psychedelics

[maelstrom]

I know I'm not the only one who gained an interest in God after using psychedelic drugs and then eventually became a Christian.

So I'd just like to offer a word of encouragement to others who might be dealing with hallucinogens -- you don't need drugs for spirituality!

Psychedelics are often called "entheogens" because of their alleged ability to bring people into contact with God. The truth is that you don't have to ingest anything to be in contact with God--He talks to whoever listens, regardless of the chemical status of their brains. It's hard for me to accept that truth sometimes--I was a hardcore atheist before I started tripping on dissociatives and having what I deemed religious experiences; my abandonment of atheism was a direct result of drug use. Yet it wasn't drugs but rather the grace of God led me to read the New Testament and realize that Jesus is right. Although they opened my mind to the possibilities, and I first gained a respect for the Bible by reading Revelation while under the influence, the fact is that those drugs also made me very vulnerable to demonic influences. I was possessed at times, forsooth. Also, they made me feel like I had to take them to have religious experiences, which is obviously not the case. John didn't need drugs to have his Revelation (they hadn't even been discovered), so neither do I.

We already have a Helper, and it is the Holy Spirit. At first when I became a Christian I still thought of them as a spiritual aid, but as I learned to trust more and more in the Holy Spirit, my desire for psychedelic drugs diminished. The fact is that God is 100% capable of equipping you with everything you need, without you having to eat chemicals. God is more powerful than all the drugs put together!

Be sober! 1 Thessalonians 5:6

 

[ForeverInHisArms]

I know I'm not the only one who gained an interest in God after using psychedelic drugs and then eventually became a Christian.

So I'd just like to offer a word of encouragement to others who might be dealing with hallucinogens -- you don't need drugs for spirituality!

Psychedelics are often called "entheogens" because of their alleged ability to bring people into contact with God. The truth is that you don't have to ingest anything to be in contact with God--He talks to whoever listens, regardless of the chemical status of their brains. It's hard for me to accept that truth sometimes--I was a hardcore atheist before I started tripping on dissociatives and having what I deemed religious experiences; my abandonment of atheism was a direct result of drug use. Yet it wasn't drugs but rather the grace of God led me to read the New Testament and realize that Jesus is right. Although they opened my mind to the possibilities, and I first gained a respect for the Bible by reading Revelation while under the influence, the fact is that those drugs also made me very vulnerable to demonic influences. I was possessed at times, forsooth. Also, they made me feel like I had to take them to have religious experiences, which is obviously not the case. John didn't need drugs to have his Revelation (they hadn't even been discovered), so neither do I.

We already have a Helper, and it is the Holy Spirit. At first when I became a Christian I still thought of them as a spiritual aid, but as I learned to trust more and more in the Holy Spirit, my desire for psychedelic drugs diminished. The fact is that God is 100% capable of equipping you with everything you need, without you having to eat chemicals. God is more powerful than all the drugs put together!

Be sober! 1 Thessalonians 5:6

agreeing with you!!!

 

[restore]

Good post, it takes courage to leave pills and drugs

 

[VioletLady]

I know I'm not the only one who gained an interest in God after using psychedelic drugs and then eventually became a Christian.

So I'd just like to offer a word of encouragement to others who might be dealing with hallucinogens -- you don't need drugs for spirituality!

Psychedelics are often called "entheogens" because of their alleged ability to bring people into contact with God. The truth is that you don't have to ingest anything to be in contact with God--He talks to whoever listens, regardless of the chemical status of their brains. It's hard for me to accept that truth sometimes--I was a hardcore atheist before I started tripping on dissociatives and having what I deemed religious experiences; my abandonment of atheism was a direct result of drug use. Yet it wasn't drugs but rather the grace of God led me to read the New Testament and realize that Jesus is right. Although they opened my mind to the possibilities, and I first gained a respect for the Bible by reading Revelation while under the influence, the fact is that those drugs also made me very vulnerable to demonic influences. I was possessed at times, forsooth. Also, they made me feel like I had to take them to have religious experiences, which is obviously not the case. John didn't need drugs to have his Revelation (they hadn't even been discovered), so neither do I.

