Prophetic Practice / Prophetic Edification Thread (3)

HoneyComb Son · Jul 15, 2008

Also like i dont mean to be rude..I know I am struggling.but like i am wondering so much was that him..cause like every time i seem to believe in what i see or hear.it ends up really hurting me inside causing anxiety and fear..even if what i see is like actually God with kind words..i dont understand

IMseekingHIM · Jul 15, 2008

Hi! This is my first post in these forums. I'm not sure what I'm looking for, but I feel confident God will help me. This seems like a close knit community,. So....heres my story:

I grew up in church, but as an adult haven't always followed God, or attended church. Sadly, it took a tragedy to bring me back to Him. I gave my life to God on my kitchen floor on April 17, 2008. The weeks that followed were full of happiness and bliss. I was truly a changed person. Praising God in church and on the streets like the other believers I had previously wished I was like. Then I'm not sure what happened. My mother-in-law, who is a pastors wife, knows nothing of my problems right now but once told me that once you are saved, Satan will throw things at you, or "jump on you" as she said it 10 times more. Maybe thats what the deal is, I don't know. But lately I've been absolutely miserable. I'm so unhappy with my life. My church, my husband, my sahm status....everything. I've become angry and hostile. I'm not myself at all. I'm not praying like I was, not reading my Bible like I was. My husband is not saved, and I'm really struggling with that. I want my family saved. I want to find a different church. But I'm having difficulty knowing whether or not God wants me in this church or not. I am very happy with the singing, the preaching....but its not a church family. I've been attending off and on for years and not one single person has introduced themselves to me. Its a HUGE church, has 4 services in the morning, with attendence in the 2000s total I'm sure. My neighbor goes to the same church and I've bumped into her a handful of times if that tells you anything. Anyway...last Sunday during the song service I started questioning myself...have I prayed right? has God even heard my prayers? I usually "feel" what I should do, and I KNOW when its God. But not this time. For months I've been praying about changing churches, but nothing is "coming thru". So I started doubting Sunday morning. Then, a lady spake in tongues and the interpretation was: I am the Shepard, I have not forsaken you. I love you. I have heard your cries, prayers have been answered. Changes are coming. The time is NOW to come to me, to accept me." And I feel that was for me, changes are coming. this isn't the first time this has happened, once before on a Wednesday night, same thing I was in song service not really into just telling myself this is not my church...I feel so alone here. I AM alone here. Then a lady spake in tongues and interpreted: "You are my child, and I love you. I have NOT forsaken you, I am walking with you. I love you." So each time I get to feeling this way, this happens and this is why I can't seem to leave...is this God telling me to stay? how do I know? I have been praying for my husbands salvation, and for my church situation. And I really, really need Gods help within myself...I seriously feel its because I don't feel like I can worship God like I want because I'm not in the church I want to be in, and I've just become depressed and withdrawn. But for some reason, I just can't bring myself to attend another church. I feel like, Doesn't help that my husband doesn't want to change churches.

I'm so sorry I got so long winded. When I got started, I just couldn't stop. I apologize too if its all over the place and a bit crazy....its been a rough day...whew a rough couple of weeks...

If anyone has any words of wisdom they would be greatly appreciated.

Moriah_Conquering_Wind · Jul 15, 2008

HoneyComb Son said:
Hello um.i dont know if this is the place..but I came here for support. or to ask for some help from God.

