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Because biology has got nothing to do with religion, as the fact that the majority of Christians accept it testifies.
All Atheists are Evolutionist
All Atheists are Liberals
Studies have shown that Liberalism leads to Anarchism.
These are the fruits of Evolution Theory. Historically it has shown that it is detrimental to the health, safety and existence of humanity and if not stopped leads to death and carnage
Wrong.
Wrong.
Citation?
Citation?
I have the feeling you just don't want to accept the Theory of Evolution as true because you have been heavily indoctrinated and are emotionaly invested in your religion. I really don't understand why you even debate this subject because you obviously don't know what you're talking about.
Thankyou Atheist from Germany.
Evolution Theory becomes the deityless god of the Atheist. It is solely based on ideology and has no implication to objective morality. So that it leads from Liberalism to anarchism and requires an autocratic dictorship to rule it like a virtuous machine. Stalins five year plans come to mind.
....sooooo, what of all the Christian Evolutionary Scientists, like Francis Collins, Ken Miller, even @sfs right here on this forum, are these Christians waging war against Christians?All I see friend, repeated failed attempt over and over again. It seems the protocols of the learnered Atheistist is not too good in the department of deception. Where is the motto by deception we shall wage war against the Christian.
So where did your first life form originate from? Out of thin air? Or are you going to be honest with yourself and admit from "dust"?What "observational data" supports this?
Huskies come from huskies, not dust.
You really are clutching at straws there, and these desperate, not well thought out comments, always make me wonder why you all need to do such things if you truly have a real defense.
Anyway, I've little doubt all flying creatures were called birds at a time when we had not gotten to creating all the classifications we have today. So, no, no error at all, they were birds at the time...makes perfectly logical sense to me anyway.
Must be a slow day for some here.
Sigh, have you not learned anything from watching life propagate? We will use dogs, since they clearly show you what you call evolution in a timeframe of a few hundred years instead of million if left to natural occurrences.
We will do this slowly, since repeatedly being shown the truth has failed to sink in.
Husky........mates........with........Husky........and.........produces........only........Husky. Mastiff........mates........with........Mastiff........and........produces........only........Mastif. Only........when........Husky........mates........with.......Mastiff........is........new.........forms........produced. The........Chinook.
Since over 100 breeds of dogs came about from wolf stock, those original wolf genes contained within them all the genetic code necessary for the creation of all the breeds we see today. Whether you want to admit to it or not, the Husky and Mastiff genome contains within them everything needed to create the Chinook. There was no mutation involved, no evolution.
Now, as to the Asian, you may like to pretend in fantasy land they came about from one evolving into more than one. But like the original wolf, the original human genome contained all the genetic code needed to create every race we see today. There was no mutation involved, no evolution. Learn the lesson dogs teach you and apply it.
Supposition and heresay. Have you seen with your own eyes these minimal mutations cause changes over millions of years? No.
Yes chihuahua's have emerged, from breeding, not mutations, not evolution. Again, what you see in dogs is what you believe evolution to be except in a small time frame due to man bringing them together instead of waiting for famine or geological changes to bring them together. And this is what you wont admit to yourself, even when you admit it is the same process except for timescale, they are all still the exact same species....... Learn the lesson dogs have taught you and apply it.
You have observed the emergence of new subspecies. That you incorrectly classify them as a new species is the error. Just as you refuse to accept those finches are the same species, even if they are interbreeding and producing fertile offspring right in front of the researchers noses. Even if the DNA told them they had always been interbreeding and so were never reproductively isolated and so never underwent speciation. You deny the truth even to yourself. Are you so lost that you cant even face the truth set before your eyes?Do you need people that lie to you to tell you what to think? Learn the lesson dogs have taught you and apply it. Think for yourself.
They know the truth........
Defining a species
"For example, these happy face spiders look different, but since they can interbreed, they are considered the same species: Theridion grallator."
But continue the lie for their own purposes which has nothing to do with science.
Nor does anyone on here that continues the lie when they know the truth, have anything to do with science.
Defining a speciesI'm not sure you even understand what you're saying, much less qualified to opine on their merits.
I think evangelical churches and Fox News provides the confusion factors.