We already have a Helper, and it is the Holy Spirit. At first when I became a Christian I still thought of them as a spiritual aid, but as I learned to trust more and more in the Holy Spirit, my desire for psychedelic drugs diminished. The fact is that God is 100% capable of equipping you with everything you need, without you having to eat chemicals. God is more powerful than all the drugs put together!

Be sober! 1 Thessalonians 5:6

Absolutely!! Great point, well made!!

God bless xx

 

[wmc1982]

anyone done DMT?

 

[Paix]

I know I'm not the only one who gained an interest in God after using psychedelic drugs and then eventually became a Christian.

So I'd just like to offer a word of encouragement to others who might be dealing with hallucinogens -- you don't need drugs for spirituality!

Psychedelics are often called "entheogens" because of their alleged ability to bring people into contact with God. The truth is that you don't have to ingest anything to be in contact with God--He talks to whoever listens, regardless of the chemical status of their brains. It's hard for me to accept that truth sometimes--I was a hardcore atheist before I started tripping on dissociatives and having what I deemed religious experiences; my abandonment of atheism was a direct result of drug use. Yet it wasn't drugs but rather the grace of God led me to read the New Testament and realize that Jesus is right. Although they opened my mind to the possibilities, and I first gained a respect for the Bible by reading Revelation while under the influence, the fact is that those drugs also made me very vulnerable to demonic influences. I was possessed at times, forsooth. Also, they made me feel like I had to take them to have religious experiences, which is obviously not the case. John didn't need drugs to have his Revelation (they hadn't even been discovered), so neither do I.

We already have a Helper, and it is the Holy Spirit. At first when I became a Christian I still thought of them as a spiritual aid, but as I learned to trust more and more in the Holy Spirit, my desire for psychedelic drugs diminished. The fact is that God is 100% capable of equipping you with everything you need, without you having to eat chemicals. God is more powerful than all the drugs put together!

Be sober! 1 Thessalonians 5:6

Wow, I totally was started on the path to Jesus through a shroom trip! I thought i was so crazy.

I agree. You don't need to take drugs to have a spiritual experience. The peaceful feeling I have is way better than any E high or acid trip or whatever!!

I still struggle though. Some part of me is tempted because it will be fun. Although I have had really horrible experiences tripping, only to be helped by a Catholic youth group. God clearly has a sense of humour.

anyway peace brother! Awesome!

 

[wmc1982]

Wow, I totally was started on the path to Jesus through a shroom trip! I thought i was so crazy.

I agree. You don't need to take drugs to have a spiritual experience. The peaceful feeling I have is way better than any E high or acid trip or whatever!!

I still struggle though. Some part of me is tempted because it will be fun. Although I have had really horrible experiences tripping, only to be helped by a Catholic youth group. God clearly has a sense of humour.

anyway peace brother! Awesome!

I have had a very bad experience on shrooms. Near the end I had a voice telling me never to do them again and haven't since.

 

[vvincelli]

Bad stuff Brother, good to hear you're off them.

- V

 

[Kalimar]

Strange. I had a semi-deist phase in my teenage years that went away after an experiment in which I extracted LSA (ergine) from planting seeds turned sour.

Before setting off on this psychedelic trip, I was convinced there was a deterministic nature of the universe and that regardless of my physical or mental condition, I'd be guided by God. Well, after the experience, what little deistic faith I had was ultimately gone. I'd say it was devoured by ubiquitous uncertainty, solipsism, and probably most poignantly to this day, nihilism.

 

[Ariel]

Your post really puzzles me, Kalimar.

While I am convinced that God loves us, and loves you, I find it strange that you expected Him to guide you on a drug trip. God is a God who heals, not destroys, builds up, not tears down. He is not a God of destruction, but rather love, kindness, goodness and inviolate holiness.

There is an author of confusion and every ungodly thing, but that is not God. Jesus said that He came so that we might have life and that abundantly. By contrast, Jesus said that the thief comes to steal, kill and destroy, John 10:10. I think you had an experience with the thief--the destroyer, not God.

If you want to know God, ask Him. God says that He will be found by you when you search for Him with all your heart, Jeremiah 29:13. So ask.