I see people post how they had visions or dreams and asked for interptations which is cool..but umm..I see many things in night..alot..i dont know how to word this..but i am asking for a word from God or something.. I see many things..that cause me to stumble and fall away..like I think i see God.but it ends up being satan pretending to be Him

umm..there are times when I think it is actually God..but i cannot tell:S...God knows this is really hurting me..I see things so often that it causes to be so confused and fear

ahh..i dont know how to say this..there is to much..asking for word..I just want to know the real God...but i keep getting confused on what I am seeing..i know i am not suppose to concentrate on just these..but on word.i have tried..but something in me that really hurts keeps coming up from what i see at night..if that makes sense

could use word,..thanks

it does not have a word to give right now but it wants to share that it has experienced exactly what you describe -- thinking something bes God but it turns out to be Satan. Moriah had this going on a couple years ago where every time it started praying and conversing with God it would follow along conversing with what it believed to be Him but then it bes like it turned a corner and NOPE, surprise, it bes not Him at all but soemthing evil masquerading and pretending to be Him to lead Moriah on so they could get moriah where they could hurt it bad. At times it thought maybe this really BES God, because what would happen would be this. It would start off praying and after praying awhile it felt AS IF it entered into the Holy Spirit inside and got close to God and then God -- or someone it thought bes God -- would start conversing back with it. And it would follow along engaging in the conversation and eventually the topic of the conversation always led to the same place -- where this "God" would be weeping compassionately over Moriah's soul and telling Moriah how very very much He loved her but how she could never be saved because she had gone too far in sin and now it bes too late for her and she cannot ever be brought to repentance. And because this thing kept crying and acting all broken up and sad over this the way Moriah could only imagine God would feel if He ever had to tell one of His precious children such a thing, this made it seem real. (If you knew Moriah and knew the depths to which it had fallen you would understand how realistic it would be to consider this a very real possiblity, too. And Moriah bes completely isolated from human species in that regard because if it ever confessed its deeper sins to human beings, frankly, no one would believe it. no one would believe that any seemingly ordinary creature could ever have really been where it has gone; they would think it bes making it up out of some sick twisted impulse or something. even some who themselves have walked in similar places would have a difficult time believing that moriah -- simple, ordinary, unremarkable moriah, and not another -- bes the one responsible for certain matters.... and there it must stop.)
Now it does not know whether your experiences consist of anything similar, but it felt it should share with you so that you would know you bes not alone in such things. you bes not the only one to wrestle with such darkness and confusion -- and it hopes and prays you find the truth which sets you free from this, and the relief you seek from this horrible torment.

icedtea · Jul 15, 2008

could use a word

HephzibahBenJudah · Jul 16, 2008

Psalms 23

Godslilgurlalways · Jul 16, 2008

Hello Everyone,

As the day went on I was feeling really discoruaged, but a brother in Christ fellow CF and Mod. Took the time to talk to me and really lifted me up I went from crying to pick up my bible and reading me. I wasn't excepting the conversation to end up going that way and lifting me up but I am so happy that it did, I am happy that God works in that way.

To IMseekingHIM:

Remember the PM I sent you, I do have actually something to share, something even better. That is know that God is going to bring you through this storm and he wouldn't give you more then you can bare. Remember there are times that Jesus felt the same way you do right now. But God brought him through it, (when he was in the garden the evening before he died on the cross). Sometimes he feels so far away but sometimes he really is close just seeing if will stand still and know that he is God. Know that he is God and he loves you, that I do know how you feel because I was there.

God Bless you all,

Destiny
Godslilgurlalways

surfingangel · Jul 16, 2008

I'm so excited, I have exciting news to share with you all!!
This last week i've had a horrible tooth ache and I told my Dad tonight that I might need to see a dentist and then he just prayed for all the pain to go away and it has gone. I have NO pain, God is sooo good .

CindyisHis · Jul 16, 2008

IMseekingHIM said:
Hi! This is my first post in these forums. I'm not sure what I'm looking for, but I feel confident God will help me. This seems like a close knit community,. So....heres my story:

I grew up in church, but as an adult haven't always followed God, or attended church. Sadly, it took a tragedy to bring me back to Him. I gave my life to God on my kitchen floor on April 17, 2008. The weeks that followed were full of happiness and bliss. I was truly a changed person. Praising God in church and on the streets like the other believers I had previously wished I was like. Then I'm not sure what happened. My mother-in-law, who is a pastors wife, knows nothing of my problems right now but once told me that once you are saved, Satan will throw things at you, or "jump on you" as she said it 10 times more. Maybe thats what the deal is, I don't know. But lately I've been absolutely miserable. I'm so unhappy with my life. My church, my husband, my sahm status....everything. I've become angry and hostile. I'm not myself at all. I'm not praying like I was, not reading my Bible like I was. My husband is not saved, and I'm really struggling with that. I want my family saved. I want to find a different church. But I'm having difficulty knowing whether or not God wants me in this church or not. I am very happy with the singing, the preaching....but its not a church family. I've been attending off and on for years and not one single person has introduced themselves to me. Its a HUGE church, has 4 services in the morning, with attendence in the 2000s total I'm sure. My neighbor goes to the same church and I've bumped into her a handful of times if that tells you anything. Anyway...last Sunday during the song service I started questioning myself...have I prayed right? has God even heard my prayers? I usually "feel" what I should do, and I KNOW when its God. But not this time. For months I've been praying about changing churches, but nothing is "coming thru". So I started doubting Sunday morning. Then, a lady spake in tongues and the interpretation was: I am the Shepard, I have not forsaken you. I love you. I have heard your cries, prayers have been answered. Changes are coming. The time is NOW to come to me, to accept me." And I feel that was for me, changes are coming. this isn't the first time this has happened, once before on a Wednesday night, same thing I was in song service not really into just telling myself this is not my church...I feel so alone here. I AM alone here. Then a lady spake in tongues and interpreted: "You are my child, and I love you. I have NOT forsaken you, I am walking with you. I love you." So each time I get to feeling this way, this happens and this is why I can't seem to leave...is this God telling me to stay? how do I know? I have been praying for my husbands salvation, and for my church situation. And I really, really need Gods help within myself...I seriously feel its because I don't feel like I can worship God like I want because I'm not in the church I want to be in, and I've just become depressed and withdrawn. But for some reason, I just can't bring myself to attend another church. I feel like, Doesn't help that my husband doesn't want to change churches.

I'm so sorry I got so long winded. When I got started, I just couldn't stop. I apologize too if its all over the place and a bit crazy....its been a rough day...whew a rough couple of weeks...

If anyone has any words of wisdom they would be greatly appreciated.

You need a hug!

I'm going to make this concise, for now.

Read your Bible. Don't put that down, ever. That's God's Word. Read Psalms and Proverbs every day for easy reading. It will feed your spirit. Read something from the New Testament every day. Pick a book, and stick with it. Mark what speaks to you, and go back over it. Write down the things that speak to you. Talk to the Lord about the things that speak to you.

Don't let feelings guide you. Feelings change too much. We walk by faith, not by sight. There are many times I don't "feel like" rejoicing, but the Word says to, so I do. Feelings follow. After awhile I "feel" different. We praise God whether things are good or whether things are bad. Things will straighten out. Put God first. Obey Him.

Find something to thank Him for. Thank Him for forgiving you all your sin. Thank Him for the mercy He has shown you. Thank Him for never leaving or forsaking you. Thank Him for the blue sky and the birds that sing - whatever comes to mind. It's hard to be grumpy or unhappy and be thankful at the same time.

These things will help keep your connection to God alive. You'll be able to hear Him better.

Whatever He puts on your heart to do, do it. Obey the written Word and obey the Spirit of God.

Ask Him to teach you and to lead You in His paths. He will. He delights to answer this prayer.

Hope that helps.

CindyisHis · Jul 16, 2008

surfingangel said:
I'm so excited, I have exciting news to share with you all!!
This last week i've had a horrible tooth ache and I told my Dad tonight that I might need to see a dentist and then he just prayed for all the pain to go away and it has gone. I have NO pain, God is sooo good .

Hallelujah!

Moriah_Conquering_Wind · Jul 16, 2008

CindyisHis said:
Don't let feelings guide you. Feelings change too much. We walk by faith, not by sight. There are many times I don't "feel like" rejoicing, but the Word says to, so I do. Feelings follow. After awhile I "feel" different. We praise God whether things are good or whether things are bad. Things will straighten out. Put God first. Obey Him.

Find something to thank Him for. Thank Him for forgiving you all your sin. Thank Him for the mercy He has shown you. Thank Him for never leaving or forsaking you. Thank Him for the blue sky and the birds that sing - whatever comes to mind. It's hard to be grumpy or unhappy and be thankful at the same time.

These things will help keep your connection to God alive. You'll be able to hear Him better.

Moriah used to think that just bes nonsense -- how can you get anything good out of "being a phony" but now its mind changed about that. IF you can manage to do what she says above it really does help. Of course you have to be in control to do it. No way to make that happen when They takes it over--but it finds now that when it has able to move mind that way, those things really do work. So the answer bes you just do it WHEN you can, remind yourself later when you can't, and don't waste time on guilt or self-recriminations in between... just keep reaching out & up to HIM.

Gozu · Jul 16, 2008

Moriah_Conquering_Wind said:
Moriah used to think that just bes nonsense -- how can you get anything good out of "being a phony" but now its mind changed about that. IF you can manage to do what she says above it really does help. Of course you have to be in control to do it. No way to make that happen when They takes it over--but it finds now that when it has able to move mind that way, those things really do work. So the answer bes you just do it WHEN you can, remind yourself later when you can't, and don't waste time on guilt or self-recriminations in between... just keep reaching out & up to HIM.

My mind is scarred like it was pushed through a million razor wires. I have been in that place of low impulse/high impulse hum. I've seen the massive winged abominations moving through the air in such a dense atmosphere that the mortal body would be crushed by the intense pressure and the blood and flesh to settle on the sand to be gleaned by some insectile sentinel that the grease from the fat of flesh seems to keep polished; the shiny black carapace, making the splinterings of whatever light seems to come into this place glitter like charred armour.

Moriah_Conquering_Wind · Jul 16, 2008

Gozu said:
My mind is scarred like it was pushed through a million razor wires. I have been in that place of low impulse/high impulse hum. I've seen the massive winged abominations moving through the air in such a dense atmosphere that the mortal body would be crushed by the intense pressure and the blood and flesh to settle on the sand to be gleaned by some insectile sentinel that the grease from the fat of flesh seems to keep polished; the shiny black carapace, making the splinterings of whatever light seems to come into this place glitter like charred armour.

Similar here (not same, similar).
But one half hour completely possessed by the Spirit of God and it all becomes meaningless dust.

whatfor · Jul 16, 2008

just dropped in to say hello

icedtea · Jul 16, 2008

hey there.
Woot-we got our icons back!

whatfor · Jul 16, 2008

Hi there Rose

surfingangel · Jul 17, 2008

Hello everyone

yashualover · Jul 17, 2008

IMseekingHIM said:
Hi! This is my first post in these forums. I'm not sure what I'm looking for, but I feel confident God will help me. This seems like a close knit community,. So....heres my story:

I grew up in church, but as an adult haven't always followed God, or attended church. Sadly, it took a tragedy to bring me back to Him. I gave my life to God on my kitchen floor on April 17, 2008. The weeks that followed were full of happiness and bliss. I was truly a changed person. Praising God in church and on the streets like the other believers I had previously wished I was like. Then I'm not sure what happened. My mother-in-law, who is a pastors wife, knows nothing of my problems right now but once told me that once you are saved, Satan will throw things at you, or "jump on you" as she said it 10 times more. Maybe thats what the deal is, I don't know. But lately I've been absolutely miserable. I'm so unhappy with my life. My church, my husband, my sahm status....everything. I've become angry and hostile. I'm not myself at all. I'm not praying like I was, not reading my Bible like I was. My husband is not saved, and I'm really struggling with that. I want my family saved. I want to find a different church. But I'm having difficulty knowing whether or not God wants me in this church or not. I am very happy with the singing, the preaching....but its not a church family. I've been attending off and on for years and not one single person has introduced themselves to me. Its a HUGE church, has 4 services in the morning, with attendence in the 2000s total I'm sure. My neighbor goes to the same church and I've bumped into her a handful of times if that tells you anything. Anyway...last Sunday during the song service I started questioning myself...have I prayed right? has God even heard my prayers? I usually "feel" what I should do, and I KNOW when its God. But not this time. For months I've been praying about changing churches, but nothing is "coming thru". So I started doubting Sunday morning. Then, a lady spake in tongues and the interpretation was: I am the Shepard, I have not forsaken you. I love you. I have heard your cries, prayers have been answered. Changes are coming. The time is NOW to come to me, to accept me." And I feel that was for me, changes are coming. this isn't the first time this has happened, once before on a Wednesday night, same thing I was in song service not really into just telling myself this is not my church...I feel so alone here. I AM alone here. Then a lady spake in tongues and interpreted: "You are my child, and I love you. I have NOT forsaken you, I am walking with you. I love you." So each time I get to feeling this way, this happens and this is why I can't seem to leave...is this God telling me to stay? how do I know? I have been praying for my husbands salvation, and for my church situation. And I really, really need Gods help within myself...I seriously feel its because I don't feel like I can worship God like I want because I'm not in the church I want to be in, and I've just become depressed and withdrawn. But for some reason, I just can't bring myself to attend another church. I feel like, Doesn't help that my husband doesn't want to change churches.

I'm so sorry I got so long winded. When I got started, I just couldn't stop. I apologize too if its all over the place and a bit crazy....its been a rough day...whew a rough couple of weeks...

If anyone has any words of wisdom they would be greatly appreciated.

Greetings IMseeking,

For a deeper understanding of God please see link below, this understanding will also give you disernment to enable you to choose a church where you will be spiritually fed.

http://www.monergism.com/

Moriah_Conquering_Wind · Jul 17, 2008

Never heard of "monergism". What bes that?
Sure do like this though -- amen! Hallelujah, TRUTH!!

IMO this would be the plague spot of modern Christianity, all this Ayn Rand-esque rugged individualism do-it-yourself crap, demanding we perform what only Christ can manifest in us when we walk in the Spirit. If we could do it ourselves we would not have needed a saviour in the first place. Salvation in Christ involves supernatural transformation from on high; it is not some euphemism or "Dumbo's magic feather" trip (i.e. a placebo ruse to make us aware we could do it on our own all along) and frankly it enrages Moriah to see those washed in the Blood speak like so many Nebuchadnezzars courting lycanthropic chastisement. (Daniel 4).

Instead of focusing on human so-called "will power' the believer should be keenly and painfully aware of his/her own helplessness and entirely, confidently focused on HIS power.

Moriah_Conquering_Wind · Jul 17, 2008

Monergism:
The Century Dictionary defines it as follows:
"In theology, the doctrine that the Holy Spirit is the only efficient agent in regeneration - that the human will possesses no inclination to holiness until regenerated, and therefore cannot cooperate in regeneration."

http://www.monergism.com/what_is_monergism.php

WOW!!! All this time this bes Moriah's belief too and it never even knew it had a specific name. Monergism!! Moriah bes a Monergist!!! YES!!!!!

hannahfievel · Jul 17, 2008

Moriah_Conquering_Wind said:
Monergism:
The Century Dictionary defines it as follows:
"In theology, the doctrine that the Holy Spirit is the only efficient agent in regeneration - that the human will possesses no inclination to holiness until regenerated, and therefore cannot cooperate in regeneration."

http://www.monergism.com/what_is_monergism.php

WOW!!! All this time this bes Moriah's belief too and it never even knew it had a specific name. Monergism!! Moriah bes a Monergist!!! YES!!!!!

Wow...who knew? I guess I am a monergist too! Now..Moriah...I "have" to read the link you gave us! Cuz I totally believe this too! Thanks! your friend and sister in Christ, hannah

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