Yes, all domesticated dogs are of one species.
What about foxes?
Jackals?
Are they their own Kind?
If so, why?
What was the plan to have so many so very similar 'kinds'?
Who is 'they'?
Can cheetahs interbreed with ocelots?
Yup. But they are descended from a single species. Sorry - Finch Kind.
Speaking of birds, is "kind" at the level of the Finch? Or are ALL birds of one Kind?
Can parrots breed with emus?
If not, why not?
Your bible classifies bats as birds. Can creationists admit that even THAT is in error?
What 'truth' are you referring to?
It is so cute, in an 'aw, look at that little feller' sort of way, that you seem to think that because subspecies exist that evolution is false and the creation tales of Hebrew tribesmen are therefore correct.
One of the distinguishing characteristics of even Darwin's 'primitive' version of the ToE was that he proposed a mechanism for change. Genetics provided the raw material (the discovery of the hereditary material, mutations, etc.) for selection to work on.
All you are offering is an assertion in which you co-opt evidence of variation and declare, in effect, 'Kinds gave off sub-kinds'.
How?
Where did the variation come from if they were 'created' AS a 'kind'?
WHAT IS A KIND???
Are there any living examples of created Kinds, and how can you tell?
Anything other than very, very misplaced and unwarranted declarations of victory?
And why, if genetic analysis should come to an arbitrary HALT when going from one Kind to another, does this not actually happen?
Many years ago, a creationist declared that if I could show a 'smooth gradation of genetic identity between 2 species' that she would be forced to reconsider her rejection of evolution. I did just that. Did she re-think her position? of course not - she made excuses.
Will you make excuses, too? Or will you provide evidence FOR your claims (as opposed to declarations of victory based on rejecting evidence for evolution)?
Oh - and BTW -
Copy-pasting your own previous posts that do not actually support your position is a rather sad way to engage in grown-up discussion.
Feel free to point that out in the scientific literature whenever you're ready. In the mean time, here's some light reading for everyone from your dizzyingly high moral perch...:As a few posters have indicted what the fruits of Evolution Theory are, as follows....
So that all roads of Evolution Theory lead to eugenics and mass culling of non performing humans, those underperforming useless eaters.
Evolution Theory historically and factually has proven to be the weapon of mass destruction against humanity.
Evolution Theory a historic road to genocide.
Oh, the irony of the egotist's blindness...
Leviticus 11:13-19New International Version (NIV)
13 “‘These are the birds you are to regard as unclean and not eat because they are unclean: the eagle,[a] the vulture, the black vulture, 14 the red kite, any kind of black kite, 15 any kind of raven, 16 the horned owl, the screech owl, the gull, any kind of hawk, 17 the little owl, the cormorant, the great owl, 18 the white owl, the desert owl, the osprey, 19 the stork, any kind of heron, the hoopoe and the bat."
Let the excuses and dodges and equivocations and diversions begin!
LOL!
I know atheists who don't accept evolution
and I know atheists who are not liberals.
Since you don't provide citations for your other two points I consider them conceded and hope you don't dishonestly lie again.
So where did your first life form originate from? Out of thin air? Or are you going to be honest with yourself and admit from "dust"?
Perhaps you should learn Hebrew before you comment on things you dont understand......
Strong's Hebrew: 5775. עוֹף (oph) -- flying creatures
oph: flying creatures
That some translate it as bird is not its original meaning. It is flying creatures of whatever Kind is being discussed.
That both Heron and bat are flying creatures is not in dispute. So exactly what is your problem besides not doing proper research and spouting things off the top of your head thinking your so smart yet in the end finding out you didnt even bother to research what the original language said?
Yes, let the excuses and doges begin as you all attempt to justify your lack of research.....
And the sad part is I even posted what the original Hebrew said in another post, so you should have been aware it may mean any Kind of flying, ummm, creature.....
Agreed, your continuously avoiding the facts of observation and spamming evolution wont make it true.Spamming the same wrong crap over and over will not make it true, he of the "allie" and "DNA letter"...
So we can't trust English translations of the bible? At least we can finally dispense with this inerrancy nonsense. Phew.
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