 

[Bellicus]

I had my first real meeting with Jesus (the first time I thought positivity about Christianity) when I was smoking some good Moroccan hash. I continued to smoke a lot after I became a Christian, but eventually gave it up because it gives me a lot of anxiety. The last times I have smoked has been really paranoid. Like locking all doors, pulling the curtain over, whispering instead of talking, turning off the phone, turning off all the lights and pretend I am not home, and just sit and try not make a sound. God also gets so real when I'm smoking that it is almost like I want to hide under a table, and I usually try not to think about Christianity at all because it gets just too powerful for me. I know that God don't like that I smoke, so I don't anymore.

 

[tartanarmy]

I agree with you. Its not that God is endorsing the use of drugs. It was US not HIM. Our minds were closed to Him and the drug happened to open them up so we could hear Him. He was always there its just unfortunately for some of us we couldn't hear him.

Just a happy side-effect to a bad decision.

 

[TheMainException]

There is a guy whom I really respect who had his true conversion during an acid trip. His name is John Crowder and he is currently travelling the world preaching and getting wacked on Jesus. One way he evangelizes is through what he calls "Buzz evangelism" where he just offers a free buzz to whoever wants it, usually leading the people he touches to receive the holy spirit and believe in Christ as savior.

Me, I usually think about God a lot more when I'm on something, whether just alcohol or pot or whatever else. I've cut my drug use down quite considerably since last year when I was drinking all the time and doing pot and DXM and on my way towards LSA and shrooms. I'm still doing pot, drinking a lot (more just a social thing cuz I live in germany currently and that's just the way it is, I don't get drunk often), and doing the infrequent DXM trip, but it's not like it used to be at all. I can no longer find satisfaction in pot. I can't get high hardly. I'd have to do half a gram to get really high and even a single joint does near to nothing. I just get a little weird, but then nothing else. I wish I could get high, but I can't. I hadn't smoked for nearly six months over the summer and into this semester and then late last month, I went to the Netherlands and smoked some "high grade weed." I scoffed at those words after I spent three days trying to get truly stoned. Getting drunk is hardly interesting anymore and I really have little interest to get intoxicated on anything. This is all since I went to a conference with John Crowder and he baptized me with the Holy Spirit. I hadn't felt much, but it was enough to make me drop to my knees. It was just so amazing, like elecricity in my veins. Now I can't get high off of anything else even if I want to....God's high was just too good. My body and soul crave that.

 

[carmeneterror]

It took a bad trip on dxm for my boyfriend to turn to God. He told me he saw he and I burning in Hell and that he knew it all had to change. Prior to this he had several religious experiences on several psychedelics (including DMT). It was for this reason that he finally checked himself into Teen Challenge about four months ago.

Me, I rarely ever saw God when I was tripping. I used psychedelics and dissociatives because I wanted to -be- God. I wanted to create and I found that they allowed me an outlet for that. I also used them to ignore God, to continually turn Him aside.

It was only a little over a week ago that I nearly died after being on SSRIs and still deciding to do some dxm regardless of the threat of serotonin syndrome (which I ended up getting). I was incredibly sick for a couple days. I did "see" Satan during this trip but fear of him I don't think is what made me decide to stop it all.

I really don't understand what happened. All I know is that I was in such a bad way that I finally let my guard down. I thought I was going to die... and I wasn't afraid of actual death so much as I was that my life could be over without me having done the good I've always wanted to do.

So I prayed to God and I prayed that He would help me to finally accept Him and to stop ignoring Him for easy sin. It was hard. I was severely depressed each day for about five days but I prayed every day. Friends called me daily to come over and smoke and trip with them. I resisted but I hated myself for it.

Then it all clicked. I've been crying every day because I feel so lucky to have "seen the light." I don't think drugs help us to know God in a good way. I think sometimes they just help us to hit rock bottom so that we finally open our eyes.

 

[Zone]

Analytically using the fact that, all things are relative, therefore logic dictate(s) that, we're all not the same age, etc likewise it also applies to understanding, knowledge, etc.

To avoid present &, or future son & daughters of The Lord our God (i.e., את השילוש הקדוש) from allowing Satan to lie to / convince them that their past, present &, or future sin(s) disqualifies them from (laying-up for themselves treasures in heaven, etc via) serving "The One of many", the Trinity wanted me to impart the peace that He has given to me to His remnant, therefore to my brothers & sisters I say....

