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<blockquote data-quote="grasping the after wind" data-source="post: 71813546" data-attributes="member: 256417"><p>Protesting is amoral. Morality is not central to the simple act of protesting. Why one protests may be a matter of one taking a moral stance and how one goes about protesting could be immoral(rioting for instance) but protest itself is not moral or immoral.</p><p></p><p>I have seen the opinion expressed that people ought not be fired for expressing their political opinion while they are at work. Though i wish it were so I cannot say I find that it has been the case in the past or that insistence that it must be the case is reasonable one. An employer has an interest in not offending the employer's customers. Like just about all companies outside the entertainment industry, if a McDonald's employee were to make a point of expressing an opinion to McDonald's customers that a large portion of Mcdonald's customers might not agree with that employee would be told to stop doing that on company time and on company property. They would say that while representing McDonald's one should keep one's opinions to oneself and serve the customer without proselytizing either for your religious or political POV. . In this particular case however, the NFL obviously does not feel that offending the part of their customer base that was offended by what they saw as disrespect for symbols that those customers hold sacred would negatively impact them as much as not supporting their employees would so the players are in no danger of being fired . Their employers(NFL owners) value them more than they do the customers that are offended. McDonald's and other service oriented and commodity oriented companies rarely have that sort of hierarchy of value placement.</p><p></p><p>I would be very interested to see what people's reactions would be if the protests in question were centered around other issues than is now the case. If they were say pro traditional marriage or pro life protests would the same people from each side of the political spectrum hold the same views about free speech and reverence for the anthem and flag and calling for people to be fired for having the wrong view or not respecting the symbols of the nation? From my perspective, judging by past events, there are many that would flip flop on both sides.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="grasping the after wind, post: 71813546, member: 256417"] Protesting is amoral. Morality is not central to the simple act of protesting. Why one protests may be a matter of one taking a moral stance and how one goes about protesting could be immoral(rioting for instance) but protest itself is not moral or immoral. I have seen the opinion expressed that people ought not be fired for expressing their political opinion while they are at work. Though i wish it were so I cannot say I find that it has been the case in the past or that insistence that it must be the case is reasonable one. An employer has an interest in not offending the employer's customers. Like just about all companies outside the entertainment industry, if a McDonald's employee were to make a point of expressing an opinion to McDonald's customers that a large portion of Mcdonald's customers might not agree with that employee would be told to stop doing that on company time and on company property. They would say that while representing McDonald's one should keep one's opinions to oneself and serve the customer without proselytizing either for your religious or political POV. . In this particular case however, the NFL obviously does not feel that offending the part of their customer base that was offended by what they saw as disrespect for symbols that those customers hold sacred would negatively impact them as much as not supporting their employees would so the players are in no danger of being fired . Their employers(NFL owners) value them more than they do the customers that are offended. McDonald's and other service oriented and commodity oriented companies rarely have that sort of hierarchy of value placement. I would be very interested to see what people's reactions would be if the protests in question were centered around other issues than is now the case. If they were say pro traditional marriage or pro life protests would the same people from each side of the political spectrum hold the same views about free speech and reverence for the anthem and flag and calling for people to be fired for having the wrong view or not respecting the symbols of the nation? From my perspective, judging by past events, there are many that would flip flop on both sides. [/QUOTE]
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