744cwDzmSQ1qePaaBi4z6q3w/viewform?edit_requested=true" target="_blank">ОБРАЩЕНИЕ СВЯЩЕННОСЛУЖИТЕЛЕЙ РУССКОЙ ПРАВОСЛАВНОЙ ЦЕРКВИ С ПРИЗЫВОМ К ПРИМИРЕНИЮ И ПРЕКРАЩЕНИЮ ВОЙНЫ</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SamanthaAnastasia, post: 76572153, member: 415650"] Apparently there is clergy beginning to state the grievances with Patriarch Kirill. [URL='https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-orthodox-clerics-stop-war-ukrane/31730667.html']Orthodox Clerics Call For Stop To War In Ukraine In Rare Challenge To Russian Government[/URL] this is the translated copy: [INDENT]APPEAL OF THE CLERGY OF THE RUSSIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH FOR RECONCILIATION AND AN END TO THE WAR We, priests and deacons of the Russian Orthodox Church, each on his own behalf, appeal to all on whom the fratricidal war in Ukraine depends for reconciliation and an immediate ceasefire. We send this appeal after the Sunday of Last Judgment and on the eve of the Sunday of Forgiveness. The Last Judgment awaits every man. No earthly authority, no doctors, no guards will protect us from this judgment. Concerned for the salvation of each person who considers himself a child of the Russian Orthodox Church, we do not wish him to appear before this judgment, bearing the heavy burden of motherly curses. We recall that the blood of Christ, shed by the Savior for the life of the world, will be received in the sacrament of communion by those who give murderous orders, not to life, but to eternal torment. We grieve for the ordeal to which our brothers and sisters in Ukraine have been undeservedly subjected. We recall that each person's life is a priceless and unique gift from God, and therefore we wish all soldiers, both Russian and Ukrainian, to return to their homes and families unharmed. We bitterly think of the chasm that our children and grandchildren in Russia and Ukraine will have to overcome in order to begin to be friends again, to respect and love one another. We respect man's divine freedom, and believe that the people of Ukraine should make their choice on their own, not at the point of view of automatic weapons, without pressure from the West or the East. In anticipation of Forgiveness Sunday, we remind you that the gates of heaven will be opened to everyone, even those who have sinned heavily, if they ask for forgiveness from those whom they have offended, insulted, despised, or killed by their own hands or at their behest. There is no other way than forgiveness and mutual reconciliation. "The voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the earth; and now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand," said God to Cain, who was jealous of his younger brother. Woe to any man who realizes that these words are addressed to him personally. No nonviolent call for peace and an end to war should be forcibly rejected and considered as a violation of the law, for this is the divine commandment, "Blessed are the peacemakers. We call upon all warring parties to dialogue, because there is no alternative to violence. Only the ability to listen to the other can give hope for a way out of the abyss into which our countries have been thrown in just a few days. Let ourselves and all of us enter Lent in a spirit of faith, hope and love. Stop the war. from here:[URL='https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1yOGuXjdFQ1A3BQaEEQr744cwDzmSQ1qePaaBi4z6q3w/viewform?edit_requested=true']ОБРАЩЕНИЕ СВЯЩЕННОСЛУЖИТЕЛЕЙ РУССКОЙ ПРАВОСЛАВНОЙ ЦЕРКВИ С ПРИЗЫВОМ К ПРИМИРЕНИЮ И ПРЕКРАЩЕНИЮ ВОЙНЫ[/URL][/INDENT] [/QUOTE]
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