I am not ashamed that, I smoke Marijuana & cigars (i.e., Black & Mild) before & after I got born-again, in the beginning prior to me accepting Jesus Christ as my Lord & savior my life is what I would classify, or categorized as a "up & down" seesaw, meaning.... numerous time I tried to quit smoking Marijuana & cigarettes (i.e., Newport's) & for awhile it seemed to have worked, but since my flesh is weak it did not last & then I would feel just like some worthless sinner & for many years this was my existence, I continuously contemplated suicide, I tried it twice.

As a young man (or, extremist in all things) growing-up, Satan being cunning was subtly luring me into the occult (via the Satanic cartoons, other Satanic TV programs I'd watch & the Satanic video games I would play) & he wanted me to officially enlist into his army (via a pentagram, colored candles, incantations, etc) to do his will & this is where God found me.... at hell's front doorstep knocking, trying to get into hell's kitchen, happily about to sign-over my eternal life to Satan, but (of-course) God had His plans for me. Prior to my water / fire baptism Satan wanted me to not go through with it via reminded me that I am still sinning via smoke Marijuana, cigars (i.e., Black & Mild), etc simply to make me feel unworthy of God's salvation & it almost worked & Satan failed to get me into his kingdom.

But, then after accepting Jesus Christ as my Lord & savior, Satan wanted to make sure that God could not use me to bring anyone into God's kingdom he attacked me via the "up & down" seesaw again meaning.... one day I will feel saved & the next day I would not feel saved (due to the sins I was committing), so I got very upset & tired of the seesaw & I told God that, you've chosen the wrong man & to immediately put me back where you found me & the trinity said to me....

John 14:27 (KJV)
Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

Romans 14:22 (KJV)
Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.

....I have forgiven you from all of your (past, present & future) sins, I have chosen you before you were born, you were with me before the beginning, you promised me that you will serve me all the days of your life by bringing multitudes of people into my kingdom & without you allowing me to work within & through you billions of people can not & will not be brought into my kingdom, wherefore....

Matthew 11:29-30 (KJV)
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Hebrews 9:14 (KJV)
How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV)
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Note: The Trinity told me that, since I currently still reside within a house / temple (i.e., body) saturated with sin, I can not be sinless so do not even expect to be & that they've made provisions for me.... because spiritually I am equal &, or one with them, but my body currently is not.

As a born-again Christian, I use to fornicate & even since God one day removed that dead work from me I do not fornicate anymore, now nonetheless having not yet received my sinless / glorified body & being so far-way from my home (in the paradisaical presence of our Father & our Lord Jesus Christ) within the third dimension, personally I get homesick & currently I am still deal with the following sin(s):

• Depression.
• Suicidal thoughts.
• Marijuana.
• Cigars (i.e., Black & Mild).
• Pornography.
• profanity.

I personally & currently do not deal with the following sins:

• Alcohol
• Hatred.
• Racism.
• Unworthiness
• Unforgiveness.
• Pridefulness.
• Strife.

The Lord our God (naturally) intervened & prevented me from signing my eternal life over to Satan & instead of me being used as a mighty tool within Satan's hands to kill billions of people & going to hell, etc & I am now a mighty tool within God's hand serving, work for & within God, laboring within His vineyard, or harvest field (as tree plant by God) producing much fruit.... & currently (for over fourteen years) within this space Δ time dimensional reality, I can happily declare that....

I am equal, or one with &, or in the hands of God(s), that I am blessed via Him to be a blessing & blessed via Him to have brought over 1 • 10[sup]9[/sup] people into His kingdom & counting, thanks to "The One of many" I am still going strong. Elohim saved me & raptured me 1.87 • 10[sup]21[/sup] light-years = 1.09688515 • 10[sup]34[/sup] miles away from Earth to (d[sup]3[/sup]) the third dimension, or dimension(s) within Heaven into the paradisaical presence of our Father & our Lord Jesus Christ twice without even asking me once, educated me, comforted me, laugh with me, etc, etc.

The love from & of The Lord my God (i.e., את השילוש הקדוש). ​

 

[Agent X]

anyone done DMT?

I've smoked DMT and snorted a DMT containing plant called Yopo.

I have had a very bad experience on shrooms. Near the end I had a voice telling me never to do them again and haven't since.

I've had absolutely wonderful experiences with shrooms and I've had some tough times with shrooms.

I continued to smoke a lot after I became a Christian, but eventually gave it up because it gives me a lot of anxiety.

Same here except I haven't stopped (medical user) and it does the opposite for me.

 

[oncelost]

I am equal, or one with &, or in the hands of God(s), that I am blessed via Him to be a blessing & blessed via Him to have brought over 1 • 10[sup]9[/sup] people into His kingdom & counting, thanks to "The One of many" I am still going strong. Elohim saved me & raptured me 1.87 • 10[sup]21[/sup] light-years = 1.09688515 • 10[sup]34[/sup] miles away from Earth to (d[sup]3[/sup]) the third dimension, or dimension(s) within Heaven into the paradisaical presence of our Father & our Lord Jesus Christ twice without even asking me once, educated me, comforted me, laugh with me, etc, etc.

No offense, but could you put this in plain English.

 

[Nicodema]

It took a bad trip on dxm for my boyfriend to turn to God. He told me he saw he and I burning in Hell and that he knew it all had to change. Prior to this he had several religious experiences on several psychedelics (including DMT). It was for this reason that he finally checked himself into Teen Challenge about four months ago.

Me, I rarely ever saw God when I was tripping. I used psychedelics and dissociatives because I wanted to -be- God. I wanted to create and I found that they allowed me an outlet for that. I also used them to ignore God, to continually turn Him aside.

It was only a little over a week ago that I nearly died after being on SSRIs and still deciding to do some dxm regardless of the threat of serotonin syndrome (which I ended up getting). I was incredibly sick for a couple days. I did `see` Satan during this trip but fear of him I don\'t think is what made me decide to stop it all.

I really don\'t understand what happened. All I know is that I was in such a bad way that I finally let my guard down. I thought I was going to die... and I wasn\'t afraid of actual death so much as I was that my life could be over without me having done the good I\'ve always wanted to do.

So I prayed to God and I prayed that He would help me to finally accept Him and to stop ignoring Him for easy sin. It was hard. I was severely depressed each day for about five days but I prayed every day. Friends called me daily to come over and smoke and trip with them. I resisted but I hated myself for it.

Then it all clicked. I\'ve been crying every day because I feel so lucky to have `seen the light.` I don\'t think drugs help us to know God in a good way. I think sometimes they just help us to hit rock bottom so that we finally open our eyes.

This is a lovely testimony, thank you for sharing your experiences.

I used to be a drug abuser in my teens before Christ found me. The Holy Spirit first spoke to me at the age of 15 on a bad acid trip and actually helped me find my way back to reality from that horror. In my heart I knew this to be the voice of God but I did not know Him or the Way.

A few months later I took acid again and asked God, whoever happened to be the REAL God, to take my open state of mind on the drug and show me the truth so that I would always know it and never have to use again. See, I used to use psychedelics to show me the truth about life, to see through the illusions and things, but in reality they made me believe a number of grandiose delusions and kept me away from God. They are not physically addicting, but spiritually addicting, which in terms of the health of your soul is way more dangerous. Not to mention using psychedelics can very literally make you go insane -- they call it drug induced psychosis.

 

[Nicodema]

Sorry I forgot to finish my post above!

God answered my prayer and showed me the truth about Himself, Jesus Christ, salvation, and the war between good and evil going on in our minds and hearts and lives. I actually started preaching and prophesying to the other three people with me at the time, I got filled with His Spirit and even though I had taken a large dose of LSD it never affected me. I literally never started tripping. I felt jittery like I had drunk many cups of coffee but did not start TRIPPING at all. He kept it from kicking in, I believe, so He could fill me with His Spirit. I got rid of my old life, even started dressing differently. I wanted to be an entirely new creation in Him and have nothing to do with `self` anymore, all that old life seemed poisonous to me.

 

[GlennK]

that sounds intense.
i've always limited myself on drug use. never tripped or hallucinated at all, the most i've ever done is have 3 grams of shrooms and see the colors get vibrant. it was really cool at the time, i could see so much detail and the sky looked like a painting, but i wasn't tripping by any means. i've only done cigs, alcohol, lots of weed, and 3 grams of shrooms.

even though i've done shrooms and weed i still don't think i've ever been a drug user. even so, those